Re: [ANN] Dependency Browser
hernan
we are currently porting moose to squeak.
After we will have DSM, package blueprint, dsitribution map, (check
our papers).
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Publications.html
Stef
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
> 2008/10/9 Lukas Renggli <renggli <at> gmail.com>
> Cool, user interface.
>
> However, you do not detect two other important static dependencies:
>
> - Package A subclasses a class of package B.
> - Package A extends a class of package B.
>
> Yes, I was aware of loose methods (I'm interpreting extends here
> means LM) and hierarchy references, and my idea was to add an
> OBColumn next to the code pane like
>
> http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/attachments/20080923/e19a0b11/attachment-0001.jpeg
>
> but it seems OmniBrowser do not allow this easily (creating a new
> column in a subclass of the traditional Standard Browser is even
> harder). You'll notice if I'm succeded in the next version :)
>
>
> We are using a similar tool to package Seaside. Unfortunately it has
> no GUI, but we are using GraphViz zu visualize the dependencies [1].
>
> That is the original idea. I have never tried GraphViz, but from the
> image in the link I can see GraphViz is able to ensure disjointness
> between nodes but the image looks confusing, tangled, from an user's
> perception view. It seems like the layout adjustement algorithm were
> unable to preserve symmetries from an input (or breaks down the
> topology for the sake of preserving a proximity model).
>
> Is there a link explaining how to use GraphVIz from Squeak? I
> presume if graphs could be showed inside the Squeak image, the whole
> and details view problem could be solved, achieving simultaneity and
> uniqueness (that means, facilities like the fish-eye view enabling
> different magnification ratios).
>
>
> Have a look at Package-Dependencies in
> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted>. It automatically calculates
> cycles and is able to hide transitive dependencies. It would be
> interesting to extend it further to also take selectors into account,
> that are only implemented in a single package.
>
> I will take a look at it.
> Cheers.
>
> Hernán
>
>
>
> There are other tools available: MudPie [2] and Moose [3].
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> [1] http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/dropbox/seaside-2.9/seaside.png
> [2] http://map.squeak.org/package/617dbc24-e029-4d8c-a941-68db8c867952
> [3] http://moose.unibe.ch/
>
> On 10/9/08, David T. Lewis <lewis <at> mail.msen.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 03:17:40PM -0300, Hern??n Morales Durand
> wrote:
> > > Dear Squeakers,
> > > If you ever wondered how to observe dependencies between
> packages in the
> > > image, now you can use this new Dependency Browser.
> Instructions for using
> > > it are in the following pages:
> > >
> > > Castellano : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-es.php
> >
> > > Fran??ais : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-fr.php
> >
> > > English : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-en.php
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> >
> > > Hern??n
> >
> > I have not installed this to try it yet, but the DependencyWalker
> looks
> > like a really interesting idea!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>
>
>
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