Alan Grimes | 4 Nov 2009 06:52
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Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

The maintainers of Gentoo released a flash traffic ultimatum the other
day that they were going to be removing KDE3 Real Soon Now. Naturally, I
gave them a good and proper flaming with an arm's length list of
packages for which there are no usable KDE4 equivalents.

However, the problem remains.

I'm too stupid to figure out how to pull the kde4 git archive mentioned
the other day, I really do need help! =(

Hopefully I'll be able to load it and see what it implements, what it
doesn't, and how far off the rails the guy who wrote it was... =(

Sorry...

I don't mean to be insulting just there but I've been seeing a multitude
of spectacularly bad design decisions in a great many packages that I
require daily. I am suffering from diminished features and have had to
spend many hours keeping my system near it's normal bare-minimum
operating level. My continued use of Linux is becoming untenable!!! It's
not much fun knowing you have 4.8 billion instructions per second at
your command with a memory bandwidth better than half a gigabyte per
second when your computer is far too slow to let you type at the speed
you want to (for god's sake!!!)

In this case, skimming the code in GIT, I noticed that the person doing
the porting was not just converting base classes and stuff but making
fairly deep design decisions with regards to how components, and even
the core of the engine, will be treated. This is most distressing to me
because this is exactly where all those other cursed projects went
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P Zoltan | 4 Nov 2009 23:56
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Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:52:07 +0100, Alan Grimes <agrimes@...>  
wrote:

> The maintainers of Gentoo released a flash traffic ultimatum the other
> day that they were going to be removing KDE3 Real Soon Now. Naturally, I
> gave them a good and proper flaming with an arm's length list of
> packages for which there are no usable KDE4 equivalents.
>
> However, the problem remains.
>
> I'm too stupid to figure out how to pull the kde4 git archive mentioned
> the other day, I really do need help! =(

  Something like git clone should be used...

  For example, a howto is here:
   http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html

>
> Hopefully I'll be able to load it and see what it implements, what it
> doesn't, and how far off the rails the guy who wrote it was... =(
>
> Sorry...

>
> I don't mean to be insulting just there but I've been seeing a multitude
> of spectacularly bad design decisions in a great many packages that I
> require daily. I am suffering from diminished features and have had to
> spend many hours keeping my system near it's normal bare-minimum
> operating level. My continued use of Linux is becoming untenable!!! It's
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Richard Rondu | 4 Nov 2009 23:10
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Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:56 PM, P Zoltan <zoltan.padrah <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:52:07 +0100, Alan Grimes <agrimes <at> speakeasy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> The maintainers of Gentoo released a flash traffic ultimatum the other
>> day that they were going to be removing KDE3 Real Soon Now. Naturally, I
>> gave them a good and proper flaming with an arm's length list of
>> packages for which there are no usable KDE4 equivalents.
>>
>> However, the problem remains.
>>
>> I'm too stupid to figure out how to pull the kde4 git archive mentioned
>> the other day, I really do need help! =(
>
>  Something like git clone should be used...
>
>  For example, a howto is here:
>   http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html
>
>>
>> Hopefully I'll be able to load it and see what it implements, what it
>> doesn't, and how far off the rails the guy who wrote it was... =(
>>
>> Sorry...
>
>
>>
>> I don't mean to be insulting just there but I've been seeing a multitude
>> of spectacularly bad design decisions in a great many packages that I
>> require daily. I am suffering from diminished features and have had to
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Alan Grimes | 5 Nov 2009 03:48
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Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

P Zoltan wrote:
>> I'm too stupid to figure out how to pull the kde4 git archive mentioned
>> the other day, I really do need help! =(
> 
>   Something like git clone should be used...
> 
>   For example, a howto is here:
>    http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html

Thanks, but the real problem is that I don't know what URL to use as the
repository location, what path, etc... =( Sourceforge is nice because it
has instructions for that. =\

>   In something new, there's always a risk. Luckily for ktechlab we have a  
> lot of code that nobody dares to touch, because it would break in  
> unimaginable ways/locations. So a rewrite about which we know how does it  
> work is not an issue.

That doesn't follow. You're just adding to the mess with a bit that you
understand but everyone else doesn't.

I've been through most of ktechlab's code and I am very willing, eager
even, to explain what I've learned.

>   Electronic point of view != programming point of view.

>   A design where the core only manages components looks very feasable to  
> me. Any component should be threated in equal way.
>   For example some audio player apps come with ogg, mp3, ... decoders as  
> plugins, even if the program would be useless without them.
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Juan De Vincenzo | 5 Nov 2009 04:00
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Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

Please try this, I think you should be able to pull the code from this repo:

http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/

Also, does anybody know this guy? http://tuxbotix.wordpress.com/

He should really be invited onboard if he is not here yet.

Regards,
Juan

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Alan Grimes <agrimes@...> wrote:
> P Zoltan wrote:
>>> I'm too stupid to figure out how to pull the kde4 git archive mentioned
>>> the other day, I really do need help! =(
>>
>>   Something like git clone should be used...
>>
>>   For example, a howto is here:
>>    http://linux.yyz.us/git-howto.html
>
> Thanks, but the real problem is that I don't know what URL to use as the
> repository location, what path, etc... =( Sourceforge is nice because it
> has instructions for that. =\
>
>>   In something new, there's always a risk. Luckily for ktechlab we have a
>> lot of code that nobody dares to touch, because it would break in
>> unimaginable ways/locations. So a rewrite about which we know how does it
>> work is not an issue.
>
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Alan Grimes | 5 Nov 2009 07:15
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Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

Juan De Vincenzo wrote:
> Please try this, I think you should be able to pull the code from this repo:
> 
> http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/
> 
> Also, does anybody know this guy? http://tuxbotix.wordpress.com/
> 
> He should really be invited onboard if he is not here yet.

Thanks, that was a big help. Unfortunately, it looks like that was the
wrong branch or something.

I took a guess at it and got this error:

#################
atg <at> leenooks ~/source/ktechlab $ git clone
http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/kde4-playground/
ktechlab4
Initialized empty Git repository in
/home/atg/source/ktechlab/ktechlab4/.git/
fatal:
http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/kde4-playground//info/refs
not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?
##################

BLEH!!! =(

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Link | 5 Nov 2009 08:27

Re: Urgency of KDE4 port. =(

On 05/11/09 07:15, Alan Grimes wrote:
> Juan De Vincenzo wrote:
>> Please try this, I think you should be able to pull the code from this repo:
>>
>> http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/
>>
>> Also, does anybody know this guy? http://tuxbotix.wordpress.com/
>>
>> He should really be invited onboard if he is not here yet.
>
> Thanks, that was a big help. Unfortunately, it looks like that was the
> wrong branch or something.
>
> I took a guess at it and got this error:
>
> #################
> atg <at> leenooks ~/source/ktechlab $ git clone
> http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/kde4-playground/
> ktechlab4
> Initialized empty Git repository in
> /home/atg/source/ktechlab/ktechlab4/.git/
> fatal:
> http://krtek.asta.uni-luebeck.de:8080/git/ktechlab.git/kde4-playground//info/refs
> not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?
> ##################
>
> BLEH!!! =(
>
>

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