Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... -- -- Dan
On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... > -- > Dan Excellent. Great work guys! -- -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney <at> gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net
OK, I'm a bit confused now. Is this coming from the pdx.rb google group or is this the old list revived? If it's that latter, is the google group essentially dead? Phil On 6/6/07, Thomas Lockney <tlockney <at> gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > > Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... > > -- > > Dan > > Excellent. Great work guys! > > > -- > Thomas Lockney | tlockney <at> gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org > IRC: #pdx.rb on irc.freenode.net > http://lists.pdxruby.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxruby >
On 6/13/07, Phil Tomson <philtomson <at> gmail.com> wrote: > OK, I'm a bit confused now. Is this coming from the pdx.rb google > group or is this the old list revived? If it's that latter, is the > google group essentially dead? > > Phil After the lists.pdxruby.org mailinglists were fixed then the groups.google.com list was created. This mail message is from the lists.pdxruby.org server.
Do you guys think forwarding all incoming mail to the new google group will be helpful, I can also set up a redirect on the lists.pdxruby.org site to the new group. Should be pretty self evident of what the deal is. Also, does google have any way to import the old newgroup database as far as archived messages or do we care? Daniel Johnson wrote: > On 6/13/07, Phil Tomson <philtomson <at> gmail.com> wrote: > >> OK, I'm a bit confused now. Is this coming from the pdx.rb google >> group or is this the old list revived? If it's that latter, is the >> google group essentially dead? >> >> Phil >> > > After the lists.pdxruby.org mailinglists were fixed then the > groups.google.com list was created. This mail message is from the > lists.pdxruby.org server. > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org > IRC: #pdx.rb on irc.freenode.net > http://lists.pdxruby.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxruby >
On 6/13/07, Josh Martin <jmartin <at> webwideconsulting.com> wrote: > Do you guys think forwarding all incoming mail to the new google group > will be helpful, I can also set up a redirect on the lists.pdxruby.org > site to the new group. Should be pretty self evident of what the deal > is. Also, does google have any way to import the old newgroup database > as far as archived messages or do we care? No, I don't think we should forward: that would cause too much confusion for people who are not on the one or the other list and could cause some ugly problems on the servers themselves (I'm not even sure how the forward would work given that both lists only accept mail from subscribers -- what happens when someone isn't subscribed to one?). As for the archives, the list is currently archived by gmane. I am hoping to get the google group pointed to the same in the near future, but I suspect that's going to take a lot of effort given that I don't know who originally got us set up over there (Robby?). -- -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney <at> gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net
On 6/13/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/13/07, Phil Tomson <philtomson <at> gmail.com> wrote: > > OK, I'm a bit confused now. Is this coming from the pdx.rb google > > group or is this the old list revived? If it's that latter, is the > > google group essentially dead? The old list is still running, but we are trying to get everyone using the new list. It seemed logical to keep them both up and running for a short period of time so that we could make sure everyone on the old list knew about the new one. We will need to adjust the pointers on the current site (need to get someone with access to the login to do this) and then probably make this list read only for some period of time before shutting it down completely. ~thomas
Ack! I've been trying for months to join this list and finally it works today.... and the first emails I get are about how this list is no more! :-o Ok, so I've joined the pdx.rb google group... that's the place now, right? Ben Thomas Lockney wrote: > On 6/13/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: >> On 6/13/07, Phil Tomson <philtomson <at> gmail.com> wrote: >>> OK, I'm a bit confused now. Is this coming from the pdx.rb google >>> group or is this the old list revived? If it's that latter, is the >>> google group essentially dead? > > The old list is still running, but we are trying to get everyone using > the new list. It seemed logical to keep them both up and running for a > short period of time so that we could make sure everyone on the old > list knew about the new one. We will need to adjust the pointers on > the current site (need to get someone with access to the login to do > this) and then probably make this list read only for some period of > time before shutting it down completely. > > ~thomas > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org > IRC: #pdx.rb on irc.freenode.net > http://lists.pdxruby.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxruby(Continue reading)
On 6/13/07, Ben Munat <bent <at> munat.com> wrote: > Ack! I've been trying for months to join this list and finally it works today.... and the first > emails I get are about how this list is no more! :-o Well, there's one of the reasons we've moved it. ;~) > Ok, so I've joined the pdx.rb google group... that's the place now, right? Yup. -- -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney <at> gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net
Funny: now I'm getting all the mailman confirmation emails from my previous attempts to join the list.... I've never liked mailman... nice to let google deal with it! Ben Thomas Lockney wrote: > On 6/13/07, Ben Munat <bent <at> munat.com> wrote: >> Ack! I've been trying for months to join this list and finally it works today.... and the first >> emails I get are about how this list is no more! :-o > > Well, there's one of the reasons we've moved it. ;~) > >> Ok, so I've joined the pdx.rb google group... that's the place now, right? > > Yup. >
I suggest sending an email out to the old list, saying it is being killed effective today, with a link to the new list..and signup information (how to for non gmail users). Then just shut it off. Update the website and point it to the new list.. and the old archives if need be. I don't see a point in keeping the old list running at this point. It was dead for months anyway.
