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Carsten Munk | 11 Oct 2011 08:59

Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi all,

As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
the Tizen project, Mer, etc.

We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core

Some limitations:
* Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
UX (nor is anything)

All suggestions welcome!

BR
Carsten Munk

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Willem Liu | 11 Oct 2011 09:18

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

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(MeeGoMerTizen)

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Munk <carsten@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
> the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
> what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
> screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
> inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core
>
> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
> UX (nor is anything)
>
> All suggestions welcome!
>
> BR
> Carsten Munk
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Erik Stein | 11 Oct 2011 09:52

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


Meer
or
Meer Handset

or
"Meri", would be a joke of second order.

BR
-- erik

Am 11.10.2011 um 08:59 schrieb Carsten Munk:

> Hi all,
> 
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
> the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
> 
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
> what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
> screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
> inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core
> 
> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
> UX (nor is anything)
> 
> All suggestions welcome!

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Erik Stein | 11 Oct 2011 17:30

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


Let me add that "Meer" was a serious suggestion, meaning just "sea" in german, having the same
pronunciation as "mehr" which just means "more". Last but not least it keeps the most distinguishing
element of the "Meego" brand name, the arbitrary double e. All this may sound dadaistic, but I really like
it. Mer/Meer make sense for me.

-- erik

Am 11.10.2011 um 09:52 schrieb Erik Stein:

> Meer
> or
> Meer Handset
> 
> or
> "Meri", would be a joke of second order.
> 
> BR
> -- erik
> 
> 
> Am 11.10.2011 um 08:59 schrieb Carsten Munk:
> 
>> All suggestions welcome!

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Tim Samoff | 11 Oct 2011 17:49

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


Hi,

> Let me add that "Meer" was a serious suggestion, meaning just "sea"
> in german, having the same pronunciation as "mehr" which just means
> "more". Last but not least it keeps the most distinguishing element
> of the "Meego" brand name, the arbitrary double e. All this may sound
> dadaistic, but I really like it. Mer/Meer make sense for me.
> 

My only problem with "Meer" is that is sounds/looks like the english
"mere," which means, "being nothing more nor better than."

As a joke: In thinking about how long each of these communities actually
last, how about combining Tizen and Mer int "Timer." :p

(Ok, stop laughing and get back to the serious talk.)

Tim

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Robin Burchell | 11 Oct 2011 10:02

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Munk <carsten@...> wrote:
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
> what to call the Community Edition in the future.

I'd like to suggest a name I started using (at least on github, when
mirroring pieces of source off gitorious) the day after the
announcement: chive, or some variant of it, like chive mobile, etc.

The name is supposed to represent energy and life (chives are green,
and it can be pronounced similar to 'jive')

Plus, well, they make things tasty. ;)

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t.swindell | 11 Oct 2011 10:23

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

I like chive too, can't think of anything else off of the top of my head. But will think on it over today.

Thanks, Tom.On 11/10/2011 9:02 Robin Burchell wrote:
Hi,

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Munk <carsten@...> wrote:
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
> what to call the Community Edition in the future.

I'd like to suggest a name I started using (at least on github, when
mirroring pieces of source off gitorious) the day after the
announcement: chive, or some variant of it, like chive mobile, etc.

The name is supposed to represent energy and life (chives are green,
and it can be pronounced similar to 'jive')

Plus, well, they make things tasty. ;)
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nicola-z/ze0j/jXLmyN3pdpgSZBqicDR3qMxSs@public.gmane.org | 11 Oct 2011 11:19

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

i think that the new name must to be cool for peoples and not for geek.
Nicola

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Oggetto: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

> Hi all,

> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing

> the Tizen project, Mer, etc.

> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on

> what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash

> screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily

> inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core

> Some limitations:

> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.

> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer

> UX (nor is anything)

> All suggestions welcome!

> BR

> Carsten Munk

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> MeeGo-handset-VVXm0OgCXj10cC2WI2GV6A@public.gmane.org

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<br><div>&gt; Hi all,</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
<div>&gt; As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing</div>
<div>&gt; the Tizen project, Mer, etc.</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
<div>&gt; We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on</div>
<div>&gt; what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash</div>
<div>&gt; screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily</div>
<div>&gt; inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
<div>&gt; Some limitations:</div>
<div>&gt; * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.</div>
<div>&gt; * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer</div>
<div>&gt; UX (nor is anything)</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
<div>&gt; All suggestions welcome!</div>
<div>&gt; </div>
<div>&gt; BR</div>
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Dave Neary | 11 Oct 2011 11:22

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi Carsten,

On 10/11/2011 08:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
> UX (nor is anything)

Just to be clear, you are looking for a brand separate from Mer, and 
separate from MeeGo/Maemo and Tizen, which will represent a stack 
targeting smartphones/handsets?

I kind of like Mer as a brand, and Mer Handset has a ring to it.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Timo Härkönen | 11 Oct 2011 11:30

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

2011/10/11 Dave Neary <dneary-41UWDLvetLrYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>

Hi Carsten,

On 10/11/2011 08:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
Some limitations:
* Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
UX (nor is anything)

Just to be clear, you are looking for a brand separate from Mer, and separate from MeeGo/Maemo and Tizen, which will represent a stack targeting smartphones/handsets?

I kind of like Mer as a brand, and Mer Handset has a ring to it.

True but it's quite clear that Mer doesn't want to have any UX associated with it.

Anyway, my proposal: Comms

-Timo

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/11 Dave Neary <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dneary@...">dneary@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Hi Carsten,<div class="im">
<br><br>
On 10/11/2011 08:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Some limitations:<br>
* Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.<br>
* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer<br>
UX (nor is anything)<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Just to be clear, you are looking for a brand separate from Mer, and separate from MeeGo/Maemo and Tizen, which will represent a stack targeting smartphones/handsets?<br><br>
I kind of like Mer as a brand, and Mer Handset has a ring to it.<br>
</blockquote>
<div>
<br>True but it's quite clear that Mer doesn't want to have any UX associated with it.<br><br>Anyway, my proposal: Comms<br><br>
-Timo</div>
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Chris Samuel | 11 Oct 2011 12:33

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:

> All suggestions welcome!

A couple of the top of my head..

LibrePhone
Velocity
Cinnammon
Spice
MobileSpice

cheers,
Chris
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:

> All suggestions welcome!

A couple of the top of my head..

LibrePhone
Velocity
Cinnammon
Spice
MobileSpice

cheers,
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jeremias bosch | 11 Oct 2011 13:04

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On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:
All suggestions welcome!

Lets call it

-> Open. (with dot!)

It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.

and more as a joke how do you like: Open Opium...

- Jeremias

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    On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:201110112133.43122.chris@..." type="cite">
      On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:

      <blockquote type="cite">
        All suggestions welcome!

      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
    Lets call it <br><br><br>-&gt;&nbsp; Open.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (with dot!)<br><br><br>
    It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.<br><br><br><br><br>
    and more as a joke how do you like:&nbsp; Open Opium...<br><br>
    - Jeremias<br>

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jeremias bosch | 11 Oct 2011 15:02

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

... Personally I Like

Open Opium

even more. It has something cool :)

Carsten: Will you make a list of all this names?

- Jeremias

On 10/11/2011 01:04 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:

On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:
All suggestions welcome!

Lets call it

-> Open. (with dot!)

It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.

and more as a joke how do you like: Open Opium...

- Jeremias
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    ... Personally I Like <br><br>
    Open Opium <br><br>
    even more. It has something cool :)<br><br>
    Carsten: Will you make a list of all this names?<br><br>
    - Jeremias<br><br>
    On 10/11/2011 01:04 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:4E9422D7.6090605@..." type="cite">

      On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
      <blockquote cite="mid:201110112133.43122.chris@..." type="cite">
        On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:

        <blockquote type="cite">
          All suggestions welcome!

        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
      Lets call it <br><br><br>-&gt;&nbsp;  Open. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (with dot!) <br><br><br>
      It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.<br><br><br><br><br>
      and more as a joke how do you like:&nbsp; Open Opium...<br><br>
      - Jeremias<br>

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nicola-z/ze0j/jXLmyN3pdpgSZBqicDR3qMxSs@public.gmane.org | 11 Oct 2011 15:11

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

> ... Personally I Like

> Open Opium

+1

even more. It has something cool :)

Carsten: Will you make a list of all this names?

