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Davide Bettio | 20 Dec 16:07
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git and artworks issues

Hi,

As every year some artworks are changed according to the new default desktop background.
This year I noticed some problems:

1) kdm and ksplash default theme is part of kde-workspace. I need to update both, but if I do that I will have to
commit about 20/30 MiB of PNGs making git clones bigger.

2) I need to update kdeui/about backgrounds, but If I do that I will change backgrounds also for the KDE 4.7 branch.

What I should do?
I thought that we may move kdm and ksplash themes to svn and kdeui/about to kde-runtime.

Bye,
Davide Bettio.
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Dirk Mueller | 20 Dec 20:18
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Re: git and artworks issues

On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:

> As every year some artworks are changed according to the new default
> desktop background. This year I noticed some problems:
> 
> 1) kdm and ksplash default theme is part of kde-workspace. I need to update
> both, but if I do that I will have to commit about 20/30 MiB of PNGs
> making git clones bigger.

Thats life, you need to push it there. We can decide to move it to other 
places after 4.8.0, but now it is a bit too late. 

> 2) I need to update kdeui/about backgrounds, but If I do that I will change
> backgrounds also for the KDE 4.7 branch.

There are two possibilities: 

a)  create a kdelibs KDE/4.8 branch for this purpose. (plus the patch to make 
kdelibs 4.7 actually look like KDE 4.8, which I currently apply to the 
tarballs only (in kde-common/release/make-kdelibs-4.8.diff)

b) add a tarball of artwork that I need to unpack in kdelibs prior to creating 
the actual release tarball to kde-common/release/* as well)

For me, it would make most sense to create a KDE 4.8 branch in kdelibs, but I 
would like to have more input before I create the branch. 

Any opinions on this matter?

Thanks,
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Davide Bettio | 20 Dec 20:36
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Re: git and artworks issues

Hi,

On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:
>On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:
>>
>> As every year some artworks are changed according to the new default
>> desktop background. This year I noticed some problems:
>> 
>> 1) kdm and ksplash default theme is part of kde-workspace. I need to update
>> both, but if I do that I will have to commit about 20/30 MiB of PNGs
>> making git clones bigger.
>
>Thats life, you need to push it there. We can decide to move it to other 
>places after 4.8.0, but now it is a bit too late. 

I'm sorry to discuss this thing now, but I've seen all the new artworks recently. Anyway the point is that
everything will remain in kde-workspace history forever so moving it away at that point will not decrease
space usage.
I think that fixing this issue today is the best thing to do. I would like to create kde-base-artworks for
that kind of stuff.

Bye,
Davide Bettio.
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Dirk Mueller | 20 Dec 21:47
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Re: git and artworks issues

On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:

> I'm sorry to discuss this thing now, but I've seen all the new artworks
> recently. Anyway the point is that everything will remain in kde-workspace
> history forever so moving it away at that point will not decrease space
> usage

I know, but it is 4 days before holiday season and I need to get RC1 out, 
because I'll be offline tomorrow (I don't know why the release was scheduled 
on such an inconvenient time, but so be it). We can do it correctly for KDE 
4.10 or 5.0, but I need the artwork in *now*. 

> . I think that fixing this issue today is the best thing to do. I
> would like to create kde-base-artworks for that kind of stuff.

Perfectly fine with that if you can do it *now* and not break anything and 
make it all work smoothly. As I think that is a too short notice, lets do it 
for 5.0.

Thanks,
Dirk
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Davide Bettio | 20 Dec 21:56
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Re: Re: git and artworks issues

On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:
>Perfectly fine with that if you can do it now and not break anything and 
>make it all work smoothly. As I think that is a too short notice, lets do it 
>for 5.0.

I do it now.

Bye,
Davide Bettio.
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Dirk Mueller | 20 Dec 23:32
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Re: git and artworks issues

On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:
> >Perfectly fine with that if you can do it now and not break anything and
> >make it all work smoothly. As I think that is a too short notice, lets do
> >it for 5.0.
> 
> I do it now.

could you please do it in /branches/KDE/4.8/kde-base-artwork instead and let 
me know once it is in?

