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mikecap | 15 Aug 21:33

Leopard reading HFS zip disks?

Hi everyone,

I have a friend who has a lot of old data on HFS formatted Zip disks  
(from an ancient machine running System 7), and has recently gotten a  
new iMac running Leopard.  Before I tell her to get a USB zip off of  
ebay, can someone confirm that 10.5.x can still read old HFS (not HFS 
+) disks?  I've tried googling, but can't find a definitive answer.

Thanks!

Mike
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steve harley | 15 Aug 23:47

Re: Leopard reading HFS zip disks?

they whom i call mikecap@... wrote:
> can someone confirm that 10.5.x can still read old HFS (not HFS+) 
> disks?  

Leopard's Disk Utility can still format volumes as plain old HFS 
(aka "Mac OS Standard"), so i would think it can read them too
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mikecap | 16 Aug 00:00

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On Aug 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, steve harley wrote:

> Leopard's Disk Utility can still format volumes as plain old HFS  
> (aka "Mac OS Standard"), so i would think it can read them too

Thanks, I didn't think to look there.  I'd say you're probably right.

Mike
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LuKreme | 16 Aug 00:31
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On 15-Aug-2008, at 16:00, mikecap@... wrote:
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, steve harley wrote:
>> Leopard's Disk Utility can still format volumes as plain old HFS  
>> (aka "Mac OS Standard"), so i would think it can read them too
>
> Thanks, I didn't think to look there.  I'd say you're probably right.

However, that is no guarantee that OS X will be able to see the Zip  
drive or the disk in it.

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mikecap | 16 Aug 01:07

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On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:31 PM, LuKreme wrote:
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> However, that is no guarantee that OS X will be able to see the Zip  
> drive or the disk in it.

True, but I remember having a USB ZIP working with 10.0 or 10.1, so  
I'm hoping that will still be the case.

Mike
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Matt Penna | 16 Aug 03:33

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On Aug 15, 2008, at 7:07 PM, mikecap@... wrote:

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> On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:31 PM, LuKreme wrote:
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>> However, that is no guarantee that OS X will be able to see the Zip  
>> drive or the disk in it.
>
> True, but I remember having a USB ZIP working with 10.0 or 10.1, so  
> I'm hoping that will still be the case.

USB Zip drives work fine under Leopard and require no drivers. I  
tested this the other day with a USB Zip 100 drive. Just plug and play.

	Matt
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David Herren | 23 Aug 15:00
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Anecdotally, I was amazed when I attached a SCSI Zip drive to my NeXT  
Dimension Cube (the zip stuff being released long after NeXT ceased to  
build hardware), and it worked with no drivers. I continue to use that  
configuration...

On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Matt Penna wrote:

> USB Zip drives work fine under Leopard and require no drivers. I  
> tested this the other day with a USB Zip 100 drive. Just plug and  
> play.

/david

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John Musbach | 16 Aug 03:34

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On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM,  <mikecap@...> wrote:
> I have a friend who has a lot of old data on HFS formatted Zip disks (from
> an ancient machine running System 7), and has recently gotten a new iMac
> running Leopard.  Before I tell her to get a USB zip off of ebay, can
> someone confirm that 10.5.x can still read old HFS (not HFS+) disks?  I've
> tried googling, but can't find a definitive answer.

Yes, it can

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R.L. Grigg | 16 Aug 04:37

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On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:34 PM, John Musbach wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM,  <mikecap@...> wrote:
>> I have a friend who has a lot of old data on HFS formatted Zip  
>> disks (from
>> an ancient machine running System 7), and has recently gotten a new  
>> iMac
>> running Leopard.  Before I tell her to get a USB zip off of ebay, can
>> someone confirm that 10.5.x can still read old HFS (not HFS+)  
>> disks?  I've
>> tried googling, but can't find a definitive answer.
>
> Yes, it can

Almost identical situation, but with NeXT-formatted Zip disks.
Any hope there?

Russ
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David Herren | 23 Aug 15:01
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If I can find a USB zip drive I'll try it with my own NeXT formatted  
zip discs. The only zip drives I have are scsi and I have no macs with  
scsi anymore.

On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:37 PM, R.L. Grigg wrote:

> Almost identical situation, but with NeXT-formatted Zip disks.
> Any hope there?

/david

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mikecap | 23 Aug 17:38

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Just to let everyone know, a USB Zip 250 had no problem with mounting  
System 7 era HFS formatted disks under Leopard, and my friend got her  
data back.

Thanks for all the replies,

Mike
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R.L. Grigg | 25 Aug 19:47

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We have a USB Zip drive and when I insert a Next-formatted Zip disc  
into it, Leopard asks me to either initialize the disc or eject it. :- 
( Dunno what formatting Next used for their filesystem.

Russ

On Aug 23, 2008, at 6:01 AM, David Herren wrote:

> If I can find a USB zip drive I'll try it with my own NeXT formatted  
> zip discs. The only zip drives I have are scsi and I have no macs  
> with scsi anymore.
>
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 10:37 PM, R.L. Grigg wrote:
>
>> Almost identical situation, but with NeXT-formatted Zip disks.
>> Any hope there?
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Robert La Ferla | 26 Aug 01:58
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:47 PM, R.L. Grigg wrote:

>  Dunno what formatting Next used for their filesystem.

NextStep used a variant of UFS.
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LuKreme | 26 Aug 14:28
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On 25-Aug-2008, at 11:47, R.L. Grigg wrote:
> We have a USB Zip drive and when I insert a Next-formatted Zip disc  
> into it, Leopard asks me to either initialize the disc or eject  
> it. :-( Dunno what formatting Next used for their filesystem.

Hmm.. I though NeXT used UFS.

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