Laur Mõtus | 12 Aug 2009 14:07
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www.semanticdesktop.org community site

Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>
Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people <at> semanticdesktop.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

<div>
<p>Hello,<br><br>Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a> &amp; <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a> ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>All the best,<br>Laur M&otilde;tus<br>Estobuntu<br>ITCollege.ee<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann <at> dfki.de">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a href="mailto:people@...">people <at> semanticdesktop.org</a> mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fon: &nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern &nbsp;Fax: &nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mail: &nbsp;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
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Leo Sauermann | 12 Aug 2009 19:25
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<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.

<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!

What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)

so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.

best
Leo

It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following words:
Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>
Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

_______________________________________________ people mailing list people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people


-- _____________________________________________________ Dr. Leo Sauermann http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122 P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102 Germany Mail: leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 _____________________________________________________
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 <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an
issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
 <at> Laur M&otilde;tus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic
Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you
get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)<br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or
Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking
community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG
has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur M&otilde;tus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the
following words:
<blockquote cite="mid:1a891e4d0908120507r743d0346ya3f437c7348b98c4@..." type="cite">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a> &amp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room
together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from
us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres,
Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur M&otilde;tus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">Hello
Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fon: &nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern &nbsp;Fax: &nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mail: &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><br>
</blockquote>
  </div>
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_______________________________________________
people mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a>

</blockquote>
<br><br>-- 
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer 
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

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Stanley Gould | 13 Aug 2009 00:33
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All,

 

I recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/).  this is open source software with an extensive body of developers creating extensions.

 

Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop domain...

 

I will be installing and populating this software platform to capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.) pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association managers).

 

I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management oversight purposes.

 

My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.

 

I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our Semantic Desktoppers?

 

I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.  We are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to this end.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

 

 

 

From: people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org [mailto:people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann
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Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.

<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!

What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)

so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.

best
Leo

It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following words:

Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>

Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people



 

 

_______________________________________________

people mailing list

people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org

http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 




--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>All,<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I recommend using the free software titled
"Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from:
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/).&nbsp; this is open source software with an
extensive body of developers creating extensions.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association
managers).<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management
oversight purposes.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn
bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop
user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.&nbsp; We are
all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and update,
the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should continue to
drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to this end.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley Gould, CCAM<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span> people-bounces@...
[mailto:people-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM<br>To: Laur M&otilde;tus<br>Cc: Nepomuk; people@...; oscaf@...; OSCAF,
Sven Ruby<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site
- now we need a community manager<p></p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
 <at> Laur M&otilde;tus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic
Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)<br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur M&otilde;tus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following
words: <p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a>
&amp; <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur M&otilde;tus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<p></p></p>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann &lt;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fon: &nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern &nbsp;Fax: &nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mail: &nbsp;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p></p>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><p></p></p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p>&nbsp;</p>_______________________________________________<p></p>people mailing list<p></p>
<a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><p></p>
<a href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p>&nbsp; <p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><p></p></p>

-- <p></p>_____________________________________________________<p></p>Dr. Leo Sauermann&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> <p></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer <p></p>Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<p></p>Trippstadter Strasse 122<p></p>P.O. Box 2080&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fon:&nbsp;&nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<p></p>D-67663 Kaiserslautern&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<p></p>Germany&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mail:&nbsp; <a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><p></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>Geschaeftsfuehrung:<p></p>Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<p></p>Dr. Walter Olthoff<p></p>Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<p></p>Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<p></p>Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<p></p>_____________________________________________________<p></p>
</div>

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Leo Sauermann | 17 Aug 2009 20:56
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www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

Hi Stanley,

SMW is a good idea.

Two solutions:

"Our own"
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven Ruby.

"Semweb.org"
We redirect www.semanticdesktop.org to http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop

Independent of that:
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from member fees in exchange for worktime :-)

please express your preferences:
http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t

The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers, Markus Krötzsch.
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on conferences and a little less with Markus Krötzsch, so I trust those guys to host it right)
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic web data, without having the need to create a new installation.

In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact

best
Leo



It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the following words:

All,

 

I recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/).  this is open source software with an extensive body of developers creating extensions.

 

Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop domain...

 

I will be installing and populating this software platform to capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.) pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association managers).

 

I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management oversight purposes.

 

My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.

 

I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our Semantic Desktoppers?