- Jeremias

On 10/11/2011 01:04 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:

On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:
All suggestions welcome!

Lets call it

-> Open. (with dot!)

It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.

and more as a joke how do you like: Open Opium...

- Jeremias
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<div>Hi,<br><br><div class="xam_msg_class">

  

  

    &gt; ... Personally I Like <br><br>
    &gt; Open Opium <br><br>+1<br><br><br>
    even more. It has something cool :)<br><br>
    Carsten: Will you make a list of all this names?<br><br>
    - Jeremias<br><br>
    On 10/11/2011 01:04 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:4E9422D7.6090605@..." type="cite">

      On 10/11/2011 12:33 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
      <blockquote cite="mid:201110112133.43122.chris@..." type="cite">
        On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 05:59:55 PM Carsten Munk wrote:

        <blockquote type="cite">
          All suggestions welcome!

        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>
      Lets call it <br><br><br>-&gt;&nbsp;  Open. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (with dot!) <br><br><br>
      It says what it is, simple, short, obviously true.<br><br><br><br><br>
      and more as a joke how do you like:&nbsp; Open Opium...<br><br>
      - Jeremias<br>
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Hillel Lubman | 11 Oct 2011 15:18

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I like Cinnamon proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.

For example:

Gulfstream [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step without some TM issues :)]
Marineris (play on sound of Mariner and OS).

and etc.

Regards,

Hillel.

On 10/11/2011 02:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:

All suggestions welcome! BR Carsten Munk

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    I like Cinnamon proposed before. But if you want to continue
    the Mer idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.<br><br>
    For example:<br><br>
      Gulfstream [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a
    step without some TM issues :)]<br>Marineris (play on sound of Mariner and OS).<br><br>
    and etc.<br><br>
    Regards,<br><br>
    Hillel.<br><br>
    On 10/11/2011 02:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:CAK=iLrnvw6vRNmTe2hdBCkLsGbYj+EesJ2QptxkkhGnMHo_v6Q@..." type="cite">

All suggestions welcome!

BR
Carsten Munk

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jeremias bosch | 11 Oct 2011 15:22

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:

I like Cinnamon proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer idea, while not using the name -

take something sea related.

I can support that thinking too, good point...

For example:

Gulfstream [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step without some TM issues :)]
Marineris (play on sound of Mariner and OS).

and etc.

Regards,

Hillel.

On 10/11/2011 02:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
All suggestions welcome! BR Carsten Munk

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    On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:4E944229.1080005@..." type="cite">

      I like Cinnamon proposed before. But if you want to
      continue the Mer idea, while not using the name -</blockquote>
    <br><br><blockquote cite="mid:4E944229.1080005@..." type="cite"> take
      something sea related.<br>
</blockquote>
    I can support that thinking too, good point...<br><blockquote cite="mid:4E944229.1080005@..." type="cite"> <br>
      For example:<br><br>
        Gulfstream [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make
      a step without some TM issues :)]<br>Marineris (play on sound of Mariner and OS).<br><br>
      and etc.<br><br>
      Regards,<br><br>
      Hillel.<br><br>
      On 10/11/2011 02:59 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
      <blockquote cite="mid:CAK=iLrnvw6vRNmTe2hdBCkLsGbYj+EesJ2QptxkkhGnMHo_v6Q@..." type="cite">
        All suggestions welcome!

BR
Carsten Munk

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Steffen Imhof | 11 Oct 2011 16:05

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:
> I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer
> idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.
>
> For example:
> *
> Gulfstream* [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step
> without some TM issues :)]
> *Marineris* (play on sound of Mariner and OS).

Hmm, ocean sunfish are cool, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae.
Mola or Molid might actually be usable name. On the other hand they are 
kind of slow and unwieldy 

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Krzysztof Kuska | 11 Oct 2011 16:25

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

I would vote for something which is connected with openess

2011/10/11 Steffen Imhof <steffen.imhof-uVK8PQosd70b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>

On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:

I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer

idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.

For example:

*
Gulfstream* [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step

without some TM issues :)]

*Marineris* (play on sound of Mariner and OS).

Hmm, ocean sunfish are cool, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae.
Mola or Molid might actually be usable name. On the other hand they are kind of slow and unwieldy

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<p>I would vote for something which is connected with openess<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/11 Steffen Imhof <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:steffen.imhof@...">steffen.imhof@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">
I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer<div class="im">
<br>
idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.<br><br>
For example:<br>
</div>
*<br>
Gulfstream* [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step<div class="im">
<br>
without some TM issues :)]<br>
</div>
*Marineris* (play on sound of Mariner and OS).<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Hmm, ocean sunfish are cool, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae</a>.<br>
Mola or Molid might actually be usable name. On the other hand they are kind of slow and unwieldy <br><br>
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Hillel Lubman | 11 Oct 2011 16:27

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

May be something simple as OpenSea?-)

Hillel.

On 10/11/2011 10:25 AM, Krzysztof Kuska wrote:

I would vote for something which is connected with openess

2011/10/11 Steffen Imhof <steffen.imhof-uVK8PQosd70b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org>

On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:

I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you want to continue the Mer

idea, while not using the name - take something sea related.

For example:

*
Gulfstream* [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't make a step

without some TM issues :)]

*Marineris* (play on sound of Mariner and OS).

Hmm, ocean sunfish are cool, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae.
Mola or Molid might actually be usable name. On the other hand they are kind of slow and unwieldy

<div>
    May be something simple as OpenSea?-)<br><br>
    Hillel.<br><br>
    On 10/11/2011 10:25 AM, Krzysztof Kuska wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:CAAUwEYr6MiX3j+YBEChLmPDYcNwNNrq0Cyq2uVUXfdJB=TXx_g@..." type="cite">I would vote for something which is connected with
      openess<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/11 Steffen Imhof <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steffen.imhof@...">steffen.imhof@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
          <div class="im">On 10/11/2011 03:18 PM, Hillel Lubman wrote:<br>
</div>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote">
            I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you want to
            continue the Mer
            <div class="im">
<br>
              idea, while not using the name - take something sea
              related.<br><br>
              For example:<br>
</div>
            *<br>
            Gulfstream* [no idea about TM problems, sorry, you can't
            make a step
            <div class="im">
<br>
              without some TM issues :)]<br>
</div>
            *Marineris* (play on sound of Mariner and OS).<br>
</blockquote>
          <br>
          Hmm, ocean sunfish are cool, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molidae</a>.<br>
          Mola or Molid might actually be usable name. On the other hand
          they are kind of slow and unwieldy <br><br>
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Chris Samuel | 12 Oct 2011 01:45

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, 00:18:33 EST, Hillel Lubman
<shtetldik@...> wrote:

> I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you
> want to continue the Mer idea, while not using
> the name - take something sea related.

Probably won't pass the guidelines, but MerMade ? 

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Tim Samoff | 11 Oct 2011 16:32

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a
tendency to sit differently with different people.)

Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (http://thechive.com/).

Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...

In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:

Sesame

Br,
Tim

Carsten Munk wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,
> introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
> 
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the
> Mer Core
> 
> Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such
> as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's
> a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)
> 
> All suggestions welcome!
> 
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Krzysztof Kuska | 11 Oct 2011 16:42

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Agree, for me opium sound bad. Wouldn't like to have it on my phone ;)

2011/10/11 Tim Samoff <tim-9WDw1zoivO7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a
tendency to sit differently with different people.)

Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (http://thechive.com/).

Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...

