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Thomas | 20 Feb 03:53
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Re: compatibility, gtk+, Qt etc

first, since this is my first post to the list, hello

On Thursday 19 February 2004 05:09, Shawn wrote:
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> 1. fallbacks in libY (or whatever) that display Y programs' primitives
> using X11's $DISPLAY via Xlib (or whatever) via some translation
> framework. This would ensure a Y program can display wherever.
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I was just thinking about this myself.  Its been a while since i last read the 
documentation and code, but i dont remember compatibility in this manner 
being discussed.

as i said, its been a while since i last read the code, but i might be 
interested in working on this if people think it might be a good idea.

I am also interested in working on developing and expanding the widget set.

Thomas Stephens
spiralman <at> softhome.net

> So, what do you folks think? Have these ideas been explored?
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Matt Kurjanowicz | 20 Feb 04:05
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RE: compatibility, gtk+, Qt etc

Hi there,
This is my first post to the list as well - howdy the work looks really
good.

I am willing to help out on this (this would be my preferred area).

Also, what about trying from the get-go to get multi-platform compatibility
- like Mac, Windows etc?  I doubt that Mac should be too hard, but what
about windows?

What about some way to run Y on top of X?  This was discussed in an earlier
post.  Would this just require Y wrappers for to Xlib?
-Matt
Matt Kurjanowicz

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first, since this is my first post to the list, hello

On Thursday 19 February 2004 05:09, Shawn wrote:
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Mathy Vanvoorden | 20 Feb 11:52
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RE: compatibility, gtk+, Qt etc

Citeren Matt Kurjanowicz <mkurjano <at> cc.gatech.edu>:

> What about some way to run Y on top of X?  This was discussed in an earlier
> post.  Would this just require Y wrappers for to Xlib?

1. Start X
2. Open terminal
3. # startY
4. Observe :-)

Y uses SDL, which off course allready works in X.

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Shawn | 20 Feb 06:08

RE: compatibility, gtk+, Qt etc

(you wrote this in Outlook XP? For shame!) Anyway:

On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 22:05 -0500, Matt Kurjanowicz wrote:
> Also, what about trying from the get-go to get multi-platform compatibility
> - like Mac, Windows etc?  I doubt that Mac should be too hard, but what
> about windows?

Well, as far as supporting RDP and other non-native protocols, I
wouldn't know why. Maybe supporting NX compression at the Y protocol
level. To be honest, though, I don't think you'd have to if you upload
widgets and twiddle them remotely. It's the bitmap stuff that could
maybe use compression / transcoding plugin based system to get the
bandwidth minimized I guess. It would be nice to be able to tell Y
"bitmap_compression=jpeg" with a set of compression properties, or,
settings for all Y bitmap operations.

Y cannot be the one-true-windowing system for all platforms, as if it
tried, it would fail. It's a moving target, and it requires you to dumb
down your protocol just to fit within the sum total of all restrictions
placed on windowing by all the protocols you would want to support.

Basically, it's impossible by definition. X does almost as good a job at
cross platform as it gets so far. There is no other network transparent
windowing framework in wide use today with even half of the supported
platforms that X has. Sure, it's pretty much unix type OSes that have X
clients, and servers run everywhere, but other protocols are just not
analogous.

> What about some way to run Y on top of X?  This was discussed in an earlier
> post.  Would this just require Y wrappers for to Xlib?
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Shawn | 20 Feb 06:15

RE: compatibility, gtk+, Qt etc

On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 23:08 -0600, Shawn wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-02-19 at 22:05 -0500, Matt Kurjanowicz wrote:
> > What about some way to run Y on top of X?  This was discussed in an earlier
> > post.  Would this just require Y wrappers for to Xlib?

So, everything I just said... about equals me saying yes to your
question, I think? I guess it depends on just how you scope the term
"wrapper".

There... Finally a short manageable answer... Not unlike my military
haircut.
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Mark Magnusson | 20 Feb 04:12

Re: Compiling problems with sigc-config

i had to not only install the older version, but i had to hack up the 
./configure script as well. Just to get it to configure.. now lets hope 
it makes.
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