17 Jul 19:40
Re: Re: Some suggestions for GCM from Jeff Waugh
Philip Van Hoof <spamfrommailing <at> freax.org>
2003-07-17 17:40:30 GMT
2003-07-17 17:40:30 GMT
On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 15:51, Jeff Waugh wrote: **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 3 15:36:09 2003 Jul 03 15:38:53 <jdub> as in, getting it into the desktop release? it needs to be proposed for 2.6 when there's a request from proposals Jul 03 15:39:12 <Netsnipe> no one proposed gcm? = ) Jul 03 15:39:19 <Netsnipe> I thought some people just hated it Jul 03 15:39:39 <Netsnipe> it just seems weird that the clipboard in GNOME is still neglected Jul 03 15:39:50 <jdub> no one proposed it for 2.4 Thats wierd, I once proposed it for 2.4, but that was some time ago. I got some comments from people on the mailinglist that obviously never used gcm before and did not saw the use of it, and then suddenly I was to busy to focus myself on the gcm-project. (I was switching jobs). I remember that I even create a garball-thingy for gcm of which you explained me how to build it (or there must be two jdubs on irc.gimp.org). However, doesn't matter. I agree if you say that gcm is not ready for inclusion in GNOME Desktop... so it should not be included at all. Jul 03 15:40:05 <jdub> bob2: 2.4 is feature and module frozen Jul 03 15:40:30 <jdub> Netsnipe: the extended clipboard, yes. copy/paste works as expected. Jul 03 15:40:31 <gus> Netsnipe: the clipboard in gnome (mostly) works fine afaict Please note that the primary purpose of gcm is not to fix a clipboard but to add features to the clipboard like saving the clipboard data(Continue reading)
> Jul 03 16:33:28 <jdub> in the general tab (bad name?)
> Jul 03 16:33:33 <jdub> you have selection options
> Jul 03 16:33:48 <jdub> manage gnome clipboard / manage both / manage
> mouse selection
> Jul 03 16:33:57 <Netsnipe> jdub: still too complex?
> Jul 03 16:33:57 <jdub> what does that mean?
> Jul 03 16:34:03 <jdub> can't it "just work"?
>
> No it cannot just work.
>
> A lot of discussion have been generated in the gnome mailinglists about
> this feature. The simple fact is that the X protocol cannot cleanly
> support a clipboard manager that manages the mouse-selection correctly.
> Klipper and gcm do it all wrong, belive me. Polling the mouse-selection is
> the only way to get mouse-selection management working.
>
> This is why on gcm, the feature is turned off by default. And the default
> should stay off until the X protocol can support a clipboard manager for
> the mouse-selection.
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