Thanks,
Dirk
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Davide Bettio | 20 Dec 23:35
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Re: git and artworks issues

Hi,

>could you please do it in /branches/KDE/4.8/kde-base-artwork instead and let 
>me know once it is in?
I've already been working on trunk. I'll ack you as soon as possibile.

Bye,
Davide Bettio.
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Davide Bettio | 21 Dec 00:30
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Re: git and artworks issues

Hi,

Ok, I've done everything except kdeui/about thing.
What are we going to do? Are we going to create KDE/4.8 or what?

Bye,
Davide Bettio.
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Dirk Mueller | 21 Dec 01:54
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Re: git and artworks issues

On Wednesday 21 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:

> Ok, I've done everything except kdeui/about thing.
> What are we going to do? Are we going to create KDE/4.8 or what?

there is a KDE/4.8 branch in kdelibs now, please push it there and let me know 
when done. 

Thanks!
Dirk
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Davide Bettio | 21 Dec 02:08
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Re: Re: git and artworks issues

Hi,

On Wednesday 21 December 2011, Dirk Mueller wrote:
>there is a KDE/4.8 branch in kdelibs now, please push it there and let me know 
>when done. 
I've done and pushed everything.

Good Night,
Davide Bettio.
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Albert Astals Cid | 20 Dec 23:05
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Re: git and artworks issues

El Dimarts, 20 de desembre de 2011, a les 21:47:05, Dirk Mueller va escriure:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:
> > I'm sorry to discuss this thing now, but I've seen all the new artworks
> > recently. Anyway the point is that everything will remain in
> > kde-workspace history forever so moving it away at that point will not
> > decrease space usage
> 
> I know, but it is 4 days before holiday season and I need to get RC1 out,
> because I'll be offline tomorrow (I don't know why the release was scheduled
> on such an inconvenient time, but so be it).

I'll apply the same rule you applied to Davide and say that if you did not 
find the release date convinient you should have commented when the schedule 
was posted, not months after.

Albert
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Dirk Mueller | 20 Dec 23:33
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On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Albert Astals Cid wrote:

> > I know, but it is 4 days before holiday season and I need to get RC1 out,
> > because I'll be offline tomorrow (I don't know why the release was
> > scheduled on such an inconvenient time, but so be it).
> I'll apply the same rule you applied to Davide and say that if you did not
> find the release date convinient you should have commented when the
> schedule was posted, not months after.

As I said, so be it. I can do it today, as I reserved me time to do it today. 
I can not wait until XYZ is in though because I'll be offline then. 

Greetings,
Dirk
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Albert Astals Cid | 21 Dec 00:39
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Re: git and artworks issues

El Dimarts, 20 de desembre de 2011, a les 20:18:17, Dirk Mueller va escriure:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2011, Davide Bettio wrote:
> > As every year some artworks are changed according to the new default
> > desktop background. This year I noticed some problems:
> > 
> > 1) kdm and ksplash default theme is part of kde-workspace. I need to
> > update both, but if I do that I will have to commit about 20/30 MiB of
> > PNGs making git clones bigger.
> 
> Thats life, you need to push it there. We can decide to move it to other
> places after 4.8.0, but now it is a bit too late.
> 
> > 2) I need to update kdeui/about backgrounds, but If I do that I will
> > change backgrounds also for the KDE 4.7 branch.
> 
> There are two possibilities:
> 
> a)  create a kdelibs KDE/4.8 branch for this purpose. (plus the patch to
> make kdelibs 4.7 actually look like KDE 4.8, which I currently apply to the
> tarballs only (in kde-common/release/make-kdelibs-4.8.diff)

Yes please, create a KDE/4.8 branch too for kdelibs.

Albert

> 
> b) add a tarball of artwork that I need to unpack in kdelibs prior to
> creating the actual release tarball to kde-common/release/* as well)
> 
> For me, it would make most sense to create a KDE 4.8 branch in kdelibs, but
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