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Squeaker | 31 Aug 16:34

Customizing Pier

Greetings,

I am just starting to poke around Pier and I am trying to figure out how 
to hide the "Views" menu from a non-admin user.

I can change the permissions for "Other" so that there are no menu 
choices under the "Views" menu but the box with the word "Views" still 
appears. I would like this to not be shown.  How can this be done?

Just to clarify, what I mean by the "Views" menu is the menu on the left 
hand side.  There are three menus on the lhs: Views, Commands and 
Navigation.  I want the Views menu to not appear at all.

Thanks,
Frank

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Tudor Girba | 31 Aug 22:53
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Hi,

Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow  
you to put away the View from the list of available commands.

Cheers,
Doru

On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Squeaker wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I am just starting to poke around Pier and I am trying to figure out  
> how
> to hide the "Views" menu from a non-admin user.
>
> I can change the permissions for "Other" so that there are no menu
> choices under the "Views" menu but the box with the word "Views" still
> appears. I would like this to not be shown.  How can this be done?
>
> Just to clarify, what I mean by the "Views" menu is the menu on the  
> left
> hand side.  There are three menus on the lhs: Views, Commands and
> Navigation.  I want the Views menu to not appear at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Frank
>
>
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Squeaker | 1 Sep 15:54

Re: Customizing Pier

Tudor Girba wrote:
> Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow  
> you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
> 

Thanks for the help.

I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is 
to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.

Maybe I can pose a different question:  How do I get the entire sidebar 
to not appear?  I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint:

 > If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view
 > permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
 > means you remove all the permissions from Group and
 > Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
 > be displayed.

But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for 
the side-bar page.

Thanks again,
Frank

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David Zmick | 1 Sep 17:20

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I would like to send you my pdf, but I cant attach it.  I will get it to you somehow.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Squeaker <squeakman <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Tudor Girba wrote:
> Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow
> you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
>

Thanks for the help.

I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is
to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.

Maybe I can pose a different question:  How do I get the entire sidebar
to not appear?  I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint:

 > If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view
 > permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
 > means you remove all the permissions from Group and
 > Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
 > be displayed.

But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for
the side-bar page.

Thanks again,
Frank


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Tudor Girba | 1 Sep 18:31
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Hi again,

I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have  
somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed  
by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget.

The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page,  
widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says  
"Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set  
the rights for this page like you did for the widget only.

Does this help?

Cheers,
Doru

On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Squeaker wrote:

> Tudor Girba wrote:
>> Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow
>> you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
>>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is
> to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.
>
> Maybe I can pose a different question:  How do I get the entire  
> sidebar
> to not appear?  I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this  
> hint:
>
>> If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view
>> permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
>> means you remove all the permissions from Group and
>> Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
>> be displayed.
>
> But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions  
> for
> the side-bar page.
>
> Thanks again,
> Frank
>
>
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Squeaker | 1 Sep 20:52

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Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have  
> somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed  
> by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget.
> 
> The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page,  
> widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says  
> "Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set  
> the rights for this page like you did for the widget only.
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 

Thanks that has helped me a bit in putting the pieces together.

Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can 
add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?

Cheers,
Frank

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Lukas Renggli | 1 Sep 20:57
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> Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can
> add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?

These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are  
part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named  
"Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more  
complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure  
within your kernel:

    +/+ to embed the root page
    +/information/license+ to embed the license
    +..+ to embed the parent structure
    etc.

Cheers,
Lukas

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Squeaker | 2 Sep 17:41

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Lukas Renggli wrote:
>> Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can
>> add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?
> 
> These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are  
> part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named  
> "Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more  
> complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure  
> within your kernel:
> 
>     +/+ to embed the root page
>     +/information/license+ to embed the license
>     +..+ to embed the parent structure
>     etc.
> 
> Cheers,
> Lukas
> 

Ok, the light is going on!  Finally.

Of course I have more questions. My experimenting leads me to believe 
that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true?

I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per page basis as 
opposed to having one global design.

Another question: How does one go about creating a new kernel?

Many thanks,
Frank

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Lukas Renggli | 2 Sep 17:50
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>>    +/+ to embed the root page
>>    +/information/license+ to embed the license
>>    +..+ to embed the parent structure
>>    etc.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Lukas
>>
>
> Ok, the light is going on!  Finally.

Good. ;-)

> Of course I have more questions. My experimenting leads me to believe
> that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true?

No. The page "/environment" defines the default design (it is sort of  
a meta-page for Pier). In the settings of the root page you see that  
the environment is set to "/environment".

> I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per page basis as
> opposed to having one global design.

Now you can copy the default environment, modify it and go to a  
different page. In the settings of this other page you select the  
copied environment. Here you go, now you have two different designs.  
Child structures will inherit the design of their parent, if the  
structure does not define the design.

> Another question: How does one go about creating a new kernel?

Evaluating

     PRPierFrame initialize

will guide you through the process of creating a new kernel and  
register it as a Seaside entry point. You might want to have a look at  
that code, to see how it exactly works (essentially it just creates an  
instance of PRKernel, creates a new Seaside application and tells it  
to use the new kernel instance).

Cheers,
Lukas

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Keith Hodges | 3 Sep 00:37

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The Pier-PersistencyManager has a UI for adding kernels

Keith

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David Zmick | 3 Sep 02:17

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i really wish i wasnt so busy, i have pdf i would love to put somewhere, put i just dont have time!

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges <at> yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
The Pier-PersistencyManager has a UI for adding kernels

Keith


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