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Florian Boor | 24 Apr 00:53

New install files for N800

Hi,

I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental
repository. You can find them here:
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html

The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
- You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled
in automatically.
- It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before
installing the new bits.

Enjoy

Greetings

Florian

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Peter Bart | 24 Apr 01:18

Re: New install files for N800

On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 00:57 +0200, Florian Boor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental
> repository. You can find them here:
> http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html
> 
> The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
> - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled
> in automatically.
> - It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before
> installing the new bits.

	That includes all the asociated libraries as well. Other than that the
whole suite seems to work well! I've noticed that when changing the date
on the lower toolbar the day view changes correspond now. I'm eagerly
awaiting audible event alarms and sorting out the sync to Evolution.

Thanks Florian!  and Nels and Graham and...............

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George Farris | 24 Apr 06:42

Re: New install files for N800

On Mon, 2007-23-04 at 19:18 -0400, Peter Bart wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 00:57 +0200, Florian Boor wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental
> > repository. You can find them here:
> > http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html
> > 
> > The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
> > - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled
> > in automatically.
> > - It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before
> > installing the new bits.
> 
> 	That includes all the asociated libraries as well. Other than that the
> whole suite seems to work well! I've noticed that when changing the date
> on the lower toolbar the day view changes correspond now. I'm eagerly
> awaiting audible event alarms and sorting out the sync to Evolution.
> 
> Thanks Florian!  and Nels and Graham and...............
> 

Any chance of a EDS contact plugin so we can use EDS for contacts?

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Florian Boor | 25 Apr 01:08

Re: New install files for N800

Hi,

George Farris schrieb:

> Any chance of a EDS contact plugin so we can use EDS for contacts?

in theory yes... its quite common on several devices now, we should consider to
support it at least. I'm not sure if one of the currently active developers is
interested in working on this task, but if someone wants to work on this I can
offer help and a promise that patches are welcome.

Greetings

Florian

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Johan Helsingius | 24 Apr 11:47

Re: New install files for N800

Florian,

Any chance of a similar thing for the 770?

	Julf
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Peter Bart | 24 Apr 11:57

Re: New install files for N800

On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 11:47 +0200, Johan Helsingius wrote:
> Florian,
> 
> Any chance of a similar thing for the 770?
> 
> 	Julf

 Look here
<http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/gpe-list/2007-April/000321.html>
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Marius Vollmer | 24 Apr 12:46

Re: New install files for N800

"ext Florian Boor" <florian.boor <at> kernelconcepts.de> writes:

> The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:

> - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is
>   not pulled in automatically.

Why is this?  Could the Application Manager do something different to
make it work?
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Graham Cobb | 24 Apr 16:48

Re: New install files for N800

On Tuesday 24 April 2007 11:46, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> "ext Florian Boor" <florian.boor <at> kernelconcepts.de> writes:
> > The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
> >
> > - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is
> >   not pulled in automatically.
>
> Why is this?  Could the Application Manager do something different to
> make it work?

Actually I think it is just a packaging bug (my fault) -- it looks like I 
don't have that dependency in the package.  I will look into fixing it -- 
don't worry unless I report that I can't fix it!

Graham
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Graham Cobb | 8 May 18:27

Re: New install files for N800

On Tuesday 24 April 2007 11:46, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> "ext Florian Boor" <florian.boor <at> kernelconcepts.de> writes:
> > - You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is
> >   not pulled in automatically.
>
> Why is this?  Could the Application Manager do something different to
> make it work?

Marius,

The problem was caused by a packaging bug (mine), not a problem in the 
Application Manager.  However, while fixing this (and other) packaging bugs I 
did come across a couple of problems caused by restrictions in the 
Application Manager:

1) I had chosen the wrong names for some packages.  I have now created new 
packages with the new names but it is necessary to remove the broken packages 
in order to install the new ones.  I used the normal Debian idiom of 
specifying that the new packages Conflicts:, Replaces: and Provides: the old 
package.  apt-get then (correctly) removes the old package when asked to 
install the new package (either directly or as a result of a dependency).  
But the Application Manager just refuses to install the new package reporting 
conflicts with the old package.  Could the Application Manager do the same 
analysis as apt-get to decide how to complete the installation?

