P.Tsvetkov | 5 May 2011 10:05
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LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

Hello all!

 

I have found a few problems with veritas&zfs&ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris technology .

 

I want to have  zfs on my root and veritas groups for local zone roots.  There are a lot of whole-root local zones so I have to use Solaris LiveUpgrade  to upgrade Alternate Boot Environment including alternate global & local zones while the production is online. On external disk array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE  (lucreate) with  global zone on zfs and local zones on veritas volumes (vxfs). This is not supported by Oracle.  So I have two options:

1)      to place local zones on zpool  under veritas dmp control  which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;

2)      to use  svm ufs on global zone with local zones on veritas  vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade but UFS will not be supported by Oracle  in Solaris 11 release.

 

 

 

1.       Option one.  Everything is ok.  But the problem is that  StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate whole-root local zones. For example  you can use alternate root path in installrp script to install rolling patch. And that is all.  The script knows nothing about alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only possible to get list of patches with installrp –listpatches and install them by luupgrade utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.

 

2.        Option two. The second thing is  worse because I could not find any information on how it is possible to migrate from ZFS to UFS.

I made a tar backup of /root on  rpool and restored it on UFS partition 0. For /var  I used ufs partition 3. The ufs boot block was installed correctly. Fsck on /dev/rdsk/… was done. /etc/vfstab file was corrected. Everything seemed ok. But on restarting the system  I saw the error: system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that the system froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to send a break from console.

 

So the question is: how to migrate from ZFS back to UFS?

 

Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.

<div>

<div class="WordSection1">

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello all!<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have found a few problems with
veritas&amp;zfs&amp;ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris technology .<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I want to have&nbsp; zfs on my root and veritas
groups for local zone roots. &nbsp;There are a lot of whole-root local zones so I
have to use Solaris LiveUpgrade &nbsp;to upgrade Alternate Boot Environment
including alternate global &amp; local zones while the production is online. On
external disk array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE &nbsp;(lucreate) with&nbsp;
global zone on zfs and local zones on veritas volumes (vxfs). This is not
supported by Oracle. &nbsp;So I have two options:<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>1)<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">to place local zones on zpool&nbsp;
under veritas dmp control&nbsp; which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>2)<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">to use&nbsp; svm ufs on global zone
with local zones on veritas &nbsp;vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade
but UFS will not be supported by Oracle &nbsp;in Solaris 11 release.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">Option one.&nbsp; Everything is ok.&nbsp;
But the problem is that&nbsp; StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate
whole-root local zones. For example &nbsp;you can use alternate root path in
installrp script to install rolling patch. And that is all. &nbsp;The script knows
nothing about alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only
possible to get list of patches with installrp &ndash;listpatches and install
them by luupgrade utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>2.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;Option two. The second thing is&nbsp;
worse because I could not find any information on how it is possible to migrate
from ZFS to UFS.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">I made a tar backup of /root on&nbsp;
rpool and restored it on UFS partition 0. For /var &nbsp;I used ufs partition 3. The
ufs boot block was installed correctly. Fsck on /dev/rdsk/&hellip; was done. /etc/vfstab
file was corrected. Everything seemed ok. But on restarting the system&nbsp; I saw
the error: system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that
the system froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to
send a break from console.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">So the question is: how to migrate
from ZFS back to UFS?<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.<p></p></span></p>

</div>

</div>
Hudes, Dana | 5 May 2011 18:27

Re: LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

  1. UFS is deprecated in Solaris 10 and removed in Solaris 11
  2. Booting from vxfs is not supported and never was; root disk encapsulation is a hack that was needed until we got zfs boot. There is no longer a use for this technique.
  3. Use of ZFS for root disk and zone roots gives you clean Live Upgrade using snapshots and clones.
  4. The only places I see a use for Veritas are legacy applications which use raw volumes and do not support ZFS (Filenet Image Services prior to v4.12 is one example) and of course massive legacy storage (e.g. “MSAR”…we have 50+ TB of VxVM, moving that to ZFS after we go to IS 4.12 is non-trivial).  Oracle DBMS with raw volumes and certain workloads (and of course legacy storage from prior releases) will benefit from raw volumes and ODM.

 

 

 

From: veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of P.Tsvetkov <at> inform.gazprom.ru
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:06 AM
To: veritas-vx <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

 

Hello all!

