Re: [mb-users] CodeOfConduct

I'm kind of convinced that blocking the account may be the right thing 
to do,
however, one thing left.

The wikipedia analogy also shows one missing feature in musicbrainz,
there is no easy way to revert an edit.
With wikipedia you can revert an edit with one click,
in musicbrainz, once an edit is accepted, we need to do a little bit 
more work.
This may make it better for musicbrainz to just keep track of these clowns.

Bram

Vincent POULAIN schreef:
> To me you're absolutely right, a real contributor is not supposed to need an expandable e-mail account,
and Yahoo, GMail, etc are fine should someone want to have a dedicated account for MB. 
>
> But such accounts are longer to create, probably enough to discourage a vandal to recreate one each time
his/her MB account is blocked and its pertaining address banned.
>  
> Vincent
>
>
> --- En date de : Mar 30.9.08, Oliver Charles <oliver.g.charles <at> googlemail.com> a écrit :
>
>   
>> De: Oliver Charles <oliver.g.charles <at> googlemail.com>
>> Objet: Re: [mb-users] CodeOfConduct
>> À: shlublu <at> yahoo.fr, "General discussions about MusicBrainz" <musicbrainz-users <at> lists.musicbrainz.org>
>> Date: Mardi 30 Septembre 2008, 17h10
>> Well, if we block the account and refuse signups from the
>> same email
>> address, this would mean he has to create 2 accounts (one
>> for MB and
>> one for email).
>>
>> I know there are services like Mailinator and other
>> disposable email
>> address systems, but should we really be allowing signups
>> from these
>> address anyway? We require a valid email address to trace
>> edits back
>> to a user and communicate with them, and I sure don't
>> know anyone who
>> uses a disposable account as their primary email address ;)
>>
>> Just my 2 cents, I understand how awkward those proposals
>> are though,
>> but it would be one more deterrent
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Vincent POULAIN
>> <shlublu <at> yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>     
>>>> It doesn't work like this.
>>>>         
>>> I am not saying this is an absolutely efficient
>>>       
>> solution - there's none. But to me this is the minimum
>> we should do.
>>     
>>> I refer again to Wikipedia which is attacked by
>>>       
>> vandals all day long. They do have some experience of it.
>>     
>>> When a vandal uses an account, they do block it. Of
>>>       
>> course the guy creates another account (or several) and
>> sometimes does his vandalism stuff with no account
>> (depending of the country WP allows "IP"
>> contributors or not).
>>     
>>> The only way to prevent that is to do what they do: to
>>>       
>> have an army of users and bots that spend their time to
>> check the latest changes and revert the vandal's edits.
>>     
>>> And when personal information is disclosed by a
>>>       
>> vandal, the admins clean the edits history list for this to
>> not to appear any longer.
>>     
>>> There's no other way on a system that allows
>>>       
>> anyone to contribute with IPs or nicknames.
>>     
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>> --- En date de : Mar 30.9.08, Lukáš Lalinský
>>>       
>> <lalinsky <at> gmail.com> a écrit :
>>     
>>>> De: Lukáš Lalinský <lalinsky <at> gmail.com>
>>>> Objet: Re: [mb-users] CodeOfConduct
>>>> À: "General discussions about
>>>>         
>> MusicBrainz"
>> <musicbrainz-users <at> lists.musicbrainz.org>
>>     
>>>> Date: Mardi 30 Septembre 2008, 16h32
>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Vincent POULAIN
>>>> <shlublu <at> yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Looks like.
>>>>>
>>>>> This account should definitely be blocked.
>>>>>           
>>>> If you block the account, he will create two more
>>>>         
>> accounts
>>     
>>>> and do even
>>>> more stupid things. It doesn't work like this.
>>>>
>>>> Lukas
>>>>
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