In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:

Sesame

Br,
Tim

Carsten Munk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,
> introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the
> Mer Core
>
> Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such
> as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's
> a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)
>
> All suggestions welcome!
>
> BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________
> MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset-VVXm0OgCXj10cC2WI2GV6A@public.gmane.org
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<p>Agree, for me opium sound bad. Wouldn't like to have it on my phone ;)<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/11 Tim Samoff <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tim@...">tim@...</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">

Hi,<br><br>
Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible<br>
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a<br>
tendency to sit differently with different people.)<br><br>
Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (<a href="http://thechive.com/" target="_blank">http://thechive.com/</a>).<br><br>
Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...<br><br>
In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:<br><br>
Sesame<br><br>
Br,<br>
Tim<br><div>
<div></div>
<div class="h5">
<br><br><br>
Carsten Munk wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,<br>
&gt; introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas<br>
&gt; on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our<br>
&gt; splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be<br>
&gt; increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the<br>
&gt; Mer Core<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such<br>
&gt; as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's<br>
&gt; a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; All suggestions welcome!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; MeeGo-handset mailing list <a href="mailto:MeeGo-handset@....com">MeeGo-handset@...</a><br>
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Saxena, Sunil | 12 Oct 2011 17:42

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

I can attend if you like. I do know there are other folks from Yocto project who will be attending as well.

Thanks

Sunil

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Agree, for me opium sound bad. Wouldn't like to have it on my phone ;)

2011/10/11 Tim Samoff <tim-9WDw1zoivO7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi,

Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a
tendency to sit differently with different people.)

Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (http://thechive.com/).

Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...

In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:

Sesame

Br,
Tim

Carsten Munk wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,
> introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the
> Mer Core
>
> Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such
> as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's
> a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)
>
> All suggestions welcome!
>
> BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________
> MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset-VVXm0OgCXj10cC2WI2GV6A@public.gmane.org
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I can attend if you like.&nbsp; I do know there are other folks from Yocto project who will be attending as well.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Thanks</span><span><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sunil</span><span><p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
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<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span> meego-handset-bounces@...ego.com [mailto:meego-handset-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Krzysztof Kuska<br>Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:42 AM<br>To: tim@...<br>Cc: meego-handset@...<br>Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community discussion<p></p></span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Agree, for me opium sound bad. Wouldn't like to have it on my phone ;)<p></p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2011/10/11 Tim Samoff &lt;<a href="mailto:tim@...">tim@...</a>&gt;<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br><br>Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible<br>negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a<br>tendency to sit differently with different people.)<br><br>Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (<a href="http://thechive.com/" target="_blank">http://thechive.com/</a>).<br><br>Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...<br><br>In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:<br><br>Sesame<br><br>Br,<br>Tim<p></p></p>
<div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>Carsten Munk wrote:<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,<br>&gt; introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas<br>&gt; on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our<br>&gt; splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be<br>&gt; increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the<br>&gt; Mer Core<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such<br>&gt; as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's<br>&gt; a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; All suggestions welcome!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________<br>&gt; MeeGo-handset mailing list <a href="mailto:MeeGo-handset@...">MeeGo-handset@...</a><br>&gt; <a href="http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset" target="_blank">http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset</a><p></p></p></div></div>
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jeremias bosch | 11 Oct 2011 16:55

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 04:32 PM, Tim Samoff wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible
> negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a
> tendency to sit differently with different people.)
ack.true
> Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (http://thechive.com/).
>
> Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...
>
> In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:

> Sesame
i think its already used.

To stay in the sense of mer - water - sea names like Open Ocean, are 
popping in my mind. Anyway you may still just want to call it

open     without any second word, letter, and so on... (which makes it 
even more open in some point)

-Jeremias
> Br,
> Tim
>
>
>
> Carsten Munk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,
>> introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>>
>> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
>> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
>> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
>> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the
>> Mer Core
>>
>> Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such
>> as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's
>> a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)
>>
>> All suggestions welcome!
>>
>> BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________
>> MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@...
>> http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset

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martin brook | 11 Oct 2011 17:10

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

ännu

when put with Mer

ännu mer - Even More

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:55 PM, jeremias bosch <jeremias.bosch-uVK8PQosd70b1SvskN2V4Q@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On 10/11/2011 04:32 PM, Tim Samoff wrote:
Hi,

Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a
tendency to sit differently with different people.)

ack.true

Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (http://thechive.com/).

Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...

In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:

Sesame

i think its already used.

To stay in the sense of mer - water - sea names like Open Ocean, are popping in my mind. Anyway you may still just want to call it

open without any second word, letter, and so on... (which makes it even more open in some point)

-Jeremias

Br,
Tim

Carsten Munk wrote:
Hi all,

As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,
introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.

We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the
Mer Core

Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such
as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's
a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)

All suggestions welcome!

BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________
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<div class="im">On 10/11/2011 04:32 PM, Tim Samoff wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Hi,<br><br>
Not a big fan of Open Opium... I think that using that has a possible<br>
negative connotation can ostracize some people. (Drug names have a<br>
tendency to sit differently with different people.)<br>
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ack.true<div class="im">
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Chive is already a "brand" in some regards (<a href="http://thechive.com/" target="_blank">http://thechive.com/</a>).<br><br>
Imho, Cinnamon isn't bad, but...<br><br>
In thinking of the "Open." suggestion (which I sort of like), how about:<br>
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Sesame<br>
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i think its already used.<br><br>
To stay in the sense of mer - water - sea names like Open Ocean, are popping in my mind. Anyway you may still just want to call it<br><br>
open &nbsp; &nbsp; without any second word, letter, and so on... (which makes it even more open in some point)<br><br>
-Jeremias<div class="im">
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Br,<br>
Tim<br><br><br><br>
Carsten Munk wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
Hi all,<br><br>
As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo,<br>
introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc.<br><br>
We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas<br>
on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our<br>
splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be<br>
increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the<br>
Mer Core<br><br>
Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such<br>
as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's<br>
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Quim Gil | 11 Oct 2011 18:13

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/10/2011 11:59 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
 > We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
 > what to call the Community Edition in the future.

Mermate

A good mate of Mer.
Sounds like mermaid and you can even have one as logo if you wish.
Mer design traditionally had underwater references.

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Ruediger Gad | 11 Oct 2011 18:50

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:13:32 -0700
Quim Gil <quim.gil@...> wrote:

> On 10/10/2011 11:59 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
>  > We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
>  > what to call the Community Edition in the future.
> 
> Mermate
> 
> A good mate of Mer.
> Sounds like mermaid and you can even have one as logo if you wish.
> Mer design traditionally had underwater references.
> 

+1
I think "Mermate" is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho.
Why not go the whole way and call it "Mermaid"?

Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused.
If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about "Meermate" or even
"Meermaid" or is the sounding still too close to "mere"?

Ruediger

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Tim Samoff | 11 Oct 2011 18:52

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

> Mermate
> 

Not bad, except that, imo, it harkens to an _application_ that would run
on top of Mer (e.g., TextMate).

Also, it has a sort of Plam-ish application ring to it... Don't know why.

Lastly, it sounds pre-millennial in some regards (I remember a lot of
applications like this coming out back in the day).

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Hillel Lubman | 11 Oct 2011 19:24

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

+1 for Mermaid. Double e would look a bit unnatural there for English speakers IMO.

Regards,

Hillel.

On 10/11/2011 12:50 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:

+1 I think "Mermate" is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho. Why not go the whole way and call it "Mermaid"? Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused. If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about "Meermate" or even "Meermaid" or is the sounding still too close to "mere"? Ruediger _______________________________________________

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    +1 for Mermaid. Double e would look a bit unnatural there
    for English speakers IMO.<br><br>
    Regards,<br><br>
    Hillel.<br><br>
    On 10/11/2011 12:50 PM, Ruediger Gad wrote:<br><blockquote cite="mid:20111011185006.644793e8 <at> WOPR" type="cite">

+1
I think "Mermate" is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho.
Why not go the whole way and call it "Mermaid"?

Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused.
If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about "Meermate" or even
"Meermaid" or is the sounding still too close to "mere"?

Ruediger

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Foster, Dawn M | 11 Oct 2011 19:40

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:13:32 -0700
> Quim Gil <quim.gil@...> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/10/2011 11:59 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
>>> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
>>> what to call the Community Edition in the future.
>> 
>> Mermate
>> 
>> A good mate of Mer.
>> Sounds like mermaid and you can even have one as logo if you wish.
>> Mer design traditionally had underwater references.
>> 
> 
> +1
> I think "Mermate" is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho.
> Why not go the whole way and call it "Mermaid"?
> 
> Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused.
> If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about "Meermate" or even
> "Meermaid" or is the sounding still too close to "mere"?