 

I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.  We are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to this end.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

 

 

 

From: people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org [mailto:people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Laur Mõtus
Cc: Nepomuk; people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; oscaf-0aAXYlwwYILa0NDaDZojtg@public.gmane.org; OSCAF, Sven Ruby
Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.

<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!

What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)

so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.

best
Leo

It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following words:

Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>

Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people



 

 

_______________________________________________

people mailing list

people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org

http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 




--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

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-- _____________________________________________________ Dr. Leo Sauermann http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122 P.O. Box 2080 Fon: +43 6991 gnowsis D-67663 Kaiserslautern Fax: +49 631 20575-102 Germany Mail: leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender) Dr. Walter Olthoff Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313 _____________________________________________________
<div>
Hi Stanley,<br><br>
SMW is a good idea.<br><br>
Two solutions:<br><br>
"Our own"<br>
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven
Ruby. <br><br>
"Semweb.org"<br>
We redirect <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a> to
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop</a> <br><br>
Independent of that: <br>
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be
good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from
member fees in exchange for worktime :-)<br><br>
please express your preferences:<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t">http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t</a><br><br>
The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources
better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at
semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers,
Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch.<br>
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on
conferences and a little less with Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch, so I trust those
guys to host it right)<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About</a><br>
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic
web data, without having the need to create a new installation.<br><br>
In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br><br><br>
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the
following words:
<blockquote cite="mid:000c01ca1b9c$f02cb3b0$d0861b10$ <at> com" type="cite">

  <div class="Section1">
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>All,<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
recommend using the free software titled
"Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://semantic-mediawiki.org/">http://semantic-mediawiki.org/</a>).&nbsp; this is open source software with an
extensive body of developers creating extensions.<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Here
is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources,
etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner
Association
managers).<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and
within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and
management
oversight purposes.<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>My
goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using
"intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn
bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop
user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces
and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal
framework.<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.&nbsp; We are
all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and
update,
the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should
continue to
drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to
this end.<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley
Gould, CCAM<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">people-bounces@...</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">mailto:people-bounces@...</a>] On Behalf Of Leo
Sauermann<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM<br>To: Laur M&otilde;tus<br>Cc: Nepomuk; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oscaf@...">oscaf@...</a>;
OSCAF,
Sven Ruby<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
community site
- now we need a community manager<p></p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"> <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an
issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
 <at> Laur M&otilde;tus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic
Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you
get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)<br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or
Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community,
we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur M&otilde;tus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the
following
words: <p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a>
&amp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room
together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres,
Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur M&otilde;tus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<p></p></p>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fon: &nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern &nbsp;Fax: &nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mail: &nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p></p>
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  <p>&nbsp;</p>

  <p>&nbsp;</p>
  _______________________________________________<p></p>
  people mailing list<p></p>
  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><p></p>
  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p>
  &nbsp; <p></p>
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  -- <p></p>
  _____________________________________________________<p></p>
  Dr. Leo Sauermann&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> <p></p>
  <p>&nbsp;</p>
  Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer <p></p>
  Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<p></p>
  Trippstadter Strasse 122<p></p>
  P.O. Box 2080&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fon:&nbsp;&nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<p></p>
  D-67663 Kaiserslautern&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<p></p>
  Germany&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mail:&nbsp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><p></p>
  <p>&nbsp;</p>
  Geschaeftsfuehrung:<p></p>
  Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<p></p>
  Dr. Walter Olthoff<p></p>
  Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<p></p>
  Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<p></p>
  Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<p></p>
  _____________________________________________________<p></p>
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<br><br>-- 
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer 
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

</div>
Stanley Gould | 23 Aug 2009 16:59
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www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

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Hi All

 

I have been out of touch for a few days and will be leaving for vacation Monday, August 24 and returning September 8.  While I will be checking my emails occasionally, I may not be in touch often until after my return from vacation.

 

Leo, as to expressing my preference for your proposed hosting solutions, I will defer opinion to those of you more familiar with the options and your current operating environment.

 

I am not yet familiar enough with your organization (and that of OSCAF.org ) and its dynamics to fully understand exactly what the job duties are or will be.  Please help me to understand my role and duties by providing a brief job description of duties and a monthly time estimate for each such duty.  Please also emphasize the expected response time/cycle for each so I better understand the urgency of each from your collective perspective.

