Discussion of gnome-print development

Nickolay V. Shmyrev | 10 Nov 2005 10:37

Re: New API questions

> > 3. Third. We had requests to print pages in reverse order. In older view
> > it was possible with "From ... to ..." entry by passing bigger page in
> > first spinner and smaller one in second. Now I see this control was
> > removed in CVS. Do you have any plans to implement such functionality.
> 
> The functionality is already in CVS. I've just not hooked it up yet.
> Will do so in the next couple of days.
> 

Ups, I haven't noticed it. I was playing with current CVS, but the
reverse checkbox is placed in the copies selector somehow and it's
not shown. 

Placement in copies looks strange for me. I'm not an usability expert
anyhow, but it seems that some other UI improvements to dialog usability
can be made. For example, label "n pages to 1" for me looks like
designed for programmers :) Will something like  "Several pages to one
..." better than the current label. Another very confusing thing is
"Even/Odd checkboxes". When I click on  "Even" and then on "Odd"
checkbox "Even" became selected. That's is certainly not what user
expects. I'd better use something like radio "Both, Even, Old". Actually
I wonder if all this advanced functionality can fit in one dialog.
Probably our usability list can say something or at least flame on it.
That is why I am asking is there some mockups for a new dialog or
another type of proposal. Sorry for above if you like present state ;)

> libgnomeprint(ui) was designed to take over the generation of
> PostScript/PDF/SVG/whatever data. If you use the gnome-print-API
> (gnome_print_moveto, gnome_print_fill...), libgnomeprint will be able to
> do lots of cool stuff:

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Lutz Müller | 10 Nov 2005 22:52

Re: New API questions

On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 12:37 +0300, Nickolay V. Shmyrev wrote: 
> Placement in copies looks strange for me. 

That's the KDE way. I just wanted to have it in the dialog. We can
certainly move it around.

> Will something like  "Several pages to one
> ..." better than the current label.

It's a bit long. How about 'Any page to 1'?

> I'd better use something like radio "Both, Even, Old". 

Radio buttons are so space consuming. Perhaps a menu with those entries?

> Actually I wonder if all this advanced functionality can fit in one dialog.

At least on several tabs. I'd like to add a colorspace selector, too
(b/W, gray, color). That's easy to implement in libgnomeprint (just a
filter that converts the colors to gray or black/white) and very useful.
But I don't know how to call it GUI-wise and where to place it.

> Probably our usability list can say something or at least flame on it.

Yes, please.

> That is why I am asking is there some mockups for a new dialog or
> another type of proposal.

There isn't even a website for libgnomeprint.

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Jim Evins | 11 Nov 2005 03:33

Re: New API questions

On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 22:52 +0100, Lutz Müller wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 12:37 +0300, Nickolay V. Shmyrev wrote: 
> > Placement in copies looks strange for me. 
> 
> That's the KDE way. I just wanted to have it in the dialog. We can
> certainly move it around.
> 
> > Will something like  "Several pages to one
> > ..." better than the current label.
> 
> It's a bit long. How about 'Any page to 1'?
> 
> > I'd better use something like radio "Both, Even, Old". 
> 
> Radio buttons are so space consuming. Perhaps a menu with those entries?
> 
> > Actually I wonder if all this advanced functionality can fit in one dialog.
> 
> At least on several tabs. I'd like to add a colorspace selector, too
> (b/W, gray, color). That's easy to implement in libgnomeprint (just a
> filter that converts the colors to gray or black/white) and very useful.
> But I don't know how to call it GUI-wise and where to place it.
> 
> > Probably our usability list can say something or at least flame on it.
> 
> Yes, please.
> 
> > That is why I am asking is there some mockups for a new dialog or
> > another type of proposal.
>

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