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Chris Kutler | 9 Jul 19:53

Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Hi,

I came across this statement in 
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65#section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65-RunningSomeIDEDistributionsOnJRE

"Certain IDE distributions (e.g. PHP IDE) don't require Java JDK to run 
on, JRE is enough."

I am wondering if this is true for the Ruby download of NetBeans IDE 6.5?

If so, what is the recommended minimum version of the JRE?

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Tor Norbye | 10 Jul 02:47

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in theory,  
it ought to work; I don't think we use the JDK specific parts (javac,  
apt, etc). At least not intentionally.

-- Tor

On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Chris Kutler wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I came across this statement in http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65#section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65-RunningSomeIDEDistributionsOnJRE
>
> "Certain IDE distributions (e.g. PHP IDE) don't require Java JDK to  
> run on, JRE is enough."
>
> I am wondering if this is true for the Ruby download of NetBeans IDE  
> 6.5?
>
> If so, what is the recommended minimum version of the JRE?
>
>
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Erno Mononen | 10 Jul 10:03

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Tor Norbye wrote:
> I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in theory, 
> it ought to work; I don't think we use the JDK specific parts (javac, 
> apt, etc). At least not intentionally.

Creating WAR files out of Rails applications using GoldSpike requires 
the jar tool, which I think is not part of JRE. Other than that, I'd 
also guess it should work.

Erno

>
> -- Tor
>
> On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Chris Kutler wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I came across this statement in 
>>
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65#section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65-RunningSomeIDEDistributionsOnJRE 
>>
>>
>> "Certain IDE distributions (e.g. PHP IDE) don't require Java JDK to 
>> run on, JRE is enough."
>>
>> I am wondering if this is true for the Ruby download of NetBeans IDE 
>> 6.5?
>>
>> If so, what is the recommended minimum version of the JRE?

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Chris Kutler | 10 Jul 17:16

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?

Erno Mononen wrote:
> Tor Norbye wrote:
>> I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in 
>> theory, it ought to work; I don't think we use the JDK specific parts 
>> (javac, apt, etc). At least not intentionally.
>
> Creating WAR files out of Rails applications using GoldSpike requires 
> the jar tool, which I think is not part of JRE. Other than that, I'd 
> also guess it should work.
>
> Erno
>
>>
>> -- Tor
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Chris Kutler wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I came across this statement in 
>>>
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65#section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65-RunningSomeIDEDistributionsOnJRE 
>>>
>>>
>>> "Certain IDE distributions (e.g. PHP IDE) don't require Java JDK to 
>>> run on, JRE is enough."
>>>
>>> I am wondering if this is true for the Ruby download of NetBeans IDE

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Erno Mononen | 10 Jul 17:29

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Chris Kutler wrote:
> Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?

Yes, also true for Warbler.

Erno
>
> Erno Mononen wrote:
>> Tor Norbye wrote:
>>> I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in 
>>> theory, it ought to work; I don't think we use the JDK specific 
>>> parts (javac, apt, etc). At least not intentionally.
>>
>> Creating WAR files out of Rails applications using GoldSpike requires 
>> the jar tool, which I think is not part of JRE. Other than that, I'd 
>> also guess it should work.
>>
>> Erno
>>
>>>
>>> -- Tor
>>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Chris Kutler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I came across this statement in 
>>>>
http://wiki.netbeans.org/NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65#section-NewAndNoteWorthyMilestone1NB65-RunningSomeIDEDistributionsOnJRE 
>>>>

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Brian Leonard | 10 Jul 17:56

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Personally I would think if you were doing anything Java related, you 
would want or already have the JDK. The benefit of running NetBeans on 
the JRE is for pure "Rubyists" that don't want to have to install a Java 
development kit to develop in Ruby. Most everyone already has a JRE on 
their machines.

/Brian

Erno Mononen wrote:
> Chris Kutler wrote:
>> Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?
>
> Yes, also true for Warbler.
>
> Erno
>>
>> Erno Mononen wrote:
>>> Tor Norbye wrote:
>>>> I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in 
>>>> theory, it ought to work; I don't think we use the JDK specific 
>>>> parts (javac, apt, etc). At least not intentionally.
>>>
>>> Creating WAR files out of Rails applications using GoldSpike 
>>> requires the jar tool, which I think is not part of JRE. Other than 
>>> that, I'd also guess it should work.
>>>
>>> Erno
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Tor

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Erno Mononen | 10 Jul 18:07

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Brian Leonard wrote:
> Personally I would think if you were doing anything Java related, you 
> would want or already have the JDK. The benefit of running NetBeans on 
> the JRE is for pure "Rubyists" that don't want to have to install a 
> Java development kit to develop in Ruby. Most everyone already has a 
> JRE on their machines.

I agree with that, in particular folks deploying to Java app servers are 
likely to have a JDK installation anyway. Just that this is something 
that  should be mentioned somewhere and have the IDE warn the user when 
needed (something that's been on my todo list since we started to 
discuss this a few weeks ago).

Erno

>
> /Brian
>
> Erno Mononen wrote:
>> Chris Kutler wrote:
>>> Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?
>>
>> Yes, also true for Warbler.
>>
>> Erno
>>>
>>> Erno Mononen wrote:
>>>> Tor Norbye wrote:
>>>>> I don't know - and I don't know if anyone has tried it. But in

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Chris Kutler | 10 Jul 18:25

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?


Erno Mononen wrote:
>
> Brian Leonard wrote:
>> Personally I would think if you were doing anything Java related, you 
>> would want or already have the JDK. The benefit of running NetBeans 
>> on the JRE is for pure "Rubyists" that don't want to have to install 
>> a Java development kit to develop in Ruby. Most everyone already has 
>> a JRE on their machines.
>
> I agree with that, in particular folks deploying to Java app servers 
> are likely to have a JDK installation anyway. Just that this is 
> something that  should be mentioned somewhere and have the IDE warn 
> the user when needed (something that's been on my todo list since we 
> started to discuss this a few weeks ago).
>
> Erno
>
>>
>> /Brian
>>
>> Erno Mononen wrote:
>>> Chris Kutler wrote:
>>>> Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?
>>>
>>> Yes, also true for Warbler.
>>>
>>> Erno
>>>>
>>>> Erno Mononen wrote:

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Chris Kutler | 10 Jul 18:27

Re: Do we need a JDK installation for NetBeans 6.5 Ruby Only?

Sorry about the empty message. I accidentally hit the send button.

Chris Kutler wrote:
>
>
> Erno Mononen wrote:
>>
>> Brian Leonard wrote:
>>> Personally I would think if you were doing anything Java related, 
>>> you would want or already have the JDK. The benefit of running 
>>> NetBeans on the JRE is for pure "Rubyists" that don't want to have 
>>> to install a Java development kit to develop in Ruby. Most everyone 
>>> already has a JRE on their machines.
>>
>> I agree with that, in particular folks deploying to Java app servers 
>> are likely to have a JDK installation anyway. Just that this is 
>> something that  should be mentioned somewhere and have the IDE warn 
>> the user when needed (something that's been on my todo list since we 
>> started to discuss this a few weeks ago).
>>
>> Erno
>>
>>>
>>> /Brian
>>>
>>> Erno Mononen wrote:
>>>> Chris Kutler wrote:
>>>>> Would that also be true for Warbler? or just Goldspike?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, also true for Warbler.

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