2) Because of the first problem I needed to tell people to remove the old 
packages first.  But these are library packages and are not visible (except 
in red pill mode).  If I tell them to remove the actual user applications 
involved, the application manager does not seem to remove the  dependencies.  
So I ended up telling them they had to use apt-get to remove the broken
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Marius Vollmer | 8 May 19:23

Re: New install files for N800

"ext Graham Cobb" <g+770 <at> cobb.uk.net> writes:

> 1) I had chosen the wrong names for some packages.  I have now
> created new packages with the new names but it is necessary to
> remove the broken packages in order to install the new ones.  I used
> the normal Debian idiom of specifying that the new packages
> Conflicts:, Replaces: and Provides: the old package.  apt-get then
> (correctly) removes the old package when asked to install the new
> package (either directly or as a result of a dependency).

Recent versions of the Application Manager do the same (but only for
Conflicts/Replaces, not for Conflicts alone).

I am being very careful with automatically removing packages in the
Application Manager (to resolve Conflicts) since it is easy to remove
too many and we don't want to expect the user to be experienced enough
to decide whether or not the removal is OK.

> 2) Because of the first problem I needed to tell people to remove
> the old packages first.  But these are library packages and are not
> visible (except in red pill mode).  If I tell them to remove the
> actual user applications involved, the application manager does not
> seem to remove the dependencies.

They _should_ get removed automatically when they have been installed
by the AM in the first place.  The AM keeps a list of automatically
installed packages in /var/lib/osso-application-installer/autoinst,
and when a user package is removed that depends on one these packages,
it should get removed as well.  If this doesn't work for you, I would
be happy to see the details.
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Dr.Nicholas | 27 Apr 15:05

Re: New install files for N800

Florian,

A couple of questions:

1.  I went to the link and downloaded the files.  I installed the 3.0 SDK but could not find the libmimedir-dnome1 package.  I'm guessing it's in the GPE Repository but the link is broken.

2.  I use the GPE PIM as my PIM.  If I uninstall the existing packages will I lose my data?  I have a lot of contacts and a lot of information in calendar.

Regards,

Nick Shaw.

On Mon Apr 23 16:57 , Florian Boor sent:

Hi,

I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental
repository. You can find them here:
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html

The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
- You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled
in automatically.
- It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before
installing the new bits.

Enjoy

Greetings

Florian

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<p>Florian,</p>
<p>A couple of questions:</p>
<p>1.&nbsp; I went to the link and downloaded the files.&nbsp; I installed the 3.0 SDK but could not find the libmimedir-dnome1 package.&nbsp; I'm guessing it's in the GPE Repository but the link is broken.</p>
<p>2.&nbsp; I use the GPE PIM as my PIM.&nbsp; If I uninstall the existing packages will I lose my data?&nbsp; I have a lot of contacts and a lot of information in calendar.</p>
<p>Regards,<br><br>
Nick Shaw.<br><br>On Mon Apr 23 16:57 , Florian Boor sent:<br><br></p>
<blockquote>Hi,<br><br>
I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental<br>
repository. You can find them here:<br><a href="parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Flinuxtogo.org%2F%7Eflorian%2Fmaemo%2Findex.html" target="_blank"><span>http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html</span></a><br><br>
The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:<br>
- You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled<br>
in automatically.<br>
- It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before<br>
installing the new bits.<br><br>
Enjoy<br><br>
Greetings<br><br>
Florian<br><br>
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Peter Bart | 28 Apr 00:23

Re: New install files for N800

On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 09:06 -0400, Dr.NicholasS wrote:
> Florian,
> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> 1.  I went to the link and downloaded the files.  I installed the 3.0
> SDK but could not find the libmimedir-dnome1 package.  I'm guessing
> it's in the GPE Repository but the link is broken.
> 
> 2.  I use the GPE PIM as my PIM.  If I uninstall the existing packages
> will I lose my data?  I have a lot of contacts and a lot of
> information in calendar.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Nick Shaw.

Hi Nick,
	I can answer this for you. You can do what Graham suggested. You can
also use the included backup utility on the 770 to backup all files,
this includes the GPE stuff. I've done this every time I've flashed to a
new OS version. On the restore cycle I usually restore all but the
email, it's given me trouble. I'll set that up manually.

