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Richard Shann | 25 May 2012 08:54
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Old design notes

The old design notes on denemo.org are unavailable - I want to look up
the notes about conditional directives but the link
http://www.old.denemo.org/index.php?title=Roadmap

which should take me there is disabled :(

I think conditional directives would be very useful in the context of
Score Layout View which I am working on. Different score layouts
(full-score, solo part, etc) require different page breaks. Being able
to label a page break directive as conditional for a certain Score
Layout would help here. It could also be used to allow, for example, the
use of Tenor clef in a bass line when intended for Cello while keeping
it in Bass or using Treble for a piano part (pianists are not fond of
C-clefs!). Or to place octave transposition marks in for a score layout
intended for treble recorder - one file with several score layouts
attached can then be used to print out parts for a variety of
instruments while still keeping the ability to edit the music. This
feature would go beyond what can be done in LilyPond - there is no way
to write a (externally) conditional page break in LilyPond as far as I
know.
However, I can't access the original notes on this topic ...

Richard
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Jeremiah Benham | 25 May 2012 17:15

Re: Old design notes

On 05/25/2012 01:54 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> The old design notes on denemo.org are unavailable - I want to look up
> the notes about conditional directives but the link
> http://www.old.denemo.org/index.php?title=Roadmap
>
> which should take me there is disabled :(

Unfortunately it died with an old version of our website. I am not sure 
how to retrieve it. It would take too much time to try and resurrect 
this. This was linked to a website Nils built using mediawiki. We are 
currently using tikiwiki now. The old mediawiki is broken and I don't 
know how to fix it. It took me enough time just trying to learn tikiwiki.

Jeremiah

>
> I think conditional directives would be very useful in the context of
> Score Layout View which I am working on. Different score layouts
> (full-score, solo part, etc) require different page breaks. Being able
> to label a page break directive as conditional for a certain Score
> Layout would help here. It could also be used to allow, for example, the
> use of Tenor clef in a bass line when intended for Cello while keeping
> it in Bass or using Treble for a piano part (pianists are not fond of
> C-clefs!). Or to place octave transposition marks in for a score layout
> intended for treble recorder - one file with several score layouts
> attached can then be used to print out parts for a variety of
> instruments while still keeping the ability to edit the music. This
> feature would go beyond what can be done in LilyPond - there is no way
> to write a (externally) conditional page break in LilyPond as far as I
> know.
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Richard Shann | 25 May 2012 18:33
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Re: Old design notes

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:15 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> On 05/25/2012 01:54 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> > The old design notes on denemo.org are unavailable - I want to look up
> > the notes about conditional directives but the link
> > http://www.old.denemo.org/index.php?title=Roadmap
> >
> > which should take me there is disabled :(
> 
> Unfortunately it died with an old version of our website.

No, it survived that ok, I put a link to it on the new design page when
Nils pointed out that it was still available.
What has happened is that the anti-us-legislation protest thing disabled
it - I think you put that in, so I do hope you can take it out again, as
there was a fair amount of ideas on that page. At present it just gives
the stop sopa thing...

Richard

>  I am not sure 
> how to retrieve it. It would take too much time to try and resurrect 
> this. This was linked to a website Nils built using mediawiki. We are 
> currently using tikiwiki now. The old mediawiki is broken and I don't 
> know how to fix it. It took me enough time just trying to learn tikiwiki.
> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> >
> > I think conditional directives would be very useful in the context of
> > Score Layout View which I am working on. Different score layouts
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Jeremiah Benham | 29 May 2012 06:10

Re: Old design notes

On 05/25/2012 11:33 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:15 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
>> On 05/25/2012 01:54 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
>>> The old design notes on denemo.org are unavailable - I want to look up
>>> the notes about conditional directives but the link
>>> http://www.old.denemo.org/index.php?title=Roadmap

I fixed this link. It was easier that I thought it would be.

Jeremiah

>>>
>>> which should take me there is disabled :(
>> Unfortunately it died with an old version of our website.
> No, it survived that ok, I put a link to it on the new design page when
> Nils pointed out that it was still available.
> What has happened is that the anti-us-legislation protest thing disabled
> it - I think you put that in, so I do hope you can take it out again, as
> there was a fair amount of ideas on that page. At present it just gives
> the stop sopa thing...
>
> Richard
>
>
>>   I am not sure
>> how to retrieve it. It would take too much time to try and resurrect
>> this. This was linked to a website Nils built using mediawiki. We are
>> currently using tikiwiki now. The old mediawiki is broken and I don't
>> know how to fix it. It took me enough time just trying to learn tikiwiki.
>>
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Richard Shann | 29 May 2012 10:07
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Re: Old design notes

On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 23:10 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> On 05/25/2012 11:33 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 10:15 -0500, Jeremiah Benham wrote:
> >> On 05/25/2012 01:54 AM, Richard Shann wrote:
> >>> The old design notes on denemo.org are unavailable - I want to look up
> >>> the notes about conditional directives but the link
> >>> http://www.old.denemo.org/index.php?title=Roadmap
> 
> I fixed this link. It was easier that I thought it would be.
Thanks very much - I have moved one article over to the new website now
to reduce the danger. I don't see the notes on conditional directives,
perhaps they never made it there...

Richard

> 
> Jeremiah
> 
> >>>
> >>> which should take me there is disabled :(
> >> Unfortunately it died with an old version of our website.
> > No, it survived that ok, I put a link to it on the new design page when
> > Nils pointed out that it was still available.
> > What has happened is that the anti-us-legislation protest thing disabled
> > it - I think you put that in, so I do hope you can take it out again, as
> > there was a fair amount of ideas on that page. At present it just gives
> > the stop sopa thing...
> >
> > Richard
> >
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