I like the variants of Mermaid. I'd avoid Mermaid itself because you want something
unique that doesn't get lost in Google amongst Little Mermaid discussions. You 
want people to be able to find it easily in a search.

My favorite is Quim's original Mermate, but with Meermate as close second.

Naming is hard :)

Dawn

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jeremias bosch | 11 Oct 2011 21:11

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 07:40 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Ruediger Gad wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 09:13:32 -0700
>> Quim Gil<quim.gil@...>  wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/10/2011 11:59 PM, ext Carsten Munk wrote:
>>>> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
>>>> what to call the Community Edition in the future.
>>> Mermate
>>>
>>> A good mate of Mer.
>>> Sounds like mermaid and you can even have one as logo if you wish.
>>> Mer design traditionally had underwater references.
>>>
>> +1
>> I think "Mermate" is pretty cool. Also the logo idea is great imho.
>> Why not go the whole way and call it "Mermaid"?
>>
>> Mer vs. Meer is not distinct enough in my opinion and could be easily confused.
>> If the double 'e' needs to be kept one could think about "Meermate" or even
>> "Meermaid" or is the sounding still too close to "mere"?
> I like the variants of Mermaid. I'd avoid Mermaid itself because you want something
> unique that doesn't get lost in Google amongst Little Mermaid discussions. You
> want people to be able to find it easily in a search.
>
> My favorite is Quim's original Mermate, but with Meermate as close second.
>
> Naming is hard :)
>
Yep, ...What do you think about

Mermade

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Quim Gil | 11 Oct 2011 22:24

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, ext jeremias bosch wrote:
> Yep, ...What do you think about
>
> Mermade

Even better than mermate! Softer sound, closer to mermaid and with an 
additional meaning.

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Tim Samoff | 12 Oct 2011 18:06

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Hi,

>> Mermade
> 

This name makes me think again of the poster I mocked-up back in 2009:

http://samoff.com/random/mer/samoff-mer_wallpaper_001.png

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Chris Samuel | 13 Oct 2011 00:30

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 03:06:06 EST, Tim Samoff <tim@...> wrote:

> This name makes me think again of the poster
> I mocked-up back in 2009:

Nice! Reminds me of Grendel from the Beowulf
saga (beloved by those of us in HPC).

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Niels Mayer | 12 Oct 2011 18:22

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@...> wrote:
> On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, ext jeremias bosch wrote:
>>
>> Yep, ...What do you think about
>>
>> Mermade

Well, it's a better name than "Siren"  A sweet song luring
developers to their death on rocky shores...

How about a "Mer" derivative : Meerkat

See http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/15255085 ... not only a good name but
also a good mascot. 

> "The meerkats showed more vigilance when their expectations were violated,"
> explained Dr Townsend. "They would stop foraging, orientate their ears towards
> the violation, or look in that direction."

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Si Howard | 13 Oct 2011 03:37

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

What about Lemur? Meerkats get all the attention?

On 12/10/2011 17:22, Niels Mayer wrote:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, ext jeremias bosch wrote:
Yep, ...What do you think about Mermade

Well, it's a better name than "Siren" A sweet song luring developers to their death on rocky shores... How about a "Mer" derivative : Meerkat See http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/15255085 ... not only a good name but also a good mascot.
"The meerkats showed more vigilance when their expectations were violated," explained Dr Townsend. "They would stop foraging, orientate their ears towards the violation, or look in that direction."
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    What about Lemur? Meerkats
      get all the attention?<br><br>
    On 12/10/2011 17:22, Niels Mayer wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:CAA3FJbtf-eO6dT_==KAyU7vGBf6q1gegGcfiU8rZ16OEZTsUKg@..." type="cite">
      On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Quim Gil <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:quim.gil@...">&lt;quim.gil@...&gt;</a> wrote:

      <blockquote type="cite">
        On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, ext jeremias bosch wrote:

        <blockquote type="cite">

Yep, ...What do you think about

Mermade

        </blockquote>
      </blockquote>

Well, it's a better name than "Siren"  A sweet song luring
developers to their death on rocky shores...

How about a "Mer" derivative : Meerkat

See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/15255085">http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/15255085</a> ... not only a good name but
also a good mascot. 

      <blockquote type="cite">
        "The meerkats showed more vigilance when their expectations were violated,"
explained Dr Townsend. "They would stop foraging, orientate their ears towards
the violation, or look in that direction."

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Ruediger Gad | 11 Oct 2011 22:40

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:11:27 +0200
jeremias bosch <jeremias.bosch@...> wrote:

> On 10/11/2011 07:40 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
> > I like the variants of Mermaid. I'd avoid Mermaid itself because you want
> > something unique that doesn't get lost in Google amongst Little Mermaid
> > discussions. You want people to be able to find it easily in a search.
> >
> > My favorite is Quim's original Mermate, but with Meermate as close second.
> >
> > Naming is hard :)
> >
> Yep, ...What do you think about
> 
> Mermade
> 

Sounds cool as well. Inspired by Dawns "google argument" I did a quick google
check with the following results:

mermate: 38.500 results
meermate: 2.960 results
mermaid: 89.600.000 results, also some "brands" seem to use this as well
meermaid: 98.300 results, but there seem to be some other sites using
"meermaid" -> www.meermaid.de www.meermaid.at (not related to each other)
mermade: 136.000, again there are some existing web pages etc. using that name
meermade: 7.120, one other site is using this one

I really like this idea because of some reasons:
It is purposely ambiguous.
The logo would be quite nice imho.
The ambiguities are generally associated with something positive or good.

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:11:27 +0200
jeremias bosch <jeremias.bosch@...> wrote:

> On 10/11/2011 07:40 PM, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
> > I like the variants of Mermaid. I'd avoid Mermaid itself because you want
> > something unique that doesn't get lost in Google amongst Little Mermaid
> > discussions. You want people to be able to find it easily in a search.
> >
> > My favorite is Quim's original Mermate, but with Meermate as close second.
> >
> > Naming is hard :)
> >
> Yep, ...What do you think about
> 
> Mermade
> 

Sounds cool as well. Inspired by Dawns "google argument" I did a quick google
check with the following results:

mermate: 38.500 results
meermate: 2.960 results
mermaid: 89.600.000 results, also some "brands" seem to use this as well
meermaid: 98.300 results, but there seem to be some other sites using
"meermaid" -> www.meermaid.de www.meermaid.at (not related to each other)
mermade: 136.000, again there are some existing web pages etc. using that name
meermade: 7.120, one other site is using this one

I really like this idea because of some reasons:
It is purposely ambiguous.
The logo would be quite nice imho.
The ambiguities are generally associated with something positive or good.

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Andy Ross | 11 Oct 2011 22:51

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:
> Yep, ...What do you think about
>
> Mermade

Looks like "mermaid juice" to an american.

Andy

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Luis Araujo | 11 Oct 2011 23:04

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

What about 'Mar' ?

Spanish word for Sea .....

Inside the "Mar" we find Mer ..... :)

Cheers,

On 10/11/2011 04:21 PM, Andy Ross wrote:
> On 10/11/2011 12:11 PM, jeremias bosch wrote:
>> Yep, ...What do you think about
>>
>> Mermade
>
> Looks like "mermaid juice" to an american.
>
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Si Howard | 11 Oct 2011 18:50

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I like the name MaeRes = Maemo Resurrected a reflection of Maemo Resurrection (Mer) or another one I've been toying with MaeGo? The contraction of the two previous projects. I'm sure I can come up with more later :D

On 11/10/2011 07:59, Carsten Munk wrote:

Hi all, As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing the Tizen project, Mer, etc. We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core Some limitations: * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc. * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything) All suggestions welcome! BR Carsten Munk _______________________________________________ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset-VVXm0OgCXj10cC2WI2GV6A@public.gmane.org http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset

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    I like the name MaeRes =
      Maemo Resurrected a reflection of Maemo Resurrection (Mer)
    or another one I've been toying with MaeGo? The contraction of the
    two previous projects. I'm sure I can come up with more later :D<br><br>
    On 11/10/2011 07:59, Carsten Munk wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:CAK=iLrnvw6vRNmTe2hdBCkLsGbYj+EesJ2QptxkkhGnMHo_v6Q@..." type="cite">
      Hi all,

As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
the Tizen project, Mer, etc.

