Jason Dillon | 10 Aug 20:57
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New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3- 
SNAPSHOT.  This contains a bunch of stuff.  See the road-map for more  
details:

     http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all  
happy happy I'm going to release it shortly.  So, please, please give  
it a try and let me know if anything breaks.

Thanks,

--jason
Brian Schlining | 11 Aug 05:18

Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

Hi Jason, 

Very cool! I'll switch a few of my builds over to the new version tomorrow and take it for a spin. I'm looking forward to trying out the new console and shell goals. Thanks for your effort!
Brian

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:58, Jason Dillon <jason-vhcKWCaVd9RWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT.  This contains a bunch of stuff.  See the road-map for more details:

   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all happy happy I'm going to release it shortly.  So, please, please give it a try and let me know if anything breaks.

Thanks,

--jason

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Dan Sline | 11 Aug 06:30

[groovy-user] Groovy Development time vs. Java Development time- any studies out there?

All,

 

I know that developing in Groovy (and Grails) can reduce the costs over standard Java and Web Development.  I have a friend of mine, who is evaluating whether to pitch to upper management to do his next project in Groovy/Grails.    

 

Are there any studies or examples that you have to help justify/quantify  a cost savings (which I know there is a cost savings) to develop in Groovy from both the initial development phase and maintaining the Groovy codebase in the long run?  Since Groovy is dynamically typed, were there any additional test cases that you needed to run to prove that the code behaved as expected?

 

Thanks in advance,

Dan Sline

dan AT slinestop.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/dansline 

Jochen Theodorou | 11 Aug 10:43
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Re: [groovy-user] Groovy Development time vs. Java Development time- any studies out there?

Dan Sline schrieb:
> All,
> 
>  
> 
> I know that developing in Groovy (and Grails) can reduce the costs over 
> standard Java and Web Development.  I have a friend of mine, who is 
> evaluating whether to pitch to upper management to do his next project 
> in Groovy/Grails.    
> 
> Are there any studies or examples that you have to help justify/quantify 
>  a cost savings (which I know there is a cost savings) to develop in 
> Groovy from both the initial development phase and maintaining the 
> Groovy codebase in the long run?  Since Groovy is dynamically typed, 
> were there any additional test cases that you needed to run to prove 
> that the code behaved as expected?

I think you should ask this on the grails user list. At last for Web 
development you should get some data. If your doubts are about dynamic 
typing, then you could maybe use some of the comparisons Rails vs. Java. 
As fair/unfair they might be. There is for example 
http://www.infoq.com/news/2006/11/tim-bray-intrinsics which is surely no 
study. But I think the point, that a reduced code size reduces the 
maintainance costs as well is something to think about. sure, Groovy is 
not Ruby, but the code sizes are often comparable, and I know that a 
program in Groovy often takes less than 40% of statements than Java.

Well, that's no direct help at all, but maybe a hint

bye blackdrag

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Jason Dillon | 12 Aug 13:44
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Re: [groovy-user] Groovy Development time vs. Java Development time- any studies out there?

Please don't start new threads as replies to other threads.

--jason


On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Dan Sline wrote:

All,

 

I know that developing in Groovy (and Grails) can reduce the costs over standard Java and Web Development.  I have a friend of mine, who is evaluating whether to pitch to upper management to do his next project in Groovy/Grails.    

 

Are there any studies or examples that you have to help justify/quantify  a cost savings (which I know there is a cost savings) to develop in Groovy from both the initial development phase and maintaining the Groovy codebase in the long run?  Since Groovy is dynamically typed, were there any additional test cases that you needed to run to prove that the code behaved as expected?

 

Thanks in advance,

Dan Sline


Brian Schlining | 11 Aug 18:15

Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

Hi Jason,

What repo did you deploy the snapshots for 1.0-rc-3 too? 

Thanks
Brian

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:58, Jason Dillon <jason-vhcKWCaVd9RWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT.  This contains a bunch of stuff.  See the road-map for more details:

   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all happy happy I'm going to release it shortly.  So, please, please give it a try and let me know if anything breaks.

