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Tracey Hytry | 1 Jan 2007 04:44

Re: fc5 or fc6, i386 or x86_64

FC5 seems to be quite stable and most of the audio apps are built for it.  It's 32 bit all the way, but it works
quite well.  As long as fedora keeps updates for fc5 it should keep working on newer hardware(computer and
plugins).  After reading about what happened to fedora legacy and fc4 I wonder how long support for fc5 will
be around though.

FC6 can be installed x86_64 and there are quite a number of 64 bite apps for it, but as Fernando stated, there
is no low latency kernel for it.  It's the newest fedora and should be around for a while.  Also, I suspect
we'll see more new apps there before they get backported to fc5.

My experience is that fedora-5 and the planet apps just work!  Easy to install and configure.  My experience
with fedora-6 now that I've been playing with it the past month is that it does work, but not very well for
audio yet.

Fernando:  Are there i386 planet apps put together for fc6?

If there are i386 for fc6 I would suggest looking into using fc6, only because you won't have to upgrade to the
latest fedora next year.  On the other hand, using a real 64 bit system is kind of nice.  Decisions, decisions...

As an aside, I was looking through the config file for Ingo's newest real time kernel and it has many new
things that I think would have helped when we installed linux(native, not parallels) on that macbook
pro(dual core).  In the end gentoo 64 bit ended up on it in a round-about way, but we were in rough/uncharted waters.

The other thing about Ingo's newest kernel is that I tried to test it on the fc6 install and haven't been able
to get jack to work with it.  But that was late at night and I still need to do some more tweaking.

Tracey.
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Fernando Lopez-Lezcano | 2 Jan 2007 01:06
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Re: fc5 or fc6, i386 or x86_64

On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:44 -0800, Tracey Hytry wrote:
> Fernando:  Are there i386 planet apps put together for fc6?

Yes, quite a few... but never enough :-) 
Surf here for packages available:
i386:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/6/i386/repodata/
x86_64:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/6/x86_64/repodata/

> If there are i386 for fc6 I would suggest looking into using fc6, only 
> because you won't have to upgrade to the latest fedora next year.  On 
> the other hand, using a real 64 bit system is kind of nice.  Decisions, 
> decisions...
> 
> As an aside, I was looking through the config file for Ingo's newest 
> real time kernel and it has many new things that I think would have 
> helped when we installed linux(native, not parallels) on that macbook 
> pro(dual core).  In the end gentoo 64 bit ended up on it in a round-about 
> way, but we were in rough/uncharted waters.
> 
> The other thing about Ingo's newest kernel is that I tried to test it 
> on the fc6 install and haven't been able to get jack to work with it.  
> But that was late at night and I still need to do some more tweaking.

Hmmm, you may need to edit /etc/security/limits.conf, I used to have a
custom pam on fc5 but I have not yet released that. Otherwise you won't
be able to run realtime as a non-root user. 

See the hack at the end of:
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Tracey Hytry | 2 Jan 2007 01:28

Re: fc5 or fc6, i386 or x86_64

> Hmmm, you may need to edit /etc/security/limits.conf, I used to have a
> custom pam on fc5 but I have not yet released that. Otherwise you won't
> be able to run realtime as a non-root user. 
> 
> See the hack at the end of:
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrmanews/2006-November/000047.html

I haven't gotten back to fc6 since the other night when did the test.  I have a bunch of plants that have grown
into a jungle that I'm currently attending to.

Yes, the above was where I was heading at the time.  I had already modified limits.conf, but used the more
secure setup that I use on fc5(using a special group for audio).  I think I may have to start with "*" and
backtrack from there if it works.  I'll try to get back to what I did if it works.

On fc5 here I got a new Ingo-rt kernel and modified rtirq to get ready to test the new kernel, but it got too late
to shut everything down and reboot(which I dislike doing).  Maybe when I get back from my next jungle cleanup.

Tracey.
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Edward Lilley | 2 Jan 2007 23:27
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Re: fc5 or fc6, i386 or x86_64

My advice would be to go for x86_64 and FC6, as long as you don't want instant results; all the packages will probably be built for x86_64 eventually. FC5 i386 packages  should work on FC6 i386 and x86_64 pretty much flawlessly. FC6 i386 packages will also work on the x86_64 FC6, you just need to edit your repos.d to point to x86_64.

On 02/01/07, Tracey Hytry <shakti <at> bayarea.net> wrote:
> Hmmm, you may need to edit /etc/security/limits.conf, I used to have a
> custom pam on fc5 but I have not yet released that. Otherwise you won't
> be able to run realtime as a non-root user.
>
> See the hack at the end of:
> http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/pipermail/planetccrmanews/2006-November/000047.html

I haven't gotten back to fc6 since the other night when did the test.  I have a bunch of plants that have grown into a jungle that I'm currently attending to.

Yes, the above was where I was heading at the time.  I had already modified limits.conf, but used the more secure setup that I use on fc5(using a special group for audio).  I think I may have to start with "*" and backtrack from there if it works.  I'll try to get back to what I did if it works.

On fc5 here I got a new Ingo-rt kernel and modified rtirq to get ready to test the new kernel, but it got too late to shut everything down and reboot(which I dislike doing).  Maybe when I get back from my next jungle cleanup.

Tracey.

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