 

I have found a few problems with veritas&zfs&ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris technology .

 

I want to have  zfs on my root and veritas groups for local zone roots.  There are a lot of whole-root local zones so I have to use Solaris LiveUpgrade  to upgrade Alternate Boot Environment including alternate global & local zones while the production is online. On external disk array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE  (lucreate) with  global zone on zfs and local zones on veritas volumes (vxfs). This is not supported by Oracle.  So I have two options:

1)      to place local zones on zpool  under veritas dmp control  which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;

2)      to use  svm ufs on global zone with local zones on veritas  vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade but UFS will not be supported by Oracle  in Solaris 11 release.

 

 

 

1.       Option one.  Everything is ok.  But the problem is that  StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate whole-root local zones. For example  you can use alternate root path in installrp script to install rolling patch. And that is all.  The script knows nothing about alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only possible to get list of patches with installrp –listpatches and install them by luupgrade utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.

 

2.        Option two. The second thing is  worse because I could not find any information on how it is possible to migrate from ZFS to UFS.

I made a tar backup of /root on  rpool and restored it on UFS partition 0. For /var  I used ufs partition 3. The ufs boot block was installed correctly. Fsck on /dev/rdsk/… was done. /etc/vfstab file was corrected. Everything seemed ok. But on restarting the system  I saw the error: system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that the system froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to send a break from console.

 

So the question is: how to migrate from ZFS back to UFS?

 

Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.

<div>

<div class="Section1">

<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal"><span>UFS is deprecated in Solaris 10
     and removed in Solaris 11</span></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span>Booting from vxfs is not
     supported and never was; root disk encapsulation is a hack that was needed
     until we got zfs boot. There is no longer a use for this technique.</span></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span>Use of ZFS for root disk and
     zone roots gives you clean Live Upgrade using snapshots and clones. </span></li>
 <li class="MsoNormal"><span>The only places I see a use for
     Veritas are legacy applications which use raw volumes and do not support
     ZFS (Filenet Image Services prior to v4.12 is one example) and of course
     massive legacy storage (e.g. &ldquo;MSAR&rdquo;&hellip;we have 50+ TB of VxVM, moving that to
     ZFS after we go to IS 4.12 is non-trivial). &nbsp;Oracle DBMS with raw volumes
     and certain workloads (and of course legacy storage from prior releases)
     will benefit from raw volumes and ODM.</span></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<div>

<div class="MsoNormal" align="center"><span>

</span></div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>From:</span><span>
veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu] <span>On Behalf Of </span>P.Tsvetkov <at> inform.gazprom.ru<br><span>Sent:</span> Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:06
AM<br><span>To:</span> veritas-vx <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br><span>Subject:</span> [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade
on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10</span></p>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Hello
all!</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
have found a few problems with veritas&amp;zfs&amp;ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris
technology .</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I
want to have&nbsp; zfs on my root and veritas groups for local zone roots.
&nbsp;There are a lot of whole-root local zones so I have to use Solaris
LiveUpgrade &nbsp;to upgrade Alternate Boot Environment including alternate
global &amp; local zones while the production is online. On external disk
array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE &nbsp;(lucreate) with&nbsp; global
zone on zfs and local zones on veritas volumes (vxfs). This is not supported by
Oracle. &nbsp;So I have two options:</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>1)<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><span dir="LTR">to place local zones on zpool&nbsp; under veritas dmp control&nbsp;
which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>2)<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><span dir="LTR">to use&nbsp; svm ufs on global zone with local zones on veritas
&nbsp;vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade but UFS will not be
supported by Oracle &nbsp;in Solaris 11 release.</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>1.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><span dir="LTR">Option one.&nbsp; Everything is ok.&nbsp; But the problem is that&nbsp;
StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate whole-root local zones.
For example &nbsp;you can use alternate root path in installrp script to
install rolling patch. And that is all. &nbsp;The script knows nothing about
alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only possible to get
list of patches with installrp &ndash;listpatches and install them by luupgrade
utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>2.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><span dir="LTR">&nbsp;Option two. The second thing is&nbsp; worse because I could not
find any information on how it is possible to migrate from ZFS to UFS.</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>I made a tar backup of /root on&nbsp; rpool and restored it on UFS
partition 0. For /var &nbsp;I used ufs partition 3. The ufs boot block was
installed correctly. Fsck on /dev/rdsk/&hellip; was done. /etc/vfstab file was
corrected. Everything seemed ok. But on restarting the system&nbsp; I saw the
error: system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that the
system froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to
send a break from console.</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>So the question is: how to migrate from ZFS back to UFS?</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>&nbsp;</span></p>

<p class="msolistparagraph"><span>Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.</span></p>

</div>

</div>
P.Tsvetkov | 6 May 2011 07:03
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Re: LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

Thank  you for the reply.