 

What are your list sizes (and when combined, unique members total).  What is the current monthly communications volume?

 

I will be happy to join OSCAF.org, just tell me how.  My first glance at the sight did not reveal how to enroll as an “individual” (especially in terms of selecting the “individual” membership fee option), so how do you advise that I proceed with enrollment?

 

When was Semantic Desktop Org established?

 

Who shall I contact, to get started, when I return from vacation?

 

Finally, I would like to acquire a list of all who are actively involved in the governing and administering the web site, and perhaps a little something about their role in this, so that I can get to know everyone.

 

Thanks

 

Looking forward to serving the group and growing the website, upon my return.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

LinkedIn

 

 

From: Leo Sauermann [mailto:leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:57 AM
To: Stanley Gould
Cc: 'Laur Mõtus'; people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; 'OSCAF, Sven Ruby'; oscaf-0aAXYlwwYILa0NDaDZojtg@public.gmane.org; 'Nepomuk'
Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

Hi Stanley,

SMW is a good idea.

Two solutions:

"Our own"
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven Ruby.

"Semweb.org"
We redirect www.semanticdesktop.org to http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop

Independent of that:
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from member fees in exchange for worktime :-)

please express your preferences:
http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t

The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers, Markus Krötzsch.
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on conferences and a little less with Markus Krötzsch, so I trust those guys to host it right)
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic web data, without having the need to create a new installation.

In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact

best
Leo



It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the following words:

All,

 

I recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/).  this is open source software with an extensive body of developers creating extensions.

 

Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop domain...

 

I will be installing and populating this software platform to capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.) pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association managers).

 

I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management oversight purposes.

 

My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.

 

I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our Semantic Desktoppers?

 

I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.  We are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to this end.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

 

 

 

From: people-bounces <at> semanticdesktop.org [mailto:people-bounces <at> semanticdesktop.org] On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Laur Mõtus
Cc: Nepomuk; people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; oscaf-0aAXYlwwYILa0NDaDZojtg@public.gmane.org; OSCAF, Sven Ruby
Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.

<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!

What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)

so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.

best
Leo

It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following words:

Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>

Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people




 

 

 

 

 

 

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people mailing list

people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org

http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 





--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

 

 

_______________________________________________

people mailing list

people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org

http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 




--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

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<div class="Section1">

<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I have been out of touch for a few days and will be leaving
for vacation Monday, August 24 and returning September 8.&nbsp; While I will be
checking my emails occasionally, I may not be in touch often until after my
return from vacation.<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Leo, as to expressing my preference for your proposed
hosting solutions, I will defer opinion to those of you more familiar with the
options and your current operating environment.<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I am not yet familiar enough with your organization (and
that of OSCAF.org ) and its dynamics to fully understand exactly what the job
duties are or will be.&nbsp; Please help me to understand my role and duties by
providing a brief job description of duties and a monthly time estimate for
each such duty.&nbsp; Please also emphasize the expected response time/cycle for
each so I better understand the urgency of each from your collective
perspective.<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">What are your list sizes (and when combined, unique members
total).&nbsp; What is the current monthly communications volume?<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">I will be happy to join OSCAF.org, just tell me how.&nbsp; My
first glance at the sight did not reveal how to enroll as an &ldquo;individual&rdquo;
(especially in terms of selecting the &ldquo;individual&rdquo; membership fee option), so
how do you advise that I proceed with enrollment?<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">When was Semantic Desktop Org established?<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Who shall I contact, to get started, when I return from
vacation?<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Finally, I would like to acquire a list of all who are
actively involved in the governing and administering the web site, and perhaps
a little something about their role in this, so that I can get to know
everyone.<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to serving the group and growing the website,
upon my return.<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley Gould, CCAM<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleygould"><span>LinkedIn</span></a><p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span> Leo Sauermann
[mailto:leo.sauermann@...] <br>Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:57 AM<br>To: Stanley Gould<br>Cc: 'Laur M&otilde;tus'; people@...; 'OSCAF, Sven Ruby';
oscaf@...; 'Nepomuk'<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site
- now we need a community manager<p></p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Stanley,<br><br>
SMW is a good idea.<br><br>
Two solutions:<br><br>
"Our own"<br>
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven Ruby. <br><br>
"Semweb.org"<br>
We redirect <a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
to <a href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop</a>
<br><br>
Independent of that: <br>
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be
good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from member
fees in exchange for worktime :-)<br><br>
please express your preferences:<br><a href="http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t">http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t</a><br><br>
The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources
better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at semanticweb.org,
which is maintained by one of the main developers, Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch.<br>
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on
conferences and a little less with Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch, so I trust those guys to
host it right)<br><a href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About</a><br>
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic web data,
without having the need to create a new installation.<br><br>
In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br><br><br>
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the following
words: <p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>All,</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki"
(download from: <a href="http://semantic-mediawiki.org/">http://semantic-mediawiki.org/</a>).&nbsp;
this is open source software with an extensive body of developers creating
extensions.</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association
managers).</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management
oversight purposes.</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn bundled
into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to
a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.&nbsp; We
are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and
update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should
continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working
to this end.</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley Gould, CCAM</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span> <a href="mailto:people-bounces@...">people-bounces <at> semanticdesktop.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:people-bounces@...">mailto:people-bounces <at> semanticdesktop.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM<br>To: Laur M&otilde;tus<br>Cc: Nepomuk; <a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>;
<a href="mailto:oscaf@...">oscaf@...</a>; OSCAF, Sven
Ruby<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of <a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
community site - now we need a community manager</span><p></p></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
 <at> Laur M&otilde;tus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager"
- someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together -
and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)<br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur M&otilde;tus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following
words: <p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a>
&amp; <a href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur M&otilde;tus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<p></p></p>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann &lt;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;<p></p></p>