Regards,

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Dr.Nicholas | 27 Apr 16:43

Re: New install files for N800

Florian,

I rooted around and found "libmimedir-gnome1_0svn20070331maemo_armel.deb.  I tried manually installing it through Application Manager (install from file) and it fails, e.g. "Unable to install libmimedir-gnome1". 

I wanted to be ready to install the PIM once I know all my data won't be wiped out. :-)

Thanks,

Nick Shaw.

On Fri Apr 27 7:06 , Dr.Nicholas Shaw sent:

Florian,

A couple of questions:

1.  I went to the link and downloaded the files.  I installed the 3.0 SDK but could not find the libmimedir-dnome1 package.  I'm guessing it's in the GPE Repository but the link is broken.

2.  I use the GPE PIM as my PIM.  If I uninstall the existing packages will I lose my data?  I have a lot of contacts and a lot of information in calendar.

Regards,

Nick Shaw.

On Mon Apr 23 16:57 , Florian Boor sent:

Hi,

I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental
repository. You can find them here:
http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html

The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:
- You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled
in automatically.
- It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before
installing the new bits.

Enjoy

Greetings

Florian

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<p>Florian,</p>
<p>I rooted around and found "libmimedir-gnome1_0svn20070331maemo_armel.deb.&nbsp; I tried manually installing it through Application Manager (install from file) and it fails, e.g. "Unable to install libmimedir-gnome1".&nbsp; </p>
<p>I wanted to be ready to install the PIM once I know all my data won't be wiped out. :-)</p>
<p>Thanks,<br><br>
Nick Shaw.<br><br>On Fri Apr 27 7:06 , Dr.Nicholas Shaw sent:<br><br></p>
<blockquote>
<p>Florian,</p>
<p>A couple of questions:</p>
<p>1.&nbsp; I went to the link and downloaded the files.&nbsp; I installed the 3.0 SDK but could not find the libmimedir-dnome1 package.&nbsp; I'm guessing it's in the GPE Repository but the link is broken.</p>
<p>2.&nbsp; I use the GPE PIM as my PIM.&nbsp; If I uninstall the existing packages will I lose my data?&nbsp; I have a lot of contacts and a lot of information in calendar.</p>
<p>Regards,<br><br>
Nick Shaw.<br><br>On Mon Apr 23 16:57 , Florian Boor sent:<br><br></p>
<blockquote>Hi,<br><br>
I created updated install files for the GPE bits in Graham's experimental<br>
repository. You can find them here:<br><a href="parse.pl?redirect=http://linuxtogo.org/%7Eflorian/maemo/index.html" target="_blank"><span>http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/maemo/index.html</span></a><br><br>
The applications seem to work, but I am aware of two issues:<br>
- You need to install the libmimedir-gnome1 package manually, it is not pulled<br>
in automatically.<br>
- It is necessary to remove all GPE packages from the old repositories before<br>
installing the new bits.<br><br>
Enjoy<br><br>
Greetings<br><br>
Florian<br><br>
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Graham Cobb | 27 Apr 23:39

Re: New install files for N800

On Friday 27 April 2007 15:45, Dr.Nicholas Shaw wrote:
> I rooted around and found "libmimedir-gnome1_0svn20070331maemo_armel.deb. 
> I tried manually installing it through Application Manager (install from
> file) and it fails, e.g. "Unable to install libmimedir-gnome1". 

I would be interested to know what the error is.  I am not sure if you can get 
the Application Manager to tell you but if you have an Xterm with root access 
can you try "dpkg -i <file>" and let me know what error you get (just send it 
to me -- no need to bother the list)?

I am currently working on the libmimedir-gnome and libsoup problems -- I hope 
to have updated kits some time over the weekend.  By the way, if anyone hits 
any packaging bugs with GPE please report them in the GPE bugzilla 
(http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/).

You will not lose your data if you uninstall GPE.  However, if you are at all 
worried the best thing to do is to use Xterm and copy the files in the ~/.gpe 
directory to somewhere safe.  For example:

cd && mkdir saved-gpe && cp .gpe/* saved-gpe/

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