 

I have found the way to get back to ufs from zfs. Not too complicated one. Just a few words about the item.

1.       VxVM can be used “add fs” in local zones. And should be used of course.  Why ? Because Storage Foundation HA is the best product on

the market.

2.        VxVM supports  the new storage APIs like thin provisioning and thin reclamation. It can be very useful if you don’t want to waste too much disk space on VMAX storage .

3.       ZFS still has some limitations. For example it is not possible to import  BCV or Clone of zpool on the same host as standard volumes.

 

From: Hudes, Dana [mailto:hudesd <at> hra.nyc.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:27 PM
To:
Цветков Павел Анатольевич; veritas-vx <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

 

  1. UFS is deprecated in Solaris 10 and removed in Solaris 11

  2. Booting from vxfs is not supported and never was; root disk encapsulation is a hack that was needed until we got zfs boot. There is no longer a use for this technique.

  3. Use of ZFS for root disk and zone roots gives you clean Live Upgrade using snapshots and clones.

  4. The only places I see a use for Veritas are legacy applications which use raw volumes and do not support ZFS (Filenet Image Services prior to v4.12 is one example) and of course massive legacy storage (e.g. “MSAR”…we have 50+ TB of VxVM, moving that to ZFS after we go to IS 4.12 is non-trivial).  Oracle DBMS with raw volumes and certain workloads (and of course legacy storage from prior releases) will benefit from raw volumes and ODM.

 

 

 

From: veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of P.Tsvetkov <at> inform.gazprom.ru
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:06 AM
To: veritas-vx <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems with Solaris 10

 

Hello all!

 

I have found a few problems with veritas&zfs&ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris technology .

 

I want to have  zfs on my root and veritas groups for local zone roots.  There are a lot of whole-root local zones so I have to use Solaris LiveUpgrade  to upgrade Alternate Boot Environment including alternate global & local zones while the production is online. On external disk array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE  (lucreate) with  global zone on zfs and local zones on veritas volumes (vxfs). This is not supported by Oracle.  So I have two options:

1)      to place local zones on zpool  under veritas dmp control  which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;

2)      to use  svm ufs on global zone with local zones on veritas  vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade but UFS will not be supported by Oracle  in Solaris 11 release.

 

 

 

1.       Option one.  Everything is ok.  But the problem is that  StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate whole-root local zones. For example  you can use alternate root path in installrp script to install rolling patch. And that is all.  The script knows nothing about alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only possible to get list of patches with installrp –listpatches and install them by luupgrade utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.

 

2.        Option two. The second thing is  worse because I could not find any information on how it is possible to migrate from ZFS to UFS.

I made a tar backup of /root on  rpool and restored it on UFS partition 0. For /var  I used ufs partition 3. The ufs boot block was installed correctly. Fsck on /dev/rdsk/… was done. /etc/vfstab file was corrected. Everything seemed ok. But on restarting the system  I saw the error: system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that the system froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to send a break from console.

 

So the question is: how to migrate from ZFS back to UFS?

 

Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.

<div>

<div class="WordSection1">

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank &nbsp;you for the
reply.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have found the way
to get back to ufs from zfs. Not too complicated one. Just a few words about
the item.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>1.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">VxVM can be used &ldquo;add fs&rdquo; in local
zones. And should be used of course. &nbsp;Why ? Because Storage Foundation HA is
the best product on<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">the market.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>2.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;VxVM supports&nbsp; the new storage APIs like thin
provisioning and thin reclamation. It can be very useful if you don&rsquo;t want
to waste too much disk space on VMAX storage .<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US"><span>3.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US">ZFS still has some limitations. For example it
is not possible to import &nbsp;BCV or Clone of zpool on the same host as standard
volumes.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><p>&nbsp;</p></span></p>

