MURTAGH Matt | 16 Nov 2010 02:15
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ZCM10 / Win7 Bundle Icons

Hi there list… it’s been a bit quiet but I thought I’d give it a go ;-)

 

I’ve done a bit of a search in the forums for this one to no avail… so I thought I’d see if anyone else has ever had this problem.

 

I have a user in ZCM10 (10.3.0a) who’s bundle icons won’t appear on their desktop/start menu on win7 workstations.

It only seems to be one user, I’ve tried installing the patch TID7005032 but to no avail. I’ve reinstalled the client on machines, even reimaged machines.

 

Has anyone had this issue? Any experiences with ZCM and Win7?

 

Thanks!

 

Matt Murtagh
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi there list&hellip; it&rsquo;s been a bit quiet but I thought I&rsquo;d give it a go ;-)<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;ve done a bit of a search in the forums for this one to no avail&hellip; so I thought I&rsquo;d see if anyone else has ever had this problem.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a user in ZCM10 (10.3.0a) who&rsquo;s bundle icons won&rsquo;t appear on their desktop/start menu on win7 workstations.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It only seems to be one user, I&rsquo;ve tried installing the patch TID7005032 but to no avail. I&rsquo;ve reinstalled the client on machines, even reimaged machines.<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Has anyone had this issue? Any experiences with ZCM and Win7?<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<p></p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><p>&nbsp;</p></p>
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John Neumann | 22 Nov 2010 23:16
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Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi guys,
 
Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject of this message.
 
As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have promised an archived version, though.
 
My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to the archived version of this event?
 
 
Thanks,
 
John
 
 
 
 
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<div>Hi guys,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Novell recently&nbsp;had a really decent looking online event as per the subject of this message.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have promised an archived version, though.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to the archived version of this event?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>John</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>John Neumann</div>
<div>Network Administrator</div>
<div>Aquinas College, Ashmore</div>
<div>p: (07) 5510 2888 </div>
<div>m: 0403 871 053</div>
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Paul Bart | 22 Nov 2010 23:49
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi John
 
If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann" <JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:
Hi guys,
 
Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject of this message.
 
As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have promised an archived version, though.
 
My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to the archived version of this event?
 
 
Thanks,
 
John
 
 
 
 
John Neumann
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Aquinas College, Ashmore
p: (07) 5510 2888
m: 0403 871 053
 

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<div>Hi John</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>If you e-mail Que Mangus <a href="mailto:qmangus <at> grouplink.net">qmangus <at> grouplink.net</a>&nbsp;he will give you a link I am sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann" &lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>
<div>Hi guys,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Novell recently&nbsp;had a really decent looking online event as per the subject of this message.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have promised an archived version, though.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to the archived version of this event?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>John</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>John Neumann</div>
<div>Network Administrator</div>
<div>Aquinas College, Ashmore</div>
<div>p: (07) 5510 2888 </div>
<div>m: 0403 871 053</div>
<div>e: <a href="mailto:jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au">jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</a>
</div>
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Michael Mollard | 22 Nov 2010 23:51
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.

 
Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

 
Thanks,

John

 

 
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Paul Bart | 23 Nov 2010 00:00
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Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(
 
And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start of the year.
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:
If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview


Thanks,

John




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<div>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start of the year.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard" &lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as<br>well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link<br>I am sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the<br>subject of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for<br>this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to<br>other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the<br>link<br>to the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview</a><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 5510 2888 <br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane<br>Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is<br>free<br>from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities<br>implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education,<br>its<br>employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or<br>consequence arising from this e-mail.&nbsp;&nbsp; &#65453;&#65453;&nbsp; <br><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the<br>BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic<br>Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from<br>computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied<br>by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its<br>employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or<br>consequence arising from this e-mail. <br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Disclaimer: Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure that material<br>contained in this email is free from computer viruses or other defects,<br>the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that<br>the user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted.<br>This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity<br>names above and may contain information that is confidential and<br>privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any<br>dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly<br>prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us<br>immediately by return email or telephone 07 3390 8555 and destroy the<br>original message. The contents of this message are provided without<br>responsibility in law for their accuracy or otherwise, and without<br>assumption of a duty of care by the School.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>_______________________________________________<br>NovellSchools mailing list<br>NovellSchools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools">http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools</a><br>
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Michael Mollard | 23 Nov 2010 00:02
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation

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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling
with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is
getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the
start of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

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CLARKE Jamie | 23 Nov 2010 00:20
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 

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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows
7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
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Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
Fax: 07 3390 8919

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

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Michael Mollard | 23 Nov 2010 00:22
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Ah, that'll teach me for reading my mail in reverse chronological order :-)
Was a bit surprised I thought no-one had mentioned it earlier.

