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Janko Mivšek | 13 Jul 21:01
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Download box, order, adding Linux

Hi,

I'm just implementing a download box component for a squeaksite demo and 
wondering if:

- Linux should be added
- order changed: Linux, Mac, Windows, Others

Now it is Windows, Mac and Others (see top left box on every page).

I think adding Linux is a must, because Linux is prime example of Open 
Source movement, part of it we are too.

That's also a reason that Windows as the complete antitesis of OS 
movement is put down from the first place. Well, there are still many 
Windows users coming as newcomers, but I think there are more and more 
Mac users right now, so ...

What do you think?
Janko
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Brad Fuller | 14 Jul 05:42

Re: Download box, order, adding Linux

I'd like to see more emphasis on Linux as well. It used to be all
*nix's but Linux (I think) is predominant for people using, or
searching for squeak

On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek <at> eranova.si> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just implementing a download box component for a squeaksite demo and
> wondering if:
>
> - Linux should be added
> - order changed: Linux, Mac, Windows, Others
>
> Now it is Windows, Mac and Others (see top left box on every page).
>
> I think adding Linux is a must, because Linux is prime example of Open
> Source movement, part of it we are too.
>
> That's also a reason that Windows as the complete antitesis of OS movement
> is put down from the first place. Well, there are still many Windows users
> coming as newcomers, but I think there are more and more Mac users right
> now, so ...
>
> What do you think?
> Janko
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Michael van der Gulik | 29 Aug 02:28

Re: Download box, order, adding Linux

Janko Mivšek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just implementing a download box component for a squeaksite demo 
> and wondering if:
>
> - Linux should be added
> - order changed: Linux, Mac, Windows, Others
>
> Now it is Windows, Mac and Others (see top left box on every page).
>
> I think adding Linux is a must, because Linux is prime example of Open 
> Source movement, part of it we are too.
>
> That's also a reason that Windows as the complete antitesis of OS 
> movement is put down from the first place. Well, there are still many 
> Windows users coming as newcomers, but I think there are more and more 
> Mac users right now, so ...
>
> What do you think?

Being a pragmatist, I think it would be better to get a survey from the 
rest of the community or get download statistics and list them in order 
of popularity.

I don't really care what the hardware or OS is; Squeak is it's own 
environment that turns everything below it into a replaceable commodity.

Gulik.
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David Mitchell | 29 Aug 14:45

Re: Download box, order, adding Linux

The site is about Squeak, not about OS.

I've been running Macs since 1988 and have a fine collection in my
basement. I still have a working OS X box and an OS 9 laptop box that
my daughter uses. My sons both run Ubuntu daily. My wife runs Windows.
I mostly use my laptop from work running Windows.

I run Squeak on all of them. Often the same image (the old Mac laptop
is the exception).

Now if you wanted a reason to favor Mac, Squeak's history traces
through Apple Smalltalk (and some of the GUI still has some Mac-isms
that go back to something like System 6 or earlier (before we started
calling it OS anything).

The reason to list Windows first is probably because that is the most
frequently downloaded.

The pro Mac and anti-Windows stuff makes no sense to me at all. Most
companies are incredibly closed when they have the dominant position
(Apple iTunes) and more open when they aren't (IBM). Most are quite
schizophrenic in this regard with some groups within the company being
more open and others more closed. If you want to know which is which,
check their market position. Even Microsoft has been open-sourcing
some components; RedHat has tried to close up parts of their
Enterprise offering.

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Michael van der Gulik
<mikevdg@...> wrote:
> Janko Mivšek wrote:
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