We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core

Some limitations:
* Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
UX (nor is anything)

All suggestions welcome!

BR
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Tim Samoff | 11 Oct 2011 18:58

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What about reversing Mer = Rem ?

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Nicolai Hess | 11 Oct 2011 19:26

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Stick with maemos wind codenames?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds
Zonda
Monsoon

or more powerful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Weather_hazards

blizzard
hazard
thunderstorm

<div><p>Stick with maemos wind codenames?<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds</a><br>Zonda<br>Monsoon<br><br>or more powerful <br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Weather_hazards">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Weather_hazards</a><br><br>blizzard<br>hazard<br>thunderstorm<br><br></p></div>

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vesa | 12 Oct 2011 09:23

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


On 11.10.2011, at 20:26, ext Nicolai Hess wrote:

> Stick with maemos wind codenames?

 Tuuli.

 It means wind in finnish.

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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:31

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I would +1 for that, would make it nice to pronounce and with presence
on discussions :)

-Sivan

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>
> On 11.10.2011, at 20:26, ext Nicolai Hess wrote:
>
>> Stick with maemos wind codenames?
>
>  Tuuli.
>
>  It means wind in finnish.
>
> BR,
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Quim Gil | 12 Oct 2011 18:24

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/12/2011 04:31 AM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>>> Stick with maemos wind codenames?

Since Community Edition is not Masemo, that would be a good reason to 
actually avoid wind codenames.

And about Finnish names in general, I would also avoid them unless 
Community Edition wants to nurture a vague association with Nokia. I 
know this comment is totally unfair for Finnish language lovers but I 
believe this is what it is in this context.

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Tim Samoff | 12 Oct 2011 18:51

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

Quim Gil wrote:
> Since Community Edition is not Masemo, that would be a good reason
> to actually avoid wind codenames.
> 

I agree. If code names are required, I suggest types of storms:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm#Types

It references the old naming structure while remaining obtuse enough to
be different. And, names like Cyclone, Typhoon, Firestorm, etc. are just
cool. ;)

Tim

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Ritesh Patel | 12 Oct 2011 23:03

Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

How about Moken?

The Moken 'are an Austronesian ethnic group ... who maintain a nomadic, sea-based culture' [1].

This is a mobile community; mobile in two senses a) it's a community built around mobile phone devices, b) it's a community that has had a nomadic existence, from inernettablettalk -> maemo.org -> (mer->) meego -> mer. But most of all it's about community.

That got me thinking about nomadic communities, and then all the talk about the sea made me look up sea gypsies [2]. Wikipedia threw up a few options, of which Moken seemed the best fit to me.

You've got mer (the sea) that is the core, and then you have a sea based culture living on top of it, which would be the Community Edition.

Regards,

Ritesh Patel (aka mrsellout)

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moken
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gypsies

> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:51:50 -0700
> From: tim-9WDw1zoivO7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
> To: quim.gil-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org
> CC: meego-handset <at> lists.meego.com
> Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community discussion
>
> Hi,
>
> Quim Gil wrote:
> > Since Community Edition is not Masemo, that would be a good reason
> > to actually avoid wind codenames.
> >
>
> I agree. If code names are required, I suggest types of storms:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm#Types
>
> It references the old naming structure while remaining obtuse enough to
> be different. And, names like Cyclone, Typhoon, Firestorm, etc. are just
> cool. ;)
>
> Tim
>
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<div><div dir="ltr">
Hi,<br><br>How about Moken?<br><br>The Moken 'are an Austronesian ethnic group ... who maintain a nomadic, sea-based culture' [1].<br><br>This is a mobile community; mobile in two senses a) it's a community built around mobile phone devices, b) it's a community that has had a nomadic existence, from inernettablettalk -&gt; maemo.org -&gt; (mer-&gt;) meego -&gt; mer.&nbsp; But most of all it's about community.<br><br>That got me thinking about nomadic communities, and then all the talk about the sea made me look up sea gypsies [2]. Wikipedia threw up a few options, of which Moken seemed the best fit to me. <br><br>You've got mer (the sea) that is the core, and then you have a sea based culture living on top of it, which would be the Community Edition. <br><br>Regards,<br><br>Ritesh Patel (aka mrsellout)<br><br>&nbsp;[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moken<br>&nbsp;[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gypsies<br><br><br><br><div>&gt; Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:51:50 -0700<br>&gt; From: tim@...<br>&gt; To: quim.gil@...<br>&gt; CC: meego-handset <at> lists.meego.com<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community	discussion<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Quim Gil wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Since Community Edition is not Masemo, that would be a good reason<br>&gt; &gt; to actually avoid wind codenames.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; I agree. If code names are required, I suggest types of storms:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm#Types<br>&gt; <br>&gt; It references the old naming structure while remaining obtuse enough to<br>&gt; be different. And, names like Cyclone, Typhoon, Firestorm, etc. are just<br>&gt; cool. ;)<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Tim<br>&gt; <br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; http://samoff.com<br>&gt; <br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; MeeGo-handset mailing list<br>&gt; MeeGo-handset@...com<br>&gt; http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset<br>
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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 23:25

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi!

 Since we've compiled a list of proposed names, please send the
proposed names from now on to either me (address in thread) or the
Thomas, his address also on this thread as we both have posted,
instead of sending it to the ML.

Thank you!

-Sivan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Ritesh Patel <rit78@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How about Moken?
>
> The Moken 'are an Austronesian ethnic group ... who maintain a nomadic,
> sea-based culture' [1].
>
> This is a mobile community; mobile in two senses a) it's a community built
> around mobile phone devices, b) it's a community that has had a nomadic
> existence, from inernettablettalk -> maemo.org -> (mer->) meego -> mer.  But
> most of all it's about community.
>
> That got me thinking about nomadic communities, and then all the talk about
> the sea made me look up sea gypsies [2]. Wikipedia threw up a few options,
> of which Moken seemed the best fit to me.
>
> You've got mer (the sea) that is the core, and then you have a sea based
> culture living on top of it, which would be the Community Edition.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ritesh Patel (aka mrsellout)
>
>  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moken
>  [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gypsies
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:51:50 -0700
>> From: tim@...
>> To: quim.gil@...
>> CC: meego-handset@...
>> Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] Naming of Community Edition - community
>> discussion
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Quim Gil wrote:
>> > Since Community Edition is not Masemo, that would be a good reason
>> > to actually avoid wind codenames.
>> >
>>
>> I agree. If code names are required, I suggest types of storms:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm#Types
>>
>> It references the old naming structure while remaining obtuse enough to
>> be different. And, names like Cyclone, Typhoon, Firestorm, etc. are just
>> cool. ;)
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> --
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>>
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Chris Samuel | 13 Oct 2011 04:16

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, 08:03:49 EST, Ritesh Patel <rit78@...> wrote:

> How about Moken?
> 
> The Moken 'are an Austronesian ethnic group ...
> who maintain a nomadic, sea-based culture' [1].

I like that one, well done!

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Dave Neary | 13 Oct 2011 12:30

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Hi,

On 10/12/2011 06:51 PM, Tim Samoff wrote:
> I agree. If code names are required, I suggest types of storms:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm#Types

Or perhaps clouds? Nimbus, Cumulus, Nimbus, Stratus, and Cirrus are all 
pretty cool codenames. Presumably all taken,, also, but if none of them 
are used in the realm of mobile software, we should be OK on the TM front.

> It references the old naming structure while remaining obtuse enough to
> be different. And, names like Cyclone, Typhoon, Firestorm, etc. are just
> cool. ;)

I agree :)

Cheers,
Dave.

PS. This thread has now gone on long enough that I'm wondering what 
process is in place for going from where we are to a decision. Perhaps 
the CE team leaders need to narrow down all of the proposals & chatter 
to a list of suggestions, and then get together and pick one?

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Thomas.Rucker | 13 Oct 2011 16:05

CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

As David just put it aptly:

>PS. This thread has now gone on long enough that I'm wondering what
>process is in place for going from where we are to a decision. Perhaps
>the CE team leaders need to narrow down all of the proposals & chatter
>to a list of suggestions, and then get together and pick one?

