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Prentice Bisbal | 13 Jun 2012 16:04
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Status of beowulf.org?

I know this came up recently. I just wanted to see if any new
information has surfaced.

Does anyone know what the status of beowulf.org is? I will be starting a
new job in few weeks, and I'm in the process of unsubscribing from all
the mailing lists I subscribe to at my current job. Following the link
to the beowulf.org mailman page to control my subscription results in

The connection has timed out  
The server at www.beowulf.org is taking too long to respond.

Looks like I'll be unsubscribing through e-mail commands, but I'm
worried about how difficult it will be to re-subscribe once I start the
new job.

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Joe Landman | 13 Jun 2012 16:11
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Re: Status of beowulf.org?

On 06/13/2012 10:04 AM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
> I know this came up recently. I just wanted to see if any new
> information has surfaced.
>
> Does anyone know what the status of beowulf.org is? I will be starting a

This is part of Penguin Computing, and may have whithered a bit since 
Don Becker left.

> new job in few weeks, and I'm in the process of unsubscribing from all
> the mailing lists I subscribe to at my current job. Following the link
> to the beowulf.org mailman page to control my subscription results in
>
> The connection has timed out
> The server at www.beowulf.org is taking too long to respond.
>
>
> Looks like I'll be unsubscribing through e-mail commands, but I'm
> worried about how difficult it will be to re-subscribe once I start the
> new job.

If Penguin doesn't want to handle hosting it anymore, please let us know 
(and feel free to contact me offline, we'd be happy to either host it, 
or set it up on EC2 or sumthin).

>

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Jonathan Aquilina | 13 Jun 2012 16:13
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Re: Status of beowulf.org?

I too am willing to host it granted I am only a lurker, clustering is something that still highly interests me.
Regards

Jonathan Aquilina



On 13 Jun 2012, at 16:11, Joe Landman wrote:

On 06/13/2012 10:04 AM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:
I know this came up recently. I just wanted to see if any new
information has surfaced.

Does anyone know what the status of beowulf.org is? I will be starting a

This is part of Penguin Computing, and may have whithered a bit since
Don Becker left.

new job in few weeks, and I'm in the process of unsubscribing from all
the mailing lists I subscribe to at my current job. Following the link
to the beowulf.org mailman page to control my subscription results in

The connection has timed out
The server at www.beowulf.org is taking too long to respond.


Looks like I'll be unsubscribing through e-mail commands, but I'm
worried about how difficult it will be to re-subscribe once I start the
new job.

If Penguin doesn't want to handle hosting it anymore, please let us know
(and feel free to contact me offline, we'd be happy to either host it,
or set it up on EC2 or sumthin).




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<div>I too am willing to host it granted I am only a lurker, clustering is something that still highly interests me.<br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span"><div>Regards</div>
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<div>Jonathan Aquilina</div>
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</div>
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<div>On 13 Jun 2012, at 16:11, Joe Landman wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 06/13/2012 10:04 AM, Prentice Bisbal wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">I know this came up recently. I just wanted to see if any new<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">information has surfaced.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Does anyone know what the status of <a href="http://beowulf.org">beowulf.org</a> is? I will be starting a<br>
</blockquote>
<br>This is part of Penguin Computing, and may have whithered a bit since <br>Don Becker left.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">new job in few weeks, and I'm in the process of unsubscribing from all<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">the mailing lists I subscribe to at my current job. Following the link<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">to the <a href="http://beowulf.org">beowulf.org</a> mailman page to control my subscription results in<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">The connection has timed out<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">The server at <a href="http://www.beowulf.org">www.beowulf.org</a> is taking too long to respond.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">Looks like I'll be unsubscribing through e-mail commands, but I'm<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">worried about how difficult it will be to re-subscribe once I start the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">new job.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>If Penguin doesn't want to handle hosting it anymore, please let us know <br>(and feel free to contact me offline, we'd be happy to either host it, <br>or set it up on EC2 or sumthin).<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>
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Jan Wender | 13 Jun 2012 16:28
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Re: Status of beowulf.org?