Thanks,

--jason

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Jason Dillon | 12 Aug 13:44
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Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

The usual place:


--jason


On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Brian Schlining wrote:

Hi Jason,

What repo did you deploy the snapshots for 1.0-rc-3 too? 

Thanks
Brian

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:58, Jason Dillon <jason-vhcKWCaVd9RWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT.  This contains a bunch of stuff.  See the road-map for more details:

   http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel

Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all happy happy I'm going to release it shortly.  So, please, please give it a try and let me know if anything breaks.

Thanks,

--jason

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Brian Schlining | 12 Aug 17:49

Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

Ahhh...I forgot about that repo. Thanks!

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 04:44, Jason Dillon <jason-vhcKWCaVd9RWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
The usual place:


--jason


On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Brian Schlining wrote:

Hi Jason,

What repo did you deploy the snapshots for 1.0-rc-3 too? 



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Andres Almiray | 11 Aug 20:55
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Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test


Will give it a try with GB 0.7-SNAPSHOT and let you know. Like the new
console upgrade :-)

Jason Dillon wrote:
> 
> I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3- 
> SNAPSHOT.  This contains a bunch of stuff.  See the road-map for more  
> details:
> 
>     
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel
> 
> Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all  
> happy happy I'm going to release it shortly.  So, please, please give  
> it a try and let me know if anything breaks.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --jason
> 

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Garvin LeClaire | 12 Aug 03:08

Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

Looks good to me.   I am using it for the Maven Findbugs plugin as well as the SHITTY plugin and all is fine here.

Regards, Garvin LeClaire garvin.leclaire-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

Andres Almiray wrote:
Will give it a try with GB 0.7-SNAPSHOT and let you know. Like the new console upgrade :-) Jason Dillon wrote:
I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3- SNAPSHOT. This contains a bunch of stuff. See the road-map for more details: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all happy happy I'm going to release it shortly. So, please, please give it a try and let me know if anything breaks. Thanks, --jason
Jason Dillon | 13 Aug 14:43
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[groovy-dev] Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test

Okay, so far no negative news.  If this is still the case tomorrow I am going to publish the release... so if you have any problems with the latest snapshot, lemme know NOW :-)

--jason


On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:08 AM, Garvin LeClaire wrote:

Looks good to me.   I am using it for the Maven Findbugs plugin as well as the SHITTY plugin and all is fine here.

Regards, Garvin LeClaire garvin.leclaire-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org

Andres Almiray wrote:
Will give it a try with GB 0.7-SNAPSHOT and let you know. Like the new console upgrade :-) Jason Dillon wrote:
I've just deployed a new set of snapshots for GMaven 1.0-rc-3- SNAPSHOT. This contains a bunch of stuff. See the road-map for more details: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel Anyways, just wanted folks to give this new snap a test and if its all happy happy I'm going to release it shortly. So, please, please give it a try and let me know if anything breaks. Thanks, --jason

Luke Daley | 13 Aug 15:00

Re: [groovy-dev] Re: [groovy-user] New GMaven 1.0-rc-3-SNAPSHOT deployed; Please Test


On 13/08/2008, at 10:43 PM, Jason Dillon wrote:

> Okay, so far no negative news.  If this is still the case tomorrow I  
> am going to publish the release... so if you have any problems with  
> the latest snapshot, lemme know NOW :-)

Sorry buddy, http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MGROOVY-161

I am waiting on rc3 to release a new version of my product, tried a  
build to be safe and got that.

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Robert Fischer | 13 Aug 15:14
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[groovy-dev] Next 1.6 beta?

Is there an ETA on the next 1.6 beta?

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Danno Ferrin | 14 Aug 17:44
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Tangent, when there is the next beta, can I get a 1 week code cutoff notice?  I got some stuff in the Griffon module i want to bring over.

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Guillaume Laforge | 14 Aug 17:53
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Re: [groovy-dev] Next 1.6 beta?

Sure.
Currently, no definitive date has been decided.
The summer vacations often slow things a bit :-)

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