<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
--<br>
_____________________________________________________<br>
Dr. Leo Sauermann &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann" target="_blank">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a><br><br>
Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer<br>
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<br>
Trippstadter Strasse 122<br>
P.O. Box 2080 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fon: &nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<br>
D-67663 Kaiserslautern &nbsp;Fax: &nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<br>
Germany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mail: &nbsp;<a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><br><br>
Geschaeftsfuehrung:<br>
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<br>
Dr. Walter Olthoff<br>
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<br>
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<br>
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<br>
_____________________________________________________<br><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
people mailing list<br><a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><br><a href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people" target="_blank">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p></p>

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<p>&nbsp;</p>&nbsp; <p></p>&nbsp;<p></p>_______________________________________________<p></p>people mailing list<p></p>
<a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><p></p>
<a href="http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people">http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people</a><p></p>&nbsp; <p></p>

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-- <p></p>_____________________________________________________<p></p>Dr. Leo Sauermann&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.dfki.de/%7Esauermann">http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann</a> <p></p>&nbsp;<p></p>Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer <p></p>Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<p></p>Trippstadter Strasse 122<p></p>P.O. Box 2080&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fon:&nbsp;&nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<p></p>D-67663 Kaiserslautern&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<p></p>Germany&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mail:&nbsp; <a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><p></p>&nbsp;<p></p>Geschaeftsfuehrung:<p></p>Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<p></p>Dr. Walter Olthoff<p></p>Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<p></p>Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<p></p>Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<p></p>_____________________________________________________<p></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>_______________________________________________<p></p>people mailing list<p></p>
<a href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a><p></p>
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<p>&nbsp;</p>Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer <p></p>Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH<p></p>Trippstadter Strasse 122<p></p>P.O. Box 2080&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fon:&nbsp;&nbsp; +43 6991 gnowsis<p></p>D-67663 Kaiserslautern&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp; +49 631 20575-102<p></p>Germany&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mail:&nbsp; <a href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a><p></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>Geschaeftsfuehrung:<p></p>Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)<p></p>Dr. Walter Olthoff<p></p>Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:<p></p>Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes<p></p>Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313<p></p>_____________________________________________________<p></p>
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www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

Stanley,

Good to hear!

I am a bit busy with a lot of things currently (argh), and can't reply right now - but as you go on vacation soon,
I will be able to reply sooner or later!



best
Leo

It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 23.08.2009 16:59 the following words:

Hi All

 

I have been out of touch for a few days and will be leaving for vacation Monday, August 24 and returning September 8.  While I will be checking my emails occasionally, I may not be in touch often until after my return from vacation.

 

Leo, as to expressing my preference for your proposed hosting solutions, I will defer opinion to those of you more familiar with the options and your current operating environment.