On 6/13/07, eliott <eliott <at> cactuswax.net> wrote: > I suggest sending an email out to the old list, saying it is being > killed effective today, with a link to the new list..and signup > information (how to for non gmail users). That's already been done, but I'll resend it shortly. > Then just shut it off. Update the website and point it to the new > list.. and the old archives if need be. Yes, agreed. Done. At least as far as shutting down this list. -- -- Thomas Lockney | tlockney <at> gmail.com | http://opposable-thumbs.net
Just to add to the confusion, it looks like a lot of backlogged email is getting sent out now. Not sure why this is happening. I hope it doesn't cause too much confusion.
Five by five. On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... > -- > Dan
On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Sam Livingston-Gray wrote: > Five by five. > > On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: >> Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... >> -- >> Dan > pong. -- Robby Russell Founder and Executive Director PLANET ARGON, LLC Ruby on Rails Development, Consulting & Hosting www.planetargon.com www.robbyonrails.com +1 503 445 2457 +1 877 55 ARGON [toll free] +1 815 642 4068 [fax]
On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... Thanks again for getting the list back up and running. I wonder, though, if there's any possibility of getting the incoming messages to the list run through SpamAssassin before they hit the moderation queue, as was happening with the prior incarnation? I only ask because, as one of the list moderators, I'm currently getting 40-60 "message awaiting moderation" notices for spam that hits the public list address, even though we have filtering enabled that drops messages with high SA scores. Thanks, Lennon
Lennon, Yeah I can set up SpamAssassin, shouldn't too much of an issue. I wonder if there is a way to whitelist all registered subscribers right off the top. - Josh Martin Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > >> Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... >> > > Thanks again for getting the list back up and running. I wonder, > though, if there's any possibility of getting the incoming messages to > the list run through SpamAssassin before they hit the moderation > queue, as was happening with the prior incarnation? > > I only ask because, as one of the list moderators, I'm currently > getting 40-60 "message awaiting moderation" notices for spam that hits > the public list address, even though we have filtering enabled that > drops messages with high SA scores. > > Thanks, > > Lennon > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org(Continue reading)
Yes, with Mailman, there's definitely a way. Spam emails shouldn't be able to get to the list at all. -Moxley Josh Martin wrote: > Lennon, > Yeah I can set up SpamAssassin, shouldn't too much of an issue. I > wonder if there is a way to whitelist all registered subscribers right > off the top. > > - Josh Martin > > Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > >> On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... >>> >>> >> Thanks again for getting the list back up and running. I wonder, >> though, if there's any possibility of getting the incoming messages to >> the list run through SpamAssassin before they hit the moderation >> queue, as was happening with the prior incarnation? >> >> I only ask because, as one of the list moderators, I'm currently >> getting 40-60 "message awaiting moderation" notices for spam that hits >> the public list address, even though we have filtering enabled that >> drops messages with high SA scores.(Continue reading)
On 6/7/07, Josh Martin <jmartin <at> webwideconsulting.com> wrote: > Yeah I can set up SpamAssassin, shouldn't too much of an issue. I > wonder if there is a way to whitelist all registered subscribers right > off the top. That's never really been an issue -- the 'drop' rule is set at a pretty ridiculously high SA score (like 12 or something), and I don't know that much of anything written by a human and sent from a valid source address could ever hit that point. Plus, whitelisting just exposes you to From-address spoofing. -Lennon
Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > Plus, whitelisting just exposes you to From-address spoofing. But no professional spammer is going to go through the trouble of discovering a From address to use on a small mailing list like this one. It's just not worth the trouble. -Moxley
I agree, but we should be able to just drop SA in to start with then work on any additional rules as needed. SA usually does a pretty good job w/o explicit white lists, but lets cross that road when we get there. Just a thought. Moxley Stratton wrote: > Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > >> Plus, whitelisting just exposes you to From-address spoofing. >> > But no professional spammer is going to go through the trouble of > discovering a From address to use on a small mailing list like this one. > It's just not worth the trouble. > > -Moxley > > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org > IRC: #pdx.rb on irc.freenode.net > http://lists.pdxruby.org/mailman/listinfo/pdxruby >
Oops- BTW This is a new install and is not on the old host. We just migrated all the old data over so we are missing SA and/or clamav, stuff like that at the moment. Although its debian and exim so it should be no issue to drop in and get running. Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote: > On 6/6/07, Daniel Johnson <teknotus <at> gmail.com> wrote: > >> Testing 1, 2, 3 Testing... >> > > Thanks again for getting the list back up and running. I wonder, > though, if there's any possibility of getting the incoming messages to > the list run through SpamAssassin before they hit the moderation > queue, as was happening with the prior incarnation? > > I only ask because, as one of the list moderators, I'm currently > getting 40-60 "message awaiting moderation" notices for spam that hits > the public list address, even though we have filtering enabled that > drops messages with high SA scores. > > Thanks, > > Lennon > > _______________________________________________ > PDXRuby mailing list > PDXRuby <at> lists.pdxruby.org > IRC: #pdx.rb on irc.freenode.net(Continue reading)
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