To aid the CE SG in their decision making process I've dusted off an
LimeSurvey instance I have around and set up a survey.

Sivan helped to compile all proposals made so far and well here it is
in all its bikeshed glory:

http://survey.bfst.de/95275/

The survey will run till Monday 23:59:59 UTC so that the results can be made
available to the SG for their meeting on Tuesday.

Cheers

Thomas

PS: We took everything and didn't filter in any way (even MerDE is there).
It will be up to the SG to decide what they want to do and the survey
should not be understood as to be binding them in any way.
The hope is though that it will help them to understand what the community
would like to see though.

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Dave Neary | 13 Oct 2011 16:56

Re: CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

Hi,

Thomas.Rucker@... wrote:
> To aid the CE SG in their decision making process I've dusted off an
> LimeSurvey instance I have around and set up a survey.
> 
> Sivan helped to compile all proposals made so far and well here it is
> in all its bikeshed glory:
> 
> http://survey.bfst.de/95275/
> 
> The survey will run till Monday 23:59:59 UTC so that the results can be made
> available to the SG for their meeting on Tuesday.

For the record, I think polls are a terrible way to pick names. I would
much prefer the main stakeholders get together & pick their favourite.

> PS: We took everything and didn't filter in any way (even MerDE is there).

Works well in France - as I'm sure you know already.

> It will be up to the SG to decide what they want to do and the survey
> should not be understood as to be binding them in any way.

Oh, good.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Thomas.Rucker | 13 Oct 2011 20:11

Re: CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

I agree that it's not a good way and as you noticed it's not the intention.

Part of the motivation was to slow the endless stream of bikeshed suggestions (we're well over 100 by now) and make people have a look what already was proposed.

Also the poll might give the SG some ideas if it e.g. yields support for viable names. Ultimately the CE SG will call the shots and if they chose something completely different, that's fine by me. :)
Cheers

Thomas
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On 13.10.2011 17:57 Dave Neary wrote:

Hi,

Thomas.Rucker <at> tieto.com wrote:
> To aid the CE SG in their decision making process I've dusted off an
> LimeSurvey instance I have around and set up a survey.
>
> Sivan helped to compile all proposals made so far and well here it is
> in all its bikeshed glory:
>
> http://survey.bfst.de/95275/
>
> The survey will run till Monday 23:59:59 UTC so that the results can be made
> available to the SG for their meeting on Tuesday.

For the record, I think polls are a terrible way to pick names. I would
much prefer the main stakeholders get together & pick their favourite.

> PS: We took everything and didn't filter in any way (even MerDE is there).

Works well in France - as I'm sure you know already.

> It will be up to the SG to decide what they want to do and the survey
> should not be understood as to be binding them in any way.

Oh, good.

Cheers,
Dave.

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<div>
<p><span>I agree that it's not a good way and as you noticed it's not the intention.</span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span>Part of the motivation was to slow the endless stream of bikeshed suggestions (we're well over 100 by now) and make people have a look what already was proposed.</span></p>
<p><span>Also the poll might give the SG some ideas if it e.g. yields support for viable names. Ultimately the CE SG will call the shots and if they chose something completely different, that's fine by me. :)<br>Cheers</span></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><span>Thomas<br>-- <br>Sent from my Nokia N950, thus top post and full quote...</span></p>
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<br><div><p>On 13.10.2011 17:57 Dave Neary wrote:<br></p></div>
<div>Hi,<br><br>Thomas.Rucker <at> tieto.com wrote:<br>&gt; To aid the CE SG in their decision making process I've dusted off an<br>&gt; LimeSurvey instance I have around and set up a survey.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Sivan helped to compile all proposals made so far and well here it is<br>&gt; in all its bikeshed glory:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; http://survey.bfst.de/95275/<br>&gt; <br>&gt; The survey will run till Monday 23:59:59 UTC so that the results can be made<br>&gt; available to the SG for their meeting on Tuesday.<br><br>For the record, I think polls are a terrible way to pick names. I would<br>much prefer the main stakeholders get together &amp; pick their favourite.<br><br>&gt; PS: We took everything and didn't filter in any way (even MerDE is there).<br><br>Works well in France - as I'm sure you know already.<br><br>&gt; It will be up to the SG to decide what they want to do and the survey<br>&gt; should not be understood as to be binding them in any way.<br><br>Oh, good.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Dave.<br><br>-- <br>Email: dneary <at> maemo.org<br>Jabber: bolsh <at> jabber.org<br><br>
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Thomas.Rucker | 17 Oct 2011 12:05

Re: CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

Hi,

Quick reminder survey ends tonight at 00:00 UTC.

Thomas.Rucker@... wrote:
> To aid the CE SG in their decision making process I've dusted off an
> LimeSurvey instance I have around and set up a survey.
> 
> Sivan helped to compile all proposals made so far and well here it is
> in all its bikeshed glory:
> 
> http://survey.bfst.de/95275/
> 
> The survey will run till Monday 23:59:59 UTC so that the results can be made
> available to the SG for their meeting on Tuesday.

Tomorrow morning I'll export the data and make some pretty pretty.

Reminder: If the SteeringGroup decides to ignore all this and call it "PinkPonies", yes they can!

Cheers

Thomas

PS: X-post to the community list, but f'up please to meego-handset.

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jukka-5+iYmY1o6Q4AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org | 17 Oct 2011 12:34

Re: [MeeGo-community] CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

> Tomorrow morning I'll export the data and make some pretty pretty.

Thanks again for making this happen!

> Reminder: If the SteeringGroup decides to ignore all this and call it "PinkPonies", yes they >can!

Thanks for the idea ;)

Jukka

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Thomas.Rucker | 18 Oct 2011 10:07

Re: CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

Hidiho,

Results are in!

I've already forwarded the data to Carsten so that the Steering group can familiarize themselves with the
results and discuss them.
There has been already some discussion on #mer

Here are they for everyone to marvel at:

Top 8 by percentage:
Mermade                         21.34%
Mermaid                         13.41%
Mer as a brand and Mer Handset  12.20%
Meer                             9.76%
Nemo                             9.76%
Cinnamon                         9.15%
Mermate                          7.93%
Naemo                            6.71%

Some flashy graphs
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top8-pie.png
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top8-bars.png
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top21.png
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/all.png

It wouldn't be a bike-shed if there wouldn't be
new suggestions made within the survey:
Debian
MerPhone
Splash
Merry
MerKat
Luna
Mercure
Merci
HarMeron (google it, definitive answer to HarMattan)
Mermer
mersanmer
MooDo
Tryzen
Qtopia
Akvarium
Phoenix
Lyra
MerGo
Meerkat
Meridian
LlameMe
Mojo
Veni Vidi (from I Go, I See)
Titzen
Titzen
Merlin
GoForMee
Aya
Minos (Mer Is Not an Operating System)
Zeus
Pacific
FyMer
merry
Trident
Gagarin OS

And for people who want to go all out scientific analysis on it:
R ready results:
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/Surveydata_syntax.R
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/survey_95275_data_file.csv
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/r-hints.txt

Raw CSV export:
http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/results-survey95275.csv

Cheers

Thomas

PS: I for one welcome our new PinkPonyOS overlords!
Again X-post, please fup to meego-handset!

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Hillel Lubman | 18 Oct 2011 10:25

Re: [Meego-handset] CommunityEdition renaming bikeshed poll is now OPEN!

Hehe, HarMeron is a good one. Includes Mer and hints to freedom (read 
history of Rashbi). Why not just simply Meron then?

Regards,

Hillel.