 

I am not yet familiar enough with your organization (and that of OSCAF.org ) and its dynamics to fully understand exactly what the job duties are or will be.  Please help me to understand my role and duties by providing a brief job description of duties and a monthly time estimate for each such duty.  Please also emphasize the expected response time/cycle for each so I better understand the urgency of each from your collective perspective.

 

What are your list sizes (and when combined, unique members total).  What is the current monthly communications volume?

 

I will be happy to join OSCAF.org, just tell me how.  My first glance at the sight did not reveal how to enroll as an “individual” (especially in terms of selecting the “individual” membership fee option), so how do you advise that I proceed with enrollment?

 

When was Semantic Desktop Org established?

 

Who shall I contact, to get started, when I return from vacation?

 

Finally, I would like to acquire a list of all who are actively involved in the governing and administering the web site, and perhaps a little something about their role in this, so that I can get to know everyone.

 

Thanks

 

Looking forward to serving the group and growing the website, upon my return.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

LinkedIn

 

 

From: Leo Sauermann [mailto:leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:57 AM
To: Stanley Gould
Cc: 'Laur Mõtus'; people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; 'OSCAF, Sven Ruby'; oscaf-0aAXYlwwYILa0NDaDZojtg@public.gmane.org; 'Nepomuk'
Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

Hi Stanley,

SMW is a good idea.

Two solutions:

"Our own"
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven Ruby.

"Semweb.org"
We redirect www.semanticdesktop.org to http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop

Independent of that:
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from member fees in exchange for worktime :-)

please express your preferences:
http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t

The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at semanticweb.org, which is maintained by one of the main developers, Markus Krötzsch.
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on conferences and a little less with Markus Krötzsch, so I trust those guys to host it right)
http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic web data, without having the need to create a new installation.

In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact

best
Leo



It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the following words:

All,

 

I recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki" (download from: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/).  this is open source software with an extensive body of developers creating extensions.

 

Here is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop domain...

 

I will be installing and populating this software platform to capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources, etc.) pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner Association managers).

 

I am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and within which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and management oversight purposes.

 

My goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using "intelligent tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn bundled into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal framework.

 

I digress to say "what better way is there to serve our Semantic Desktoppers?

 

I will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.  We are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert and update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki should continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group working to this end.

 

 

Stanley Gould, CCAM

 

 

 

From: people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org [mailto:people-bounces-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Laur Mõtus
Cc: Nepomuk; people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org; oscaf-0aAXYlwwYILa0NDaDZojtg@public.gmane.org; OSCAF, Sven Ruby
Subject: Re: [people] hosting of www.semanticdesktop.org community site - now we need a community manager

 

<at> Sven Ruby:
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an issue. Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.

<at> Laur Mõtus:
Excellent!

What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community manager" - someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers together - and can install a wiki+mailinglist
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you get! organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)

so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or Laur's server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community, we can fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.

best
Leo

It was Laur Mõtus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the following words:

Hello,

Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( http://www.itcollege.ee & http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview ) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room together with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres, Trac etc) and what is the size of the server box?

All the best,
Laur Mõtus
Estobuntu
ITCollege.ee

2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann <leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org>

Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,

We have a community site where we have been collecting all known
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,
and the scientific workshops.
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.

www.semanticdesktop.org

Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:
www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies

Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,
implementations, ontologies etc...
* contination of the people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org mailinglist

Who could host this and maintain this site?

We can reuse the server donated  by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community
software,
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin
would be better to handle it.

best
Leo

--
_____________________________________________________
Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer
Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH
Trippstadter Strasse 122
P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis
D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102
Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

Geschaeftsfuehrung:
Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)
Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
_____________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
people mailing list
people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people




 

 

 

 

 

 

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people mailing list

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http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 





--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

 

 

_______________________________________________

people mailing list

people-8FRlne0xlECvj1b/ULB3Z0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org

http://lists.semanticdesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/people

 




--

_____________________________________________________

Dr. Leo Sauermann       http://www.dfki.de/~sauermann

 

Deutsches Forschungszentrum fuer

Kuenstliche Intelligenz DFKI GmbH

Trippstadter Strasse 122

P.O. Box 2080           Fon:   +43 6991 gnowsis

D-67663 Kaiserslautern  Fax:   +49 631 20575-102

Germany                 Mail:  leo.sauermann-7kGu3w2zD6I@public.gmane.org

 

