Philip Van Hoof | 17 Jul 19:40

Re: Re: Some suggestions for GCM from Jeff Waugh

On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 15:51, Jeff Waugh wrote:

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Jul 03 15:38:53 <jdub>  as in, getting it into the desktop release? it
needs to be proposed for 2.6 when there's a request from proposals
Jul 03 15:39:12 <Netsnipe>      no one proposed gcm? = )
Jul 03 15:39:19 <Netsnipe>      I thought some people just hated it
Jul 03 15:39:39 <Netsnipe>      it just seems weird that the clipboard
in GNOME is still neglected
Jul 03 15:39:50 <jdub>  no one proposed it for 2.4

Thats wierd, I once proposed it for 2.4, but that was some time ago. I
got some comments from people on the mailinglist that obviously never
used gcm before and did not saw the use of it, and then suddenly I was
to busy to focus myself on the gcm-project. (I was switching jobs). I
remember that I even create a garball-thingy for gcm of which you
explained me how to build it (or there must be two jdubs on
irc.gimp.org). However, doesn't matter. I agree if you say that gcm is
not ready for inclusion in GNOME Desktop... so it should not be included
at all.

Jul 03 15:40:05 <jdub>  bob2: 2.4 is feature and module frozen
Jul 03 15:40:30 <jdub>  Netsnipe: the extended clipboard, yes.
copy/paste works as expected.
Jul 03 15:40:31 <gus>   Netsnipe: the clipboard in gnome (mostly) works
fine afaict

Please note that the primary purpose of gcm is not to fix a clipboard
but to add features to the clipboard like saving the clipboard data
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Jeff Waugh | 17 Jul 19:53
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Re: Re: Some suggestions for GCM from Jeff Waugh

<quote who="Philip Van Hoof">

> Jul 03 16:33:08 <jdub>  the prefs box looks like someone tried to higify
> it, but it just looks like cheese pizza with no meat
> 
> This is because I quick-ported it from Gnome/Gtk 1.x to Gnome/Gtk 2.x
> and because the UI is not created using glade.

Heh, that makes a lot of sense. ;-)

> Jul 03 16:33:28 <jdub>  in the general tab (bad name?)
> Jul 03 16:33:33 <jdub>  you have selection options
> Jul 03 16:33:48 <jdub>  manage gnome clipboard / manage both / manage
> mouse selection
> Jul 03 16:33:57 <Netsnipe>      jdub: still too complex?
> Jul 03 16:33:57 <jdub>  what does that mean?
> Jul 03 16:34:03 <jdub>  can't it "just work"?
> 
> No it cannot just work.
> 
> A lot of discussion have been generated in the gnome mailinglists about
> this feature. The simple fact is that the X protocol cannot cleanly
> support a clipboard manager that manages the mouse-selection correctly.
> Klipper and gcm do it all wrong, belive me. Polling the mouse-selection is
> the only way to get mouse-selection management working.
> 
> This is why on gcm, the feature is turned off by default. And the default
> should stay off until the X protocol can support a clipboard manager for
> the mouse-selection.

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