Hi all,

I tried again to reach Arend at Penguin, now using another email adress. 
Will keep you posted.

Cheerio, Jan
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Hi all,

I tried again to reach Arend at Penguin, now using another email adress. 
Will keep you posted.

Cheerio, Jan
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Alan Louis Scheinine | 13 Jun 2012 17:30
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The message archive at the web site would be valuable
for those interested in Beowulf clusters.
I've read almost every message for many years,
but when a problem or question arises I need to go
back to the archive to get details.

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Douglas Eadline | 13 Jun 2012 21:35
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This is a question that is going to need an answer sooner
than later and some input from Penguin would be nice -- nudge

Certainly there are others that can help with this effort
if Penguin is too busy or do not have the resources.

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> I know this came up recently. I just wanted to see if any new
> information has surfaced.
>
> Does anyone know what the status of beowulf.org is? I will be starting a
> new job in few weeks, and I'm in the process of unsubscribing from all
> the mailing lists I subscribe to at my current job. Following the link
> to the beowulf.org mailman page to control my subscription results in
>
> The connection has timed out
> The server at www.beowulf.org is taking too long to respond.
>
>
> Looks like I'll be unsubscribing through e-mail commands, but I'm
> worried about how difficult it will be to re-subscribe once I start the
> new job.
>
> --
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Jan Wender | 15 Jun 2012 21:25
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Hi all,

Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would 
like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to 
administrate it.

Cheerio, Jan
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Hi all,

Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would 
like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to 
administrate it.

Cheerio, Jan
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Bernard Li | 15 Jun 2012 21:30

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Hi Jan:

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Jan Wender
<j.wender <at> science-computing.de> wrote:

> Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would
> like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to
> administrate it.

Do you think you can elaborate on what they need help with?  Moderating emails?

Thanks,

Bernard
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Jonathan Aquilina | 15 Jun 2012 23:22
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Re: Status of beowulf.org?

I would love to help moderate the list :) 

Regards

Jonathan Aquilina



On 15 Jun 2012, at 21:30, Bernard Li wrote:

Hi Jan:

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Jan Wender
<j.wender <at> science-computing.de> wrote:

Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would
like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to
administrate it.

Do you think you can elaborate on what they need help with?  Moderating emails?

Thanks,

Bernard
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<div>I would love to help moderate the list :)&nbsp;<div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span"><div>Regards</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Jonathan Aquilina</div>
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<div>On 15 Jun 2012, at 21:30, Bernard Li wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi Jan:<br><br>On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Jan Wender<br>&lt;<a href="mailto:j.wender <at> science-computing.de">j.wender <at> science-computing.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite">administrate it.<br>
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Eugen Leitl | 16 Jun 2012 11:19

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:22:53PM +0200, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
> I would love to help moderate the list :) 

As I'm already moderating a bunch of lists another one wouldn't
be a problem for me.

> Regards
> 
> Jonathan Aquilina
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 Jun 2012, at 21:30, Bernard Li wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jan:
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Jan Wender
> > <j.wender <at> science-computing.de> wrote:
> > 
> >> Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would
> >> like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to
> >> administrate it.
> > 
> > Do you think you can elaborate on what they need help with?  Moderating emails?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Bernard
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Chris Samuel | 16 Jun 2012 00:28
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On Saturday 16 June 2012 05:25:33 Jan Wender wrote:

> Hi all,

Hi Jan,

> Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They
> would  like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some
> volunteers to administrate it.

I've been (and still am) the list owner/admin of various Mailman lists 
for many years, happy to help out if need be.

Did they say anything about the beowulf.org website ?

cheers,
Chris
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Bill Broadley | 16 Jun 2012 00:49
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On 06/15/2012 12:25 PM, Jan Wender wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would
> like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to
> administrate it.

Well if they are doing such a poor job and aren't willing to
administrate it we should move it elsewhere.
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Joe Landman | 16 Jun 2012 01:10
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On 06/15/2012 06:49 PM, Bill Broadley wrote:
> On 06/15/2012 12:25 PM, Jan Wender wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They would
>> like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some volunteers to
>> administrate it.
>
> Well if they are doing such a poor job and aren't willing to
> administrate it we should move it elsewhere.

