Hi All, I want to sync notes from my iphone to my MacBook. I see that this is not supported by dafault. I checked out the App Store, not sure that I see anything. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks, -Jason
Hi Jason (et al.), I'm disappointed Apple hasn't provided a complete notes solution (and a little surprised since Jobs introduced his personal notes solution within Mail.app). I reckon they haven't seen the uptake they'd expected with this (what I think is a somewhat clumsy) solution and are rethinking their strategy (or perhaps they are just busy(Continue reading)On 09/08/2008, at 8:16 AM, J. Todd Slack wrote: > I want to sync notes from my iphone to my MacBook. I see that this > is not supported by dafault. I checked out the App Store, not sure > that I see anything. There are a number of possibilities, with third party apps mostly native but some also Web apps, but nothing (from what I've seen) completely integrated. > Does anybody have any suggestions? Personally, I'm thinking about just making a Notes folder within the IMAP folder hierarchy and saving draft or regular emails there. They will (I assume) sync to the iPhone's mail. One could even have rules (on the Macs) to automatically move emails which meet particular criteria (e.g. subject containing "NB:" to the folder).
On 11-Aug-2008, at 21:54, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Another possible solution would be to store your notes in Address > Book since contacts are searchable and sync'ed to the iPhone. Again > use some identifier and a "Smart Group" to filter. > > Has anyone else tried either of these "clumsy solutions"? Can you > think of any problems with this either of these approaches? I use Address Book for notes and have for several years as they get synched to my iPod. I still don't have an iPhone (sob!) but I plan to continue to do this. I don't understand the notes in Mail.app -- or they simply don't work right. It seems an odd place to store notes anyway... -- -- My biggest problem is that Steve insists on serving PURPLE Kool Aid, an I don't like PURPLE <sip sip> Kool Aid.
On 13/08/2008, at 2:04 AM, LuKreme wrote: > I don't understand the notes in Mail.app -- or they simply don't > work right. Yes, same with me. > It seems an odd place to store notes anyway... Yes, I agree. I think this was one of Steve's "great ideas" that was "way out there" but no-one was brave enough to tell him it sucked. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)
they whom i call Ashley Aitken wrote: > I think this was one of Steve's "great ideas" that was "way out there" > but no-one was brave enough to tell him it sucked. the funny thing is, when i'm on the phone and someone starts rattling off info i need to keep, i cmd-tab to Thunderbird, start a new message and start typing; that's because it's always running, and nothing better has gotten under my skin (i don't use Mail, nor Leopard, every day)
>they whom i call Ashley Aitken wrote: >>I think this was one of Steve's "great ideas" that was "way out >>there" but no-one was brave enough to tell him it sucked. > >the funny thing is, when i'm on the phone and someone starts >rattling off info i need to keep, i cmd-tab to Thunderbird, start a >new message and start typing; that's because it's always running, >and nothing better has gotten under my skin (i don't use Mail, nor >Leopard, every day) I've used Eudora for years for extensive note taking, it's easily searchable and easy to keep notes with specific folders for specific purposes. I know a number of other Eudora users that do the same thing, so note taking in email applications definitely has its place. Brian White
Yes, but all these features you suggest - always running, searchable, ... could easily be included in a Notes application with a hot-key to bring a quick entry panel to the front (like OmniFocus does). Heck, it would even be easy enough to extend Stickies.app to have a window for managing and searching a large number of notes with a flag (checkbox) to display a note as a sticky. A notes application is not difficult, integration with the OS and syncing with MobileMe and the iPhone is a little more work, but again not difficult (easier than Address Book). It's ok to have a separate app for contacts, and a separate app for mail, and a separate app for your calendar, but notes have to be hacked into Mail.app. Wrong (IMHO). Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Ashley Aitken <mrhatken@...> wrote: > > Yes, but all these features you suggest - always running, searchable, ... > could easily be included in a Notes application with a hot-key to bring a > quick entry panel to the front (like OmniFocus does). I thought the official iPhone SDK currently doesn't support apps running in the background... -- -- Best Regards, John Musbach
On 13/08/2008, at 10:11 AM, John Musbach wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Ashley Aitken <mrhatken@...> > wrote: >> >> Yes, but all these features you suggest - always running, >> searchable, ... >> could easily be included in a Notes application with a hot-key to >> bring a >> quick entry panel to the front (like OmniFocus does). > > I thought the official iPhone SDK currently doesn't support apps > running in the background... Yes, that's true, but Steve was talking about bringing Thunderbird to the foreground on his Mac to enter a note. I should have made it clear I was talking about note entry on a Mac as well, sorry. Cheers, Ashley. -- Ashley Aitken Perth, Western Australia mrhatken at mac dot com Skype Name: MrHatken (GMT + 8 Hours!)