On 10/18/2011 04:07 AM, Thomas.Rucker@... wrote:
> Hidiho,
>
> Results are in!
>
> I've already forwarded the data to Carsten so that the Steering group can familiarize themselves with the
results and discuss them.
> There has been already some discussion on #mer
>
> Here are they for everyone to marvel at:
>
> Top 8 by percentage:
> Mermade                         21.34%
> Mermaid                         13.41%
> Mer as a brand and Mer Handset  12.20%
> Meer                             9.76%
> Nemo                             9.76%
> Cinnamon                         9.15%
> Mermate                          7.93%
> Naemo                            6.71%
>
> Some flashy graphs
> http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top8-pie.png
> http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top8-bars.png
> http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/top21.png
> http://mer.bfst.de/bikeshed/ce-name/all.png
>
> It wouldn't be a bike-shed if there wouldn't be
> new suggestions made within the survey:
> Debian
> MerPhone
> Splash
> Merry
> MerKat
> Luna
> Mercure
> Merci
> HarMeron (google it, definitive answer to HarMattan)
> Mermer
> mersanmer
> MooDo
> Tryzen
> Qtopia
> Akvarium
> Phoenix
> Lyra
> MerGo
> Meerkat
> Meridian
> LlameMe
> Mojo
> Veni Vidi (from I Go, I See)
> Titzen
> Titzen
> Merlin
> GoForMee
> Aya
> Minos (Mer Is Not an Operating System)
> Zeus
> Pacific
> FyMer
> merry
> Trident
> Gagarin OS
>
>

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William Marone | 12 Oct 2011 06:04

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/11/2011 4:45 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, 00:18:33 EST, Hillel
Lubman<shtetldik@...>  wrote:
>
>> I like *Cinnamon* proposed before. But if you
>> want to continue the Mer idea, while not using
>> the name - take something sea related.
> Probably won't pass the guidelines, but MerMade ? 
>
That'd make you the 3rd person to recommend it, though I did so only jokingly and 
on IRC ;)

If everyone's thinking "sea" names and following along the "mermaid" thread, how 
about "Neptune" or "Poseidon"?

Or others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity

And I'll echo one of Carsten's initial points:

* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is 
anything)

Will

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Hillel Lubman | 12 Oct 2011 08:33

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Mermaid / Mermade / Mermate sound more interesting and original than Neptune or Poseidon in connection to Mer.
And I don't think including Mer inside the name is any problem really, if the name as a whole has a self significant meaning.

You can try other languages for sea connotation also. Example:

Earenos (Earen - great sea in Quenya, OS is an obvious suffix).

Regards,

Hillel.

On 10/12/2011 12:04 AM, William Marone wrote:

If everyone's thinking "sea" names and following along the "mermaid" thread, how about "Neptune" or "Poseidon"?

Or others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity

And I'll echo one of Carsten's initial points:

* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)

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    Mermaid / Mermade / Mermate sound more interesting and original than
    Neptune or Poseidon in connection to Mer.<br>
    And I don't think including Mer inside the name is any problem
    really, if the name as a whole has a self significant meaning.<br><br>
    You can try other languages for sea connotation also. Example:<br><br>Earenos (Earen - great sea in Quenya, OS is an obvious
    suffix).<br><br>
    Regards,<br><br>
    Hillel.<br><br>
    On 10/12/2011 12:04 AM, William Marone wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:4E9511D6.70804@..." type="cite">If
      everyone's thinking "sea" names and following along the "mermaid"
      thread, how about "Neptune" or "Poseidon"?
      <br><br>
      Or others: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity</a>
      <br><br>
      And I'll echo one of Carsten's initial points:
      <br><br>
      * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"
      Mer UX (nor is anything)
      <br><br>
      Will
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ronan.maclaverty | 12 Oct 2011 08:46

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Sorry for top posting, here is another suggestion:

Mermate, mermaid and mermade all have mer at the start, but we could just as easily put it at the end, and this opens another range of possibilities:

maemer

meemer

mobmer

Or looking for other languages, how about Mara (gaelic meaning “of the sea”, so of Mer).

Ronan.

If everyone's thinking "sea" names and following along the "mermaid" thread, how about "Neptune" or "Poseidon"?

Or others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity

And I'll echo one of Carsten's initial points:

* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)

Will
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<div class="WordSection1">
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sorry for top posting, here is another suggestion:<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Mermate, mermaid and mermade all have mer at the start, but we could just as easily put it at the end, and this opens another range of possibilities:<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>maemer<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>meemer<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>mobmer<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Or looking for other languages, how about Mara (gaelic meaning &ldquo;of the sea&rdquo;, so of Mer).<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Ronan.<p></p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mermaid / Mermade / Mermate sound more interesting and original than Neptune or Poseidon in connection to Mer.<br>
And I don't think including Mer inside the name is any problem really, if the name as a whole has a self significant meaning.<br><br>
You can try other languages for sea connotation also. Example:<br><br>Earenos (Earen - great sea in Quenya, OS is an obvious suffix).<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Hillel.<br><br>
On 10/12/2011 12:04 AM, William Marone wrote: <p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If everyone's thinking "sea" names and following along the "mermaid" thread, how about "Neptune" or "Poseidon"?
<br><br>
Or others: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_deity</a>
<br><br>
And I'll echo one of Carsten's initial points: <br><br>
* Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer UX (nor is anything)
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Chris Samuel | 12 Oct 2011 13:17

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:04:38 William Marone wrote:

> That'd make you the 3rd person to recommend it, though I did so only
> jokingly and on IRC ;)

Convergent evolution - I'd not caught up with the discussion at that 
point.. 

> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"
> Mer UX (nor is  anything)

SeaDog ?

 Sea - Mer
 Dog - Dog and Bone - Cockney rhyming slang for phone.
 Seadog - someone who spends a lot of time at sea

FLOSSphone ?

LibreCall ?  (there's already a GNU Free Call)

LibrePhone ?

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On Wednesday 12 October 2011 15:04:38 William Marone wrote:

> That'd make you the 3rd person to recommend it, though I did so only
> jokingly and on IRC ;)

Convergent evolution - I'd not caught up with the discussion at that 
point.. 

> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"
> Mer UX (nor is  anything)

SeaDog ?

 Sea - Mer
 Dog - Dog and Bone - Cockney rhyming slang for phone.
 Seadog - someone who spends a lot of time at sea

FLOSSphone ?

LibreCall ?  (there's already a GNU Free Call)

LibrePhone ?

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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:21

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Since you all know I have a thing for the Finnish language and
Finland, I would like to propose:

"Avomerelle" .

Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail me :)

-Sivan

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Munk <carsten@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
> the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
> what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
> screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
> inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core
>
> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
> UX (nor is anything)
>
> All suggestions welcome!
>
> BR
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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:22

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Can be written as AvoMerelle actually.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan@...> wrote:
> Since you all know I have a thing for the Finnish language and
> Finland, I would like to propose:
>
> "Avomerelle" .
>
> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail me :)
>
> -Sivan
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Carsten Munk <carsten@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you know, there has been a lot of news regarding MeeGo, introducing
>> the Tizen project, Mer, etc.
>>
>> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas on
>> what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our splash
>> screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be increasingily
>> inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of the Mer Core
>>
>> Some limitations:
>> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen, Nokia, etc.
>> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the" Mer
>> UX (nor is anything)
>>
>> All suggestions welcome!
>>
>> BR
>> Carsten Munk
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Surakka Kimmo (Nokia-MS/Helsinki | 12 Oct 2011 15:47

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On 10/12/2011 02:22 PM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> Can be written as AvoMerelle actually.

No it can't. It's a single (compound) word and there are no capital 
letters in the middle of a word.

Kimmo

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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 16:11

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

So no, then it will be even farther than Mer but still noting it in the name ;)

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Surakka Kimmo (Nokia-MS/Helsinki)
<kimmo.surakka@...> wrote:
> On 10/12/2011 02:22 PM, ext Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>>
>> Can be written as AvoMerelle actually.
>
> No it can't. It's a single (compound) word and there are no capital letters
> in the middle of a word.
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Kaj-Michael Lang | 12 Oct 2011 13:32

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:21 +0200, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
> "Avomerelle" .
> 
> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail
> me :) 

More like "To the high sea"
"Openwind" would be "avointuuli" whatever that is :)

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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:33

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

No wait, I have the best one!

Merituuli ! :)

-Sivan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang <milang@...> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:21 +0200, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>> "Avomerelle" .
>>
>> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail
>> me :)
>
> More like "To the high sea"
> "Openwind" would be "avointuuli" whatever that is :)
>
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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:34

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

ah, yes, Avomerelle is what google gave me for "Open Sea".