Hmmm  ... I pinged my contact within Penguin and was told they were 
working on it.  This said, I seem to remember that beowulf.org was Scyld 
property before the acquisition by Penguin.  Looking at the whois output 
somewhat confirms ownership.

If this is the case, "we" can't move it "elsewhere" without the owners 
(Penguin's) permission.

I think that part of why its fallen by the wayside at Penguin is due to 
Don taking up residence at Nvidia, and no one either stepping up to it 
or being assigned to it.

All of this said, if a reasonable proposal is made to Penguin about 
helping to run/administer it, I think they might be willing to consider 
it.  If, on the other hand, it is approached in a somewhat more brusque 
manner, I wouldn't hold a refusal to consider proposals against them.

So far, we, Chris Samuel, Doug Eadline, Jon A, and a few others have 
indicated a willingness to help.  I can't say I like mailman very much 
(set many up, royal PIA to deal with IMO), but Chris Samuel has good 
mailman-foo.  Might make sense to enable admin by Chris and a small 
group of mailman-gurus.  I've got (whether I like it or not) web-foo ... 
and mail server foo ... and would be happy to help there.  Doug/Jon/... 
have foo of all sorts, and would certainly help out.  If we needed 
distributed carbon-bots for moderation, this is doable (Chris might be 
able to comment on this).

We would (my company) be happy to setup/donate a small server with 
storage to run this if Penguin wants to get completely out.  We could 
host it as well at our site.  Could also run it on EC2, though I can 
tell you that this is not nearly as cheap as Amazon might wish you to 
think.  The cost benefit doesn't really work so well for this ...

Lots of possibilities.

Seems to me though, that one of the natural leaders of this would be 
Doug Eadline.  Don't know where ClusterMonkey sits, but that is a well 
run site.

Just sayin...

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On Saturday 16 June 2012 09:10:26 Joe Landman wrote:

> If we needed distributed carbon-bots for moderation, this is doable
> (Chris might be  able to comment on this).

Quite doable, you can list a number of people as moderators (or 
admins) of Mailman lists.  Admins can attend to moderation requests 
too (so don't have to be listed twice).

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Bernard Li | 16 Jun 2012 02:47

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Hi all:

Before we get too deep in this discussion regarding moderation, I'd
like to ask two questions:

1) Is this list moderated?  And if so, for what specifically?
2) Is it still necessary to moderate the list, moving forward?

Thanks,

Bernard

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Chris Samuel <samuel <at> unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
> On Saturday 16 June 2012 09:10:26 Joe Landman wrote:
>
>> If we needed distributed carbon-bots for moderation, this is doable
>> (Chris might be  able to comment on this).
>
> Quite doable, you can list a number of people as moderators (or
> admins) of Mailman lists.  Admins can attend to moderation requests
> too (so don't have to be listed twice).
>
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On Saturday 16 June 2012 10:47:12 Bernard Li wrote:

> Hi all:
> 
> Before we get too deep in this discussion regarding moderation, I'd
> like to ask two questions:
> 
> 1) Is this list moderated?  And if so, for what specifically?

No idea, it used to be that new subscribers posts were delayed (as if 
moderated) and at some point that would magically disappear and your 
posts would go straight through.

It's something that's very easy to do with Mailman.

> 2) Is it still necessary to moderate the list, moving forward

That's another question altogether.. :-)

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Lyle Bickley | 16 Jun 2012 01:22
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:49:27 -0700
Bill Broadley <bill <at> cse.ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> On 06/15/2012 12:25 PM, Jan Wender wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Arend from Penguin replied and they are looking for the list. They
> > would like to continue hosting the list, but would ask for some
> > volunteers to administrate it.
> 
> Well if they are doing such a poor job and aren't willing to
> administrate it we should move it elsewhere.

I'll second that!

Cheers,
Lyle

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