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Craig Latta | 20 Mar 01:04
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the Squeak board's recommendation for the web team, 2008-03-19


Hi--

      (From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...)

      Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website.
It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and
continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are
that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates
happen in a timely fashion. While we don't think a change in the site's
infrastructure is strictly necessary to address those concerns, we like
what Janko has done so far and appreciate the energy he has brought to
the task.

      We exhausted the hour we had for the meeting before addressing
Brian Rice's request (about updating the content at the current site).
Sorry about that, Brian. Speaking for myself, it looks like Janko's demo
is far enough along that Brian might be able to make the updates there.
I'm hoping that he and Janko can come to some agreement about this. As
the Teams coordinator, I'm happy to help further that discussion.

      Finally, the board agrees that the web team list is a better place
than squeak-dev to discuss the website.

      thanks!

-C

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Craig Latta
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Jason Rogers | 22 Mar 04:21
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Re: the Squeak board's recommendation for the web team, 2008-03-19

Congratulations Janko and welcome aboard!

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Craig Latta <craig <at> netjam.org> wrote:
>
>  Hi--
>
>       (From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...)
>
>       Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website.
>  It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and
>  continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are
>  that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates
>  happen in a timely fashion. While we don't think a change in the site's
>  infrastructure is strictly necessary to address those concerns, we like
>  what Janko has done so far and appreciate the energy he has brought to
>  the task.
>
>       We exhausted the hour we had for the meeting before addressing
>  Brian Rice's request (about updating the content at the current site).
>  Sorry about that, Brian. Speaking for myself, it looks like Janko's demo
>  is far enough along that Brian might be able to make the updates there.
>  I'm hoping that he and Janko can come to some agreement about this. As
>  the Teams coordinator, I'm happy to help further that discussion.
>
>       Finally, the board agrees that the web team list is a better place
>  than squeak-dev to discuss the website.
>
>
>       thanks!
>
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Janko Mivšek | 20 Mar 11:28
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Re: the Squeak board's recommendation for the web team, 2008-03-19

Dear Web team,

I'd like to thank the Squeak board for expressing so strong confidence
on me and Aida community and I hope Squeakers will now accept our
proposal to run Squeak website and improve it, both technically and
their content.

I'll try my best that stated goals will be achieved and that the website
will do the best to show a good image of Squeak to outside world on one
side and a rich and up-to-date place for information for Squeak
community on the other.

If you agree I would continue improving the demo to have a full 
functionality + new guarded Contact us as soon as possible. I'd very 
like to hear your comments and suggestions to make that site really good 
and complete before switching.

Best regards
Janko

Craig Latta wrote:
> 
> Hi--
> 
>      (From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...)
> 
>      Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website.
> It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and
> continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are
> that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates
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Brad Fuller | 20 Mar 16:05
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Re: the Squeak board's recommendation for the web team, 2008-03-19

Welcome aboard Janko! And thanks for all the work you've done showing Aida.

The most important job is making sure content is updated in a timely
manner. There are dedicated people on the team  - we just have little
time to update the content, let alone fix lengthy pages. There's lots
to do on the site to bring it up to date. But, I must say, that it's
come a long way.

I want to state that I stand by my statement that I believe we should
continue utilizing Smalltalk as the engine to the website. (I also
want to point out that I didn't see that the SqF concluded that Aida
should be utilized. I think that's up to us.) There are lots of great
website engines that have the capabilities that would work just fine
for our needs - easy to deploy and easy keep up to date (Mambo/Joomla
comes to mind.) But, we are a special website. We represent a
community of people that believe Smalltalk, and Squeak in particular,
is a great development and deployment environment. The community's
goals are the promotion and enhancement of Squeak, among many others.
Utilizing another engine does not promote these goals, it detracts
from it. I think it's a shame that we would not use Smalltalk in this
endeavor, to show visitors as well as old-timers, that we walk the
talk.

brad
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Janko Mivšek | 21 Mar 11:58
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Re: the Squeak board's recommendation for the web team, 2008-03-19

Hi Brad,

Thank you for your warm welcome!

Yes, content is our main concern, that's why our "users" see and expect 
from us and that's what we need to provide them in a time we have and it 
is always short. Here comes also my idea to extend content maintenance 
duties to at least all teams, so that for instance a release team will 
be responsible to keep up-to-date the downloads section. Duty of web 
team will then be more a coordination and specially the new incentives 
to improve the website.

As you said, our website is a special one and to show a real Squeak 
strength we need to run it on Squeak. I think we all agree to that 
point. What we don't yet agree is a technology to use. And as you are 
all aware a "competition" is going right now. Well, so far so good, both 
contending communities will at the end have a better product, so I 
currently don't see a problem on that. And because I am part of of one 
side I'll also try to provide the best possible solution on our 
technology. For you to decide later, which way to go. I think that's 
most fair way to go.

Best regards
JAnko

Brad Fuller wrote:
> Welcome aboard Janko! And thanks for all the work you've done showing Aida.
> 
> The most important job is making sure content is updated in a timely
> manner. There are dedicated people on the team  - we just have little
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