-Sivan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan@...> wrote:
> No wait, I have the best one!
>
> Merituuli ! :)
>
> -Sivan
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang <milang@...> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:21 +0200, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>>> "Avomerelle" .
>>>
>>> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail
>>> me :)
>>
>> More like "To the high sea"
>> "Openwind" would be "avointuuli" whatever that is :)
>>
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Sivan Greenberg | 12 Oct 2011 13:37

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

For those who know how to pronounce that (there's an emphasis in the
'uu' which is cool) I think that'd be a rocking name to pronounce in
real world discussions and conference,  and ofcourse with such name we
could have the first conference for Merituuli in Tampere! ;)

-Sivan

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Sivan Greenberg <sivan@...> wrote:
> No wait, I have the best one!
>
> Merituuli ! :)
>
> -Sivan
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Kaj-Michael Lang <milang@...> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 13:21 +0200, Sivan Greenberg wrote:
>>> "Avomerelle" .
>>>
>>> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail
>>> me :)
>>
>> More like "To the high sea"
>> "Openwind" would be "avointuuli" whatever that is :)
>>
>> --
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>>
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timo.poikola | 12 Oct 2011 13:39

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion


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> Since you all know I have a thing for the Finnish language and
> Finland, I would like to propose:

> "Avomerelle" .

> Which supposed to mean "openwind" in Finnish, if google does not fail me :)

"Avomerelle" means (roughly) "to open sea".

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Andrew Flegg | 12 Oct 2011 19:44

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

Carsten wrote:
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of
> the Mer Core.

OK, I'm confused on where you are with defining Mer's governance -
which "steering group" are you referring to?

> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen,
>   Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"
>   Mer UX (nor is anything)

OK, above you refer to "Mer Core" which - as you know - fits into what
I was pitching "MeeGo 2.0" would be: http://wiki.meego.com/Blueprint.
I think this is now the template for how Mer should function. However,
you also state "Mer's a core" (implying nothing more than that).

IMNSHO, "Mer" should refer to the project which facilitates the
development of a stack of related projects by different teams. "Core"
is one of those projects. "Community Edition" (not sure a new name is
needed if naming is consistent) is another project which takes the
output of "Core", "UX#1", "N900 Adaptation" and "N9(50) Adaptation"
and sprinkles on some of their own special sauce.

Glossary:

  * "Mer" - a group of projects providing the infrastructure for developing
    an open source, mobile Linux OS.
  * "Mer Core" - a project which provides the smallest booting Linux & Qt
    environment.
  * "Mer Tools" - build tools and stuff on top of "Core" necessary to build
    it either cross-compiled or self-hosting.
  * "Mer Apps" - apps.formeego.org development, infrastructure etc.
  * "Plasma Active for Mer" - a project taking Plasma Active and
delivering a Mer
    build of it.
  * "Handset UX for Mer" - a project taking MeeGo's Handset UX and delivering a
    Mer build of it.
  * "Mer Community Edition" - a polished, project aiming to deliver a day-to-day
    usable build of one or more of the other Mer projects, acting as a reference
    vendor.

The scope of "Mer" has to, IMHO, encompass these other projects
(rather than being "[just] a core") - it has to be a toolbox of
projects; for no other reason as to provide a home for the "rest" of
meego.com as it diminishes over time.

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Krzysztof Kuska | 12 Oct 2011 21:54

Re: Naming of Community Edition - community discussion

I don't know what the steering group thinks about this but for me Andrew certainly has a point...

2011/10/12 Andrew Flegg <andrew <at> bleb.org>

Carsten wrote:
>
> We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas
> on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our
> splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be
> increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of

> the Mer Core.

OK, I'm confused on where you are with defining Mer's governance -
which "steering group" are you referring to?

> Some limitations:
> * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen,
> Nokia, etc.
> * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"
> Mer UX (nor is anything)

OK, above you refer to "Mer Core" which - as you know - fits into what
I was pitching "MeeGo 2.0" would be: http://wiki.meego.com/Blueprint.
I think this is now the template for how Mer should function. However,
you also state "Mer's a core" (implying nothing more than that).

IMNSHO, "Mer" should refer to the project which facilitates the
development of a stack of related projects by different teams. "Core"
is one of those projects. "Community Edition" (not sure a new name is
needed if naming is consistent) is another project which takes the
output of "Core", "UX#1", "N900 Adaptation" and "N9(50) Adaptation"
and sprinkles on some of their own special sauce.

Glossary:

* "Mer" - a group of projects providing the infrastructure for developing
an open source, mobile Linux OS.
* "Mer Core" - a project which provides the smallest booting Linux & Qt
environment.
* "Mer Tools" - build tools and stuff on top of "Core" necessary to build
it either cross-compiled or self-hosting.
* "Mer Apps" - apps.formeego.org development, infrastructure etc.
* "Plasma Active for Mer" - a project taking Plasma Active and
delivering a Mer
build of it.
* "Handset UX for Mer" - a project taking MeeGo's Handset UX and delivering a
Mer build of it.
* "Mer Community Edition" - a polished, project aiming to deliver a day-to-day
usable build of one or more of the other Mer projects, acting as a reference
vendor.

The scope of "Mer" has to, IMHO, encompass these other projects
(rather than being "[just] a core") - it has to be a toolbox of
projects; for no other reason as to provide a home for the "rest" of
meego.com as it diminishes over time.

Cheers,

Andrew

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<p>I don't know what the steering group thinks about this but for me Andrew certainly has a point...<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/12 Andrew Flegg <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:andrew@...">andrew <at> bleb.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
<div class="im">Carsten wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; We (as in the steering group) like to query the community for ideas<br>
&gt; on what to call the Community Edition in the future. Currently our<br>
&gt; splash screens says MeeGo 1.3 Community Edition which will be<br>
&gt; increasingily inaccurate as we're working to rebase CE on top of<br>
</div>&gt; the Mer Core.<br><br>
OK, I'm confused on where you are with defining Mer's governance -<br>
which "steering group" are you referring to?<br><div class="im">
<br>
&gt; Some limitations:<br>
&gt; * Can't include trademarks or company names, such as MeeGo / Tizen,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; Nokia, etc.<br>
&gt; * Can't include Mer within it as Mer's a core and CE is not "the"<br>
&gt; &nbsp; Mer UX (nor is anything)<br><br>
</div>OK, above you refer to "Mer Core" which - as you know - fits into what<br>
I was pitching "MeeGo 2.0" would be: <a href="http://wiki.meego.com/Blueprint" target="_blank">http://wiki.meego.com/Blueprint</a>.<br>
I think this is now the template for how Mer should function. However,<br>
you also state "Mer's a core" (implying nothing more than that).<br><br>
IMNSHO, "Mer" should refer to the project which facilitates the<br>
development of a stack of related projects by different teams. "Core"<br>
is one of those projects. "Community Edition" (not sure a new name is<br>
needed if naming is consistent) is another project which takes the<br>
output of "Core", "UX#1", "N900 Adaptation" and "N9(50) Adaptation"<br>
and sprinkles on some of their own special sauce.<br><br>
Glossary:<br><br>
 &nbsp;* "Mer" - a group of projects providing the infrastructure for developing<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;an open source, mobile Linux OS.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Mer Core" - a project which provides the smallest booting Linux &amp; Qt<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;environment.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Mer Tools" - build tools and stuff on top of "Core" necessary to build<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;it either cross-compiled or self-hosting.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Mer Apps" - <a href="http://apps.formeego.org" target="_blank">apps.formeego.org</a> development, infrastructure etc.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Plasma Active for Mer" - a project taking Plasma Active and<br>
delivering a Mer<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;build of it.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Handset UX for Mer" - a project taking MeeGo's Handset UX and delivering a<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;Mer build of it.<br>
 &nbsp;* "Mer Community Edition" - a polished, project aiming to deliver a day-to-day<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;usable build of one or more of the other Mer projects, acting as a reference<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp;vendor.<br><br>
The scope of "Mer" has to, IMHO, encompass these other projects<br>
(rather than being "[just] a core") - it has to be a toolbox of<br>
projects; for no other reason as to provide a home for the "rest" of<br><a href="http://meego.com" target="_blank">meego.com</a> as it diminishes over time.<br><br>
Cheers,<br><br>
Andrew<br><br>
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