>>> CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:20 AM >>>
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 

Jamie Clarke 
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
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To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows
7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate- 
corporation

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au 
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au 
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
Fax: 07 3390 8919

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F 
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

John Neumann
Network Administrator
Aquinas College, Ashmore
p: (07) 5510 2888
m: 0403 871 053
e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au 

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Paul Bart | 23 Nov 2010 05:51
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Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows
7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801
Fax: 07 3390 8919


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




John Neumann
Network Administrator
Aquinas College, Ashmore
p: (07) 5510 2888
m: 0403 871 053
e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au


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<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named<br>above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright.<br>If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the<br>permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must<br>not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in<br>reliance on this message. 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Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. 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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





Michael Mollard
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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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m: 0403 871 053
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi 
Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about 
that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after 
re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I 
know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to 
achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and 
it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg 
a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml 
script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint 
imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I 
couldnt find out much.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m 
kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC 
to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the 
server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get 
names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv 
linuxnames.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># 
Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig 
eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># 
Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat 
linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit 
ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add 
that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used 
the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
<div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have 
helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the 
end.</span></div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 
'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - 
Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>
<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have 
installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have 
managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to 
multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way 
Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie 
&lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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      <div>You must of 
      missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to 
      post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some 
      of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell 
      Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 
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      Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some 
      discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael 
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      23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has 
      been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link 
      either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, 
      potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive 
      given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop 
      some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the 
      year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 
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      you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as 
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      23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus 
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      On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John 
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      per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am 
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thanks for that. I am running ZenWorks on a Windows server, so I will look how to apply it in the windows environment.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 


>>> On 23/11/2010 at 3:32 PM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
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Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks for that.&nbsp;I am running ZenWorks on a Windows server, so I will look how to apply it in the windows environment.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
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<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 3:32 PM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
<div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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I'd be interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. 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I take the following to mean Microsoft owns the patent to Unix/Linux 
 
"Novell also announced it has entered into a definitive agreement for the concurrent sale of certain intellectual property assets to CPTN Holdings LLC, a consortium of technology companies organized by Microsoft Corporation"
 
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>>> "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:02 am >>>
Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling
with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is
getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the
start of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Michael Mollard" &lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:02 am &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Here's something that should start some discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a> <br>Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 <br>Fax: 07 3390 8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling<br>with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is<br>getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the<br>start of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as<br>well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link<br>I am sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the<br>subject of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for<br>this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to<br>other<br>organisations' online events instead. 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Michael Mollard | 23 Nov 2010 01:20
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There's some discussions going on that it might be the patent stuff in
the Wordperfect vs Microsoft Antitrust trial, which is up for appeal by
Novell.  This would make it 'go away'.

>>> "Seamus Cooley" <cooleys <at> iona.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 10:17 AM >>>
I take the following to mean Microsoft owns the patent to Unix/Linux 

"Novell also announced it has entered into a definitive agreement for
the concurrent sale of certain intellectual property assets to CPTN
Holdings LLC, a consortium of technology companies organized by
Microsoft Corporation"

Regards
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>>> "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:02 am >>>
Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
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Fax: 07 3390 8919

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling
with migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is
getting rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the
start of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

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Here you go guys, I ended up guessing it:
 
 
If it won't let you register post-event, use my e-mail address, and they have assigned a generic password of novell.
 
John
 

 
 
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>>> "Michael Mollard" <MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:51 AM >>>
If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to
other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview


Thanks,

John




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<br>Here you go guys, I ended up guessing it:</div>
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<div>If it won't let you register post-event, use my e-mail address, and they have assigned a generic password of novell.</div>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Michael Mollard" &lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:51 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as<br>well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link<br>I am sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the<br>subject of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for<br>this appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to<br>other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the<br>link<br>to the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview</a><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 5510 2888 <br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane<br>Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is<br>free<br>from computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities<br>implied by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education,<br>its<br>employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or<br>consequence arising from this e-mail.&nbsp;&nbsp; &#65453;&#65453;&nbsp; <br><br>-- <br>This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the<br>BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane Catholic<br>Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is free from<br>computer viruses or other defects. Except for responsibilities implied<br>by law that cannot be excluded, Brisbane Catholic Education, its<br>employees and agents will not be responsible for any loss, damage or<br>consequence arising from this e-mail. <br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Disclaimer: Whilst every attempt has been made to ensure that material<br>contained in this email is free from computer viruses or other defects,<br>the attached files are provided, and may only be used, on the basis that<br>the user assumes all responsibility for use of the material transmitted.<br>This email is intended only for the use of the individual or entity<br>names above and may contain information that is confidential and<br>privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any<br>dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is strictly<br>prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us<br>immediately by return email or telephone 07 3390 8555 and destroy the<br>original message. The contents of this message are provided without<br>responsibility in law for their accuracy or otherwise, and without<br>assumption of a duty of care by the School.<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>_______________________________________________<br>NovellSchools mailing list<br>NovellSchools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools">http://lists.redlands.qld.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/novellschools</a><br>
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Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; CLARKE Jamie  11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi 
Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about 
that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after 
re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I 
know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to 
achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and 
it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg 
a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml 
script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint 
imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I 
couldnt find out much.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m 
kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC 
to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the 
server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get 
names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv 
linuxnames.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># 
Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig 
eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># 
Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat 
linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit 
ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add 
that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used 
the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
<div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have 
helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the 
end.</span></div>
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 
'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - 
Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have 
installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have 
managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to 
multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
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<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way 
Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie 
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      On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 
      AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: 
      [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only 
      Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some 
      discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael 
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      8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 
      23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has 
      been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link 
      either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, 
      potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive 
      given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop 
      some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the 
      year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 
      AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If 
      you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as 
      well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 
      23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus 
      qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got 
      some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
      On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John 
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      per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am 
      AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, 
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      links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on 
      here have the link to<br>the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John 
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi John
 
Thank for the reply.  I think I understand the concept of the image-safe data, and from my reading so far it certainly exists in ZCM. My current problem is how do you assign workstation name to machines that did not have OS installed before. 
 
The additional problem I have is that I have to make a decision weather to buy maintenance on about 750 Ghost clients and buy another 150 full licenses or move to ZCM in the next 2 days.  We are in this crazy situation that we will have close to 880 machines for 650 students plus staff next year.
 
It would seem to me that I have not allowed enough time for this. 
 
At this stage it seems to me that the only way to start imaging session is to start it on server and then reboot the workstations and have then set to boot from the PXE server first- which is a bit of pain to have the machine set up like that for normal operations.
 
Cheers
 
Paul 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 7:25 PM, "John Neumann" <jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:
Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>Hi John</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank for the reply.&nbsp; I think I understand the concept of the image-safe data, and from my reading so far it certainly exists in ZCM.&nbsp;My current problem is how do you assign workstation name to machines that did not have OS installed before.&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The additional problem I have is that I have to make a decision weather to buy maintenance on about 750 Ghost clients and buy another 150 full licenses or move to ZCM in the next 2 days.&nbsp; We are in this crazy situation that we will have close to 880 machines for 650 students plus staff next year.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>It would seem to me that I have not allowed enough time for this.&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>At this stage it seems to me that the only way to start imaging session is to start it on server and then reboot the workstations and have then set to boot from the PXE server first- which is a bit of pain to have the machine set up like that for normal operations.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul&nbsp;<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 7:25 PM, "John Neumann" &lt;jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv</span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
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<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
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<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
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<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>Paul</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named<br>above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright.<br>If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the<br>permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must<br>not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in<br>reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or<br>confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed<br>because you have received this message in error. If you have received this<br>message in error please notify the sender and delete from any<br>computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this<br>message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of<br>the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst<br>all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims<br>all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this<br>message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a><br>Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801<br>Fax: 07 3390 8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to<br>the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane<br>Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is<br>free<br>from computer viruses or other defects. 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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

We haven't deployed ZCM imaging yet (long story), but I would think that
PXE as a first boot would be the ideal.  In ZCM (as I understand it),
you can tell a workstation to re-image at next boot.  PC boots from PXE,
checks for work to do, and reimages.  No contact personal visit
required.

Am I on track with this thinking?

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au 
Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801 
Fax: 07 3390 8919

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 10:36 PM >>>
Hi John

Thank for the reply.  I think I understand the concept of the
image-safe data, and from my reading so far it certainly exists in
ZCM.
My current problem is how do you assign workstation name to machines
that did not have OS installed before. 