<div>

<div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">From:</span><span lang="EN-US"> Hudes, Dana [mailto:hudesd <at> hra.nyc.gov] <br>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 8:27 PM<br>To: </span><span>&#1062;&#1074;&#1077;&#1090;&#1082;&#1086;&#1074;</span><span> </span><span>&#1055;&#1072;&#1074;&#1077;&#1083;</span><span> </span><span>&#1040;&#1085;&#1072;&#1090;&#1086;&#1083;&#1100;&#1077;&#1074;&#1080;&#1095;</span><span lang="EN-US">;
veritas-vx</span><span> <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br>Subject: RE: [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other
problems with Solaris 10<p></p></span></p>

</div>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>

<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">UFS
     is deprecated in Solaris 10 and removed in Solaris 11</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span>
</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Booting
     from vxfs is not supported and never was; root disk encapsulation is a
     hack that was needed until we got zfs boot. There is no longer a use for
     this technique.</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span>
</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Use
     of ZFS for root disk and zone roots gives you clean Live Upgrade using
     snapshots and clones. </span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span>
</li>
 <li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">The
     only places I see a use for Veritas are legacy applications which use raw
     volumes and do not support ZFS (Filenet Image Services prior to v4.12 is
     one example) and of course massive legacy storage (e.g.
     &ldquo;MSAR&rdquo;&hellip;we have 50+ TB of VxVM, moving that to ZFS after
     we go to IS 4.12 is non-trivial). &nbsp;Oracle DBMS with raw volumes and
     certain workloads (and of course legacy storage from prior releases) will
     benefit from raw volumes and ODM.</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span>
</li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>

<div>

<div class="MsoNormal" align="center"><span lang="EN-US">

</span></div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">From:</span><span lang="EN-US"> veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-vx-bounces <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of P.Tsvetkov <at> inform.gazprom.ru<br>Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:06 AM<br>To: veritas-vx <at> mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br>Subject: [Veritas-vx] LiveUpgrade on Veritas 5.1SP1 and other problems
with Solaris 10</span><span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></p>

</div>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello all!<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I have found a few problems with
veritas&amp;zfs&amp;ufs and LiveUpgrade Solaris technology .<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I want to have&nbsp; zfs on my root and
veritas groups for local zone roots. &nbsp;There are a lot of whole-root local
zones so I have to use Solaris LiveUpgrade &nbsp;to upgrade Alternate Boot
Environment including alternate global &amp; local zones while the production
is online. On external disk array. It is a pity but I cannot create ABE
&nbsp;(lucreate) with&nbsp; global zone on zfs and local zones on veritas
volumes (vxfs). This is not supported by Oracle. &nbsp;So I have two options:<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">1)</span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang="EN-US">to place local zones on zpool&nbsp; under veritas dmp
control&nbsp; which is supported by Symantec but not by Oracle;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">2)</span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang="EN-US">to use&nbsp; svm ufs on global zone with local zones on
veritas &nbsp;vxfs (or zfs).This is supported now by LiveUpgrade but UFS will
not be supported by Oracle &nbsp;in Solaris 11 release.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">1.</span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang="EN-US">Option one.&nbsp; Everything is ok.&nbsp; But the
problem is that&nbsp; StorageFoundation installers cannot work with alternate
whole-root local zones. For example &nbsp;you can use alternate root path in
installrp script to install rolling patch. And that is all. &nbsp;The script
knows nothing about alternate local zones created for use by ABE. So it is only
possible to get list of patches with installrp &ndash;listpatches and install
them by luupgrade utility for your ABE. This is the only workaround I see.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">2.</span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;Option two. The second thing is&nbsp; worse
because I could not find any information on how it is possible to migrate from
ZFS to UFS.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">I made a tar backup of /root
on&nbsp; rpool and restored it on UFS partition 0. For /var &nbsp;I used ufs
partition 3. The ufs boot block was installed correctly. Fsck on
/dev/rdsk/&hellip; was done. /etc/vfstab file was corrected. Everything seemed
ok. But on restarting the system&nbsp; I saw the error:
system/filesystem/minimal:default failed to mount /var. After that the system
froze. It was not possible to enter a root password or continue or to send a
break from console.<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">So the question is: how to migrate
from ZFS back to UFS?<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<p></p></span></p>

<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Regards, Pavel Tsvetkov.<p></p></span></p>

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Gmane