The release engineering team has procedures and requirements that go beyond what the MeeGo-IT team can support. These procedures and requirements predate the existence of the MeeGo-IT team itself. We have a very good understanding of what the technical
issues are that have been causing the downtime. We are working to resolve the issue. In the mean time if you have concerns I will be happy to come the the MeeGo-IT team meeting to discuss it. I won't be available next week but can be available the week
after. In the mean time, the responsibility for this server is release engineering's.
On Aug 12, 2011 1:01 PM, <
stefano.mosconi-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hi Dawn,
>
> Can you expand why we can't help RE team in keeping the services up and running for the benefit of the project, the users and the community?
>
> Is it political?
>
> Is it a trust issue?
>
> Is it something else?
>
> Our job is to work with servers, we just would like to help here. Nothing more than that.
>
> To be clearer I didn't get the reasons why access will continue to be limited. Reasons that would help to understand the decision.
>
> Thanks
> Stefano
>
>
> Il 12.8.2011 19:38 ext Foster, Dawn M ha scritto:
>
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 9:35 AM, David Greaves wrote:
>
>> On 12/08/11 16:02, Foster, Dawn M wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:23 AM, David Greaves wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/08/11 09:35, David Greaves wrote:
>>>>> Hi Anas
>>>>>
>>>>> cc meego-it : trying to keep our comms open and public.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you know there have been a few instances recently when the main OBS has gone
>>>>> down over the weekend and there's either been no-one about to deal with it or it
>>>>> hasn't been clear if a problem has arisen and been resolved.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've spoken before about how the main OBS and other systems are still not
>>>>> readily supported by MeeGo IT - can we start to plan how to resolve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's short notice but could you join us on the IT conference call this
>>>>> evening. I'll send you the details.
>>>>
>>>> Anas ... just a quick ping to see if you got this?
>>>>
>>>> Dawn - if I remember correctly, Adam mentioned this could also fall into your
>>>> area of responsibility ... can you confirm or deny?
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know if Anas is on vacation or anything?
>>>
>>> We talked to Anas, and the main OBS needs to continue to fall under release
>>> engineering rather than IT. Release engineering is working on fixing the
>>> current issues.
>>
>> I don't think there's any intention of having the main OBS 'under' IT; clearly
>> it belongs to RE and they manage it.
>>
>> However we do have limited resource and it seems sensible to cooperate on
>> managing our infrastructure in a coherent manner.
>>
>> Would it not make sense to at least have some commonality in operations between
>> the RE managed infrastructure and the IT managed infrastructure... the machines
>> sit in racks within a few feet of each other and connect to the same basic LAN.
>>
>> For example we're starting to improve our monitoring activities and it seems
>> very wasteful to do that kind of work twice.
>
> I think it would be an excellent idea for you to share what you're learning with
> release engineering. Adam can help with that; however, access to the main
> OBS will continue to be limited to the release engineering team.
>
> Dawn
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