Geschaeftsfuehrung:

Prof.Dr.Dr.h.c.mult. Wolfgang Wahlster (Vorsitzender)

Dr. Walter Olthoff

Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:

Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes

Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313

_____________________________________________________

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Stanley,<br><br>
Good to hear!<br><br>
I am a bit busy with a lot of things currently (argh), and can't reply
right now - but as you go on vacation soon, <br>
I will be able to reply sooner or later!<br><br><br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 23.08.2009 16:59 the
following words:
<blockquote cite="mid:000001ca2402$462b2e50$d2818af0$ <at> com" type="cite">

  <div class="Section1">
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi All<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">I have been out of touch for a few days and will
be leaving
for vacation Monday, August 24 and returning September 8.&nbsp; While I will
be
checking my emails occasionally, I may not be in touch often until
after my
return from vacation.<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Leo, as to expressing my preference for your
proposed
hosting solutions, I will defer opinion to those of you more familiar
with the
options and your current operating environment.<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">I am not yet familiar enough with your
organization (and
that of OSCAF.org ) and its dynamics to fully understand exactly what
the job
duties are or will be.&nbsp; Please help me to understand my role and duties
by
providing a brief job description of duties and a monthly time estimate
for
each such duty.&nbsp; Please also emphasize the expected response time/cycle
for
each so I better understand the urgency of each from your collective
perspective.<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">What are your list sizes (and when combined,
unique members
total).&nbsp; What is the current monthly communications volume?<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">I will be happy to join OSCAF.org, just tell me
how.&nbsp; My
first glance at the sight did not reveal how to enroll as an
&ldquo;individual&rdquo;
(especially in terms of selecting the &ldquo;individual&rdquo; membership fee
option), so
how do you advise that I proceed with enrollment?<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">When was Semantic Desktop Org established?<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Who shall I contact, to get started, when I
return from
vacation?<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Finally, I would like to acquire a list of all
who are
actively involved in the governing and administering the web site, and
perhaps
a little something about their role in this, so that I can get to know
everyone.<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Looking forward to serving the group and growing
the website,
upon my return.<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley
Gould, CCAM<p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleygould"><span>LinkedIn</span></a><p></p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
  <div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span>
Leo Sauermann
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">mailto:leo.sauermann@...</a>] <br>Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:57 AM<br>To: Stanley Gould<br>Cc: 'Laur M&otilde;tus'; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>; 'OSCAF, Sven
Ruby';
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:oscaf@...">oscaf@...</a>; 'Nepomuk'<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
community site
- now we need a community manager<p></p></span></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Stanley,<br><br>
SMW is a good idea.<br><br>
Two solutions:<br><br>
"Our own"<br>
Stanley manages the server in coordination with Sven Ruby. <br><br>
"Semweb.org"<br>
We redirect <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/SemanticDesktop</a>
  <br><br>
Independent of that: <br>
Stanley, if you want, you can be our "community manager". It would be
good if you join OSCAF.org as individual member, we exclude you from
member
fees in exchange for worktime :-)<br><br>
please express your preferences:<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t">http://www.doodle.com/frdk3mk5i4kwaw3t</a><br><br>
The second solution, "semweb.org" would manage our limited resources
better. We could even reuse the existing SMW installation at
semanticweb.org,
which is maintained by one of the main developers, Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch.<br>
(disclaimer: I have been drinking a lot of beer with Denny Vrandecic on
conferences and a little less with Markus Kr&ouml;tzsch, so I trust those
guys to
host it right)<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About">http://semanticweb.org/wiki/semanticweb.org:About</a><br>
This would allow us to interlink our data with the existing semantic
web data,
without having the need to create a new installation.<br><br>
In both solutions, Stanley could serve as community contact<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br><br><br>
It was Stanley Gould who said at the right time 13.08.2009 00:33 the
following
words: <p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>All,</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
recommend using the free software titled "Semantic-MediaWiki"
(download from: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://semantic-mediawiki.org/">http://semantic-mediawiki.org/</a>).&nbsp;
this is open source software with an extensive body of developers
creating
extensions.</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Here
is why I recommend this software for the semantic desktop
domain...</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will be installing and populating this software platform to