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Ashley Aitken <mrhatken@...> wrote: > Yes, that's true, but Steve was talking about bringing Thunderbird to the > foreground on his Mac to enter a note. I should have made it clear I was > talking about note entry on a Mac as well, sorry. Oh oops, sorry for the misunderstanding -- -- Best Regards, John Musbach
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Heck, it would even be easy enough to extend Stickies.app to have a > window for managing and searching a large number of notes with a > flag (checkbox) to display a note as a sticky. You may know this already, but there is an example project with code for a Stickies clone that does synchronization: <http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/StickiesExample/index.html >. Some person with a bit of time could add the feature you describe. They could even add the feature *I'd* like, which is merging of changes made in different places the way CVS and SVN do. This reminds me of another note-taking idea I was going to try one of these days, which is SubEthaEdit, which allows people on multiple machines to collaboratively edit the same document. --Andy
Hi Andy (et al.), On 13/08/2008, at 10:51 AM, Andy Lee wrote: > On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: >> Heck, it would even be easy enough to extend Stickies.app to have a >> window for managing and searching a large number of notes with a >> flag (checkbox) to display a note as a sticky. > > You may know this already, but there is an example project with code > for a Stickies clone that does synchronization: <http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/StickiesExample/index.html > >. No, I wasn't aware of that - thanks for the heads up. Now that I think back, I believe Apple's Cocoa Training Course (at least when I took it a number of years ago) had lab exercises that built a stickies / notes application (so it can't be that hard(Continue reading)
they whom i call Ashley Aitken wrote: > > Yes, but all these features you suggest - always running, searchable, > ... could easily be included in a Notes application with a hot-key to > bring a quick entry panel to the front (like OmniFocus does). i have five or ten perfectly capable apps of that sort on my machine (incl. OmniFocus, OmniOutliner, BBEdit, Journlr ...); i could launch them or pass snippets to them easily, i just don't; it seems i need to do some self retraining, something i'm philosophically open to, but it just hasn't happened in practice; i suppose if i got an iP*, i'd probably be adjusting so much that getting in the swing with OF would be doable (note that while i can see where Jobs got his inspiration, i have no need for a special "notes" feature added to my email app)
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:00 PM, steve harley wrote: > [...] i cmd-tab to Thunderbird, start a new message and start > typing; [...] On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Brian White wrote: > I've used Eudora for years for extensive note taking, it's easily > searchable and easy to keep notes with specific folders for specific > purposes. I know a number of other Eudora users that do the same > thing, so note taking in email applications definitely has its place. I did this when I used Eudora and I do now with Mail.app. I use email messages to keep a rough daily log of things I've done, and by putting the date in the subject line I can easily sort the emails chronologically. One nice thing about using Mail.app is that if I send myself a message containing notes, any URLs in the notes will be clickable. I wish URLs would be auto-sensed in the message while it's being composed, because it would be easier to validate the link by clicking on it. I should file a Radar on that. Now if only there were a way to easily embed hyperlinks to other email messages, I could almost have a little wiki entirely in Mail. I have a lot of older notes in an Xcode project, which works very well up to a point. Global search is done file by file, which is relatively slow, but good enough for most of my searches, and I do like the way search results are displayed with a little context. Unlike Mail, though, it doesn't give an easy way to make URLs clickable. I wonder if there is a text Service that can do that for me -- I'd select a whole document, invoke the Service, and URLs would become clickable. A very nice plus with Xcode is that I could easily put my notes into version control if I ever got around to it. A(Continue reading)
(Argh -- resending this without a suspicious header.) On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Personally, I'm thinking about just making a Notes folder within the > IMAP folder hierarchy and saving draft or regular emails there. > They will (I assume) sync to the iPhone's mail. I use this approach on my two Macs. But I just tried it very quickly on my iPhone and found it cumbersome. It gets in the way of reading regular mail. And when you edit a draft you have to make sure you hit Cancel rather than Send, and then when prompted you have to make sure you hit Save rather than Don't Save. Also I don't see the draft I created on my Mac, but maybe I've got something configured wrong. > Another possible solution would be to store your notes in Address > Book since contacts are searchable and sync'ed to the iPhone. Again > use some identifier and a "Smart Group" to filter. Interesting idea. The one thing I'd be concerned about is if you edit the same note on your iPhone and separately on your computer. I believe when you sync there will be a conflict and you'll be asked to choose one version over the other; AFAIK it doesn't offer to merge the two notes. But this might be enough of an edge case to overlook. --Andy
On Aug 11, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: > Personally, I'm thinking about just making a Notes folder within the > IMAP folder hierarchy and saving draft or regular emails there. > They will (I assume) sync to the iPhone's mail. I use this approach on my two Macs. But I just tried it very quickly on my iPhone and found it cumbersome. It gets in the way of reading regular mail. And when you edit a draft you have to make sure you hit Cancel rather than Send, and then when prompted you have to make sure you hit Save rather than Don't Save. Also I don't see the draft I created on my Mac, but maybe I've got something configured wrong. > Another possible solution would be to store your notes in Address > Book since contacts are searchable and sync'ed to the iPhone. Again > use some identifier and a "Smart Group" to filter. Interesting idea. The one thing I'd be concerned about is if you edit the same note on your iPhone and separately on your computer. I believe when you sync there will be a conflict and you'll be asked to choose one version over the other; AFAIK it doesn't offer to merge the two notes. But this might be enough of an edge case to overlook. --Andy
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