The additional problem I have is that I have to make a decision
weather
to buy maintenance on about 750 Ghost clients and buy another 150 full
licenses or move to ZCM in the next 2 days.  We are in this crazy
situation that we will have close to 880 machines for 650 students
plus
staff next year.

It would seem to me that I have not allowed enough time for this. 

At this stage it seems to me that the only way to start imaging
session
is to start it on server and then reboot the workstations and have
then
set to boot from the PXE server first- which is a bit of pain to have
the machine set up like that for normal operations.

Cheers

Paul 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 7:25 PM, "John Neumann"
<jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say
that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why
there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the
management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly
procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the
concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks
Imaging
Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and
restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or
ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. 

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD
Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir.
The
problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID
change,
Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get
the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to
get
the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all
the
Novell tools instead.

John

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Network Administrator
Aquinas College, Southport
p: (07) 5510 2888
m: 0403 871 053
e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au 

>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,

:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue,
I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.  

I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they
use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the
imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed
(its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.

 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ
MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging
scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I
couldnt find out much.

Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking
myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the
MAC
to Workstation name conversion

#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv

# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)

# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME

 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging
bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it
working :)

Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the
name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of
Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only
Windows 7

Hi Jamie

Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have
installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and
I
have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have
also
managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.

I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a
way
Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.

 
Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have
dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 

Jamie Clarke 
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only
Windows
7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-

corporation

Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling
with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is
getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the
start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as
well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link
I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the
subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for
this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the
link
to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F

=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

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CLARKE Jamie | 24 Nov 2010 00:18
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Michael

Yeah that is the correct thinking Michael....I have all machines having PXE
as the first boot option and I believe this to be the best way.

Once you have your finger on imaging you may also want to start setting up
rules to cover your images eg I have a blanket MAC wild card for all my
HPDC7900 machines so if I replace a HDD it automatically gets a new image
once I turn the machine on after HDD replacement (ZCC , Configuration,
Preboot services - Hardware Rules) and other rules covering other
requirements.

The PXE menu is also great to configure - I have my Memory and HDD testers
running off of it so I don't need to do anything except go to the machine
and press CTRL-ALT just after PXE server contact and run them off the menu
(if you want some details on that I can post to the list)

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Sunnybank State High School
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7

We haven't deployed ZCM imaging yet (long story), but I would think that PXE
as a first boot would be the ideal.  In ZCM (as I understand it), you can
tell a workstation to re-image at next boot.  PC boots from PXE, checks for
work to do, and reimages.  No contact personal visit required.

Am I on track with this thinking?

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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 10:36 PM >>>
Hi John

Thank for the reply.  I think I understand the concept of the image-safe
data, and from my reading so far it certainly exists in ZCM.
My current problem is how do you assign workstation name to machines that
did not have OS installed before. 

The additional problem I have is that I have to make a decision weather to
buy maintenance on about 750 Ghost clients and buy another 150 full licenses
or move to ZCM in the next 2 days.  We are in this crazy situation that we
will have close to 880 machines for 650 students plus staff next year.

It would seem to me that I have not allowed enough time for this. 

At this stage it seems to me that the only way to start imaging session is
to start it on server and then reboot the workstations and have then set to
boot from the PXE server first- which is a bit of pain to have the machine
set up like that for normal operations.

Cheers

Paul 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 7:25 PM, "John Neumann"
<jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that
its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a
need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if
one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept
of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that
runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the
image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities
to the the loaded operating system instance. 

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging
over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir.
The
problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change,
Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the
golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the
post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell
tools instead.

John

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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,

:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m
assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.  

I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to
achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging
bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash
script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.

 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did
it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a
black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out
much.

Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as
I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation
name conversion

#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv

# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)

# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2) zisedit
ComputerName=$NEWNAME

 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging
bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working
:)

Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name
at the end.

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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows
7

Hi Jamie

Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed
couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed
to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to
multicast an image, so that is all good.

I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way
Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.

 
Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 

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Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-

corporation

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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.