capture everything (laws, regulations, policies, best practices, vendor
resources, case studies, links to all other related web resources,
etc.)
pertaining to a small industry of Community Managers (Homeowner
Association
managers).</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
am currently working to build a semantic IUI, that serves as a
desktop portal through which all other applications are launched, and
within
which the user's state is always maintained and logged for user and
management
oversight purposes.</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>My
goal is to convert user from applications and initiating the
step-by-step document cycle functions, to writing and using
"intelligent
tasks", sequenced and bundled into "procedures' that are in turn
bundled
into "Projects" that change the paradigm from being a desktop user to
a workflow designer and operator, where application interfaces and the
directory tree disappear, as all I/O is viewed through the portal
framework.</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
digress to say "what better way is there to serve our
Semantic Desktoppers?</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
will volunteer to serve on the team as a co-manager.&nbsp; We
are all very busy, but by adopting the proper tools to crawl, convert
and
update, the cost to grow and maintain a world-class semantic wiki
should
continue to drop, so long as there remains a small but dedicated group
working
to this end.</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Stanley
Gould, CCAM</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span><p></p></p>
  <div>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span>
  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">people-bounces@...</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people-bounces@...">mailto:people-bounces@...</a>]
  On Behalf Of Leo Sauermann<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:25 AM<br>To: Laur M&otilde;tus<br>Cc: Nepomuk; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>;
  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:oscaf@...">oscaf@...</a>;
OSCAF, Sven
Ruby<br>Subject: Re: [people] hosting of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org">www.semanticdesktop.org</a>
community site - now we need a community manager</span><p></p></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"> <at> Sven Ruby:<br>
the domain fee of 10EUR/Year will be covered by OSCAF, that is not an
issue.
Thats why we have the foundation. Also we could pay the hosting.<br><br>
 <at> Laur M&otilde;tus:<br>
Excellent!<br><br>
What we need now is someone with a feeling for community - a "community
manager"
- someone who likes to keep our wild bunch of Semantic Desktoppers
together -
and can install a wiki+mailinglist<br>
you, dear reader, please do it! think of the fame! all the friends you
get!
organizing hacks! its gonna be awesome :-)<br><br>
so, once someone volunteers we can move to either Sven's server or
Laur's
server. I think as a non-for-profit open source and hacking community,
we can
fulfill most requirements the Estonian IT college LUG has.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
It was Laur M&otilde;tus who said at the right time 12.08.2009 14:07 the
following
words: <p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br><br>
Linux User Group of The Estonian IT College ( <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee">http://www.itcollege.ee</a>
&amp; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview">http://www.itcollege.ee/?url=overview</a>
) can help with a 1 Gb up/down link hosting in a secure server room
together
with administration if we can agree on the terms recuired from us.<br>
What services would the server require to run (e.g. Apache, Postres,
Trac etc)
and what is the size of the server box?<br><br>
All the best,<br>
Laur M&otilde;tus<br>
Estobuntu<br>
ITCollege.ee<p></p></p>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal">2009/8/12 Leo Sauermann &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:leo.sauermann@...">leo.sauermann@...</a>&gt;<p></p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Semantic Desktoppers, NEPOMUKs, and OSCAFs,<br><br>
We have a community site where we have been collecting all known<br>
semanticdesktop implementations and where we have some FAQs about<br>
semanticdesktop and our past workshops in Berlin and Kaiserslautern,<br>
and the scientific workshops.<br>
... this site should move now to our own administration and maintenance.<br><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org</a><br><br>
Really crucial is long-term hosting of this:<br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies" target="_blank">www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies</a><br><br>
Besides that, these things would be nice to continue, but since the<br>
community was dormant for long, it could also go to sleep...<br>
* a public Wiki with the past and present workshops, tools,<br>
implementations, ontologies etc...<br>
* contination of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:people@...">people@...</a>
mailinglist<br><br>
Who could host this and maintain this site?<br><br>
We can reuse the server donated &nbsp;by Sven Ruby for OSCAF.org,<br>
but I don't have the time nor skills to long-term maintain a community<br>
software,<br>
I know I screw up things with computers, and a trustable Unix admin<br>
would be better to handle it.<br><br>
best<br>
Leo<br><br>
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  _____________________________________________________<p></p>
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Dr. Walter Olthoff
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats:
Prof. Dr. h.c. Hans A. Aukes
Amtsgericht Kaiserslautern, HRB 2313
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