Stefan Knorr (Astron | 24 Feb 01:13 2012

Towards useful icon themes

Hi people,

right now, you might have noticed that lots of people discuss our icon
themes again. So, here is an opportunity to  really shine within the
project and enable artists to work on new themes.
I am not sure how much you know about the structure of our icon
themes, but it's a clusterfuck, quite frankly:
* odd icon names/competing naming schemes
* support for only two sizes (in practice those are 16*16 and 24*24)
* often hard-coded icon names in the code
* duplicates

So, we need someone to weed out the duplicates, to sort/categorise the
icons etc. There is some existing work at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Icon_Themes
that needs some TLC.

This bug might give some more hints:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30425

Astron.

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ape | 29 Feb 18:16 2012
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Re: Towards useful icon themes

Hi Stefan,
 I wrote that there is no icon in the error message
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46777) and suggest solutions.
I can not agree with you to create icons 24*24 px:
 - "Small" in themes "Tango" and "Industrial" - 22*22 px, has a transparent
frame in a one px, which increases the size of icons to 24*24 px;
 - Themes "Crystal" and "Oxygen" (KDE) use size 22*22 px.
 Please look at investing in an error - all icons LibreOffice MIME-type
(22*22) are inside the archive.
 Regards, Serg "ape".

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ape | 29 Feb 18:18 2012
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Re: Towards useful icon themes

Hi Stefan,
 I wrote that there is no icon in the error message
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46777) and suggest solutions.
I can not agree with you to create icons 24*24 px:
 - "Small" in themes "Tango" and "Industrial" - 22*22 px, has a transparent
frame in a one px, which increases the size of icons to 24*24 px;
 - Themes "Crystal" and "Oxygen" (KDE) use size 22*22 px.
 Please look at investing in an error - all icons LibreOffice MIME-type
(22*22) are inside the archive.
 Regards, Serg "ape".

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Stefan Knorr (Astron | 29 Feb 21:13 2012

Re: Re: Towards useful icon themes

Hi Ape,

>  I wrote that there is no icon in the error message
> (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46777) and suggest solutions.

I hope you agree that this is a slightly different thing: our branding
isn't yet complete.
It's a legitimate problem, and I'll just open a new thread about that.

> I can not agree with you to create icons 24*24 px:
>  - "Small" in themes "Tango" and "Industrial" - 22*22 px, has a transparent
> frame in a one px, which increases the size of icons to 24*24 px;
You're right, 24*24px was an oversimplification. Galaxy uses 26*26,
Tango uses 24*24 (with a useless 1px transparent border). Eventually
we should get rid of that useless border around our Tango icons, I
guess. There's nothing really stopping us from that, except that we
still ship too many Industrial icons in our Tango theme (and
Industrial actually uses 24*24 icons).

The point is, though, that we have hardcoded sc_ and lc_ prefixes in
most icon names (I guess those stand for "small colour" and "large
colour" or similar). Actually, we have also huge amounts of icons
using other prefixes or not using prefixes at all.)
Now, this usually only allows for two icon sizes in a theme
(occasionally it might allow for only one).
Yet for Android alone, we'll need three icon sizes; if we want a theme
that we can use on Android and on the desktop, that means we already
need five icon sizes. So, clearly, our current way of packaging themes
doesn't scale at all.

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ape | 1 Mar 10:39 2012
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Re: Towards useful icon themes

Hi Stefan,

/> I hope you agree that this is a slightly different thing: our branding
isn't yet complete. It's a legitimate problem, and I'll just open a new
thread about that./
Thank you. I think that this aspect should be solved as soon as possible.
LibreOffice registration in the OS Windows, contents of files LibO_win_x86
depend on how this issue resolved.

/> Galaxy uses 26*26/
Classic uses 26 * 26 as well. This Theme has somehow been forgotten, but it
has some good qualities:
 - It is the easiest (~ 1.9 MB uncompressed ZIP-archive) and well-suited for
low-end PCs;
 - It is created Sun_Microsystem and can not be subject to prosecution AOO
(copyright).
 By the way, I can post soon a beta version of Classic_LibO-3.5 (with only
two errors; <1.5 MB; en-US_&_ru-RU), which does not contain any icons from
the Galaxy.

/> Tango uses 24*24 (with a useless 1px transparent border). Eventually we
should get rid of that useless border around our Tango icons, I guess./
 I think that this is not correct. The empty frame is necessary for GnomeDE
(themes Tango\Gnome-2 and Industrial\Gnome-1). KDE and Windows Explorer draw
a empty frame yourself. Themes Oxygen\KDE-4 and Crystal\KDE-3 did not have
an empty frame, because they are designed for KDE.
 Regards, аре.

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