>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F

=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview

Thanks,

John

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CLARKE Jamie | 24 Nov 2010 00:06
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

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To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





Michael Mollard
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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Hi John</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="537340223-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - 
yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been 
registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of 
the disk.</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
John Neumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM<br>To: 
novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] 
Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
</div>
<div></div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used 
for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I 
can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into 
the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured 
machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so 
far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks 
Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and 
restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) 
identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this 
was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having 
computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did 
it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe 
-unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the 
registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away 
when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas 
College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: 
jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; CLARKE Jamie 
11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; 
list,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont 
really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign 
a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did my ZEN 
course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging 
scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after 
the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a script with MAC to Wks 
name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something 
similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done 
by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I 
went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were 
given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example 
which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the 
server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get 
names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv 
linuxnames.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac 
address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig 
eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name from the 
file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat 
linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit 
ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an imaging 
script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but 
maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
<div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is 
simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 
'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - 
Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
</div>
<div></div>
<div>Hi Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have 
installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have 
managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to 
multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way 
Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie 
&lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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      <div>You must 
      of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to 
      post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some 
      of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell 
      Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 
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      novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] 
      On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 
      AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: 
      [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only 
      Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some 
      discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael 
      Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay 
      College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a><br>Ph: 
      (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801<br>Fax: 07 3390 
      8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 
      23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has 
      been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link 
      either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, 
      potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive 
      given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop 
      some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the 
      year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 
      AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If 
      you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as 
      well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 
      23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus 
      qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got 
      some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
      On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John 
      Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi 
      guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as 
      per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am 
      AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, 
      though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery 
      partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me 
      links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on 
      here have the link to<br>the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John 
      Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM
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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>Hi Guys</div>
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<div>Well thank you all for you contributions.&nbsp;I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself.&nbsp;I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear.&nbsp;I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.&nbsp; I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.&nbsp; Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters.&nbsp;I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed".&nbsp;I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year.&nbsp;Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
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<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Hi John</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="537340223-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
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<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
<div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
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<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? 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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

HI Paul,
 
My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:
 
        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)
 
Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.
 
Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).
 
Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 
 
 
 
 
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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Paul,</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">My 
plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, 
then either:</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the 
new image bundle assigned (preferred)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">or&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2) 
Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually 
dump image&nbsp;using the&nbsp;menus&nbsp;(rarely)</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu 
that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send 
examples if you require.</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I 
then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only)&nbsp;to add the workstation &nbsp;to 
AD, name it&nbsp;etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent 
(at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the 
agent in the image but I dont like doing that)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">After this I can then 
manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually 
(sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID&nbsp;is important 
as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in 
ZCC)&nbsp;</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
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<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
Paul Bart<br>Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM<br>To: 
'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - 
Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>
<div>Hi Guys</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Well thank you all for you contributions.&nbsp;I am sure it has helped to 
shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself.&nbsp;I am nearly 
there, just one last bit remains unclear.&nbsp;I have a new workstation with a 
formatted HD.&nbsp; I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the 
Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.&nbsp; Zisedit allows me to 
enter the various parameters.&nbsp;I can then discover the workstation, but I 
cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed".&nbsp;I know, Jamie 
said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided 
to stay with Ghost for at least another year.&nbsp;Whilst I am sure we are just 
about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of 
another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a 
number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know 
well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie 
&lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Hi John</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="537340223-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Thats correct only for new machines or HDD 
      replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and 
      have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is 
      stored in the ISD aread of the disk.</span></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
      OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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      From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
      [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
      John Neumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 
      PM<br>To: 
      novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: 
      [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 
      7<br><br>
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      <div></div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is 
      used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being 
      imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get 
      the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they 
      are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from 
      my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD 
      still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a 
      just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of 
      NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating 
      system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found 
      coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities 
      existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost 
      involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", 
      "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the 
      registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely 
      away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network 
      Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 
      0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 
      CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; 
      list,</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE 
      I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you 
      want to assign a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did 
      my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via 
      the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would 
      be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a 
      script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have 
      something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for 
      us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a 
      black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out 
      much.</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we 
      were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the 
      names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name 
      conversion</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from 
      the server tftp server</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get 
      names.csv</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n 
      names.csv linuxnames.csv</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac 
      address</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk 
      '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name 
      from the file</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat 
      linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
      <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit 
      ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an 
      imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the 
      above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
      <div>
<span class="240041405-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see 
      zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
      <p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), 
      OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This 
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      From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au 
      [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of 
      Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 
      PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] 
      Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
</div>
      <div></div>
      <div>Hi Jamie</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have 
      installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I 
      have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also 
      managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a 
      way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Cheers</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>Paul</div>
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie 
      &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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            <div>You 
            must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul 
            feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have 
            dramas,<br>I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 
            <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT 
            &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 
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            contamination.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: 
            novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] 
            On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 
            9:03 AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: 
            Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only 
            Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some 
            discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael 
            Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay 
            College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a><br>Ph: 
            (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801<br>Fax: 07 3390 
            8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" 
            &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:00 AM 
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening 
            of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given 
            that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN 
            imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will 
            have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some 
            strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the 
            year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 
            8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; 
            wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be 
            interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" 
            &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM 
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus 
            qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I 
            got some from him 
            earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 
            23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John 
            Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi 
            guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online 
            event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was 
            held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an 
            archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at 
            Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally 
            incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' 
            online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to<br>the 
            archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John 
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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

HI Jamie
 
Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.  I have assigned the imaging bundle, just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.  However when the machine starts from the PXE it checks for work and then exits. 
 
Obviously I am missing something.  I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.
 
I would appreciate the submenu examples too.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
HI Paul,
 
My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:
 
        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)
 
Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.
 
Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).
 
Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 
 
 
 
 
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>HI Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.&nbsp; I have assigned the imaging bundle, just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.&nbsp; However when the machine starts from the PXE it checks for work and then exits.&nbsp; </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Obviously I am missing something.&nbsp; I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I would appreciate the submenu examples too.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">HI Paul,</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">or&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image&nbsp;using the&nbsp;menus&nbsp;(rarely)</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only)&nbsp;to add the workstation &nbsp;to AD, name it&nbsp;etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID&nbsp;is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC)&nbsp;</span></div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
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<span class="990134323-24112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
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<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>
<div>Hi Guys</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Well thank you all for you contributions.&nbsp;I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself.&nbsp;I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear.&nbsp;I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.&nbsp; I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.&nbsp; Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters.&nbsp;I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed".&nbsp;I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year.&nbsp;Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Paul</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Hi John</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left">
<span class="537340223-23112010"></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.</span></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Hi Paul &amp; list,</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">:)&nbsp; Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image.&nbsp; </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).&nbsp; eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was.&nbsp;</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">#!/bin/bash</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get a list from the server tftp server</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Get the mac address</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010"># Find the name from the file</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME</span></div>
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<div><span class="240041405-23112010">You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)</span></div>
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<div><span class="240041405-23112010">Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.</span></div>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
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<div>I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.&nbsp; I.e. to change the computer name etc.</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named<br>above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright.<br>If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the<br>permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must<br>not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in<br>reliance on this message. 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If you have received this<br>message in error please notify the sender and delete from any<br>computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this<br>message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of<br>the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst<br>all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims<br>all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this<br>message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a><br>Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801<br>Fax: 07 3390 8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to<br>the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane<br>Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is<br>free<br>from computer viruses or other defects. 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Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

HI Paul,
 
I sometimes find waiting about a minute or two after setting HW rules and then trying PXE is best (just incase you tried it a few secs after setting the rule), however also check that the rule is enabled, - check box down the bottom of rule edit page plus should have enabled listed next to your rule in the Preboot services page, and that "starts with" is the condition before the digit values of the MAC address.  In this trouble shooting process make sure that it is the only rule filter eg not more then one joined with 'or' 'and'.  I noticed a few days ago I created a new "starts with" MAC rule and found using 6 digits to be a sweet spot with ZCM, not sure why but you may also want to try doing this instead of 2 or another amount - i guess just trial and error.
 
Paul if you still have trouble you might want to ditch the starts with rule and put in the 'is equal to' and the full MAC address of the machine (for testing) to see if something strange is going on and that the rules are being referenced to begin with.
 
I have attached my pxmenu.txt file along with the config file of one of the submenu options listing an image.  You need a cfg file for each menu option - this can be explained better by looking at th pxmenu.txt and in SUBMENU2 you will see the last option is for a vanilla image of a 945GTP based machine which references a 945gtp.cfg (also attached)....in this file you will see the img -rp 945gtpwinxpsp3.zmg command which is basically requesting the zmg image file from the imaging proxy....just change these to suit your needs and naming of your *.zmg files.
 
:) hope this helps...
 
 
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 1:21 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

HI Jamie
 
Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.  I have assigned the imaging bundle, just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.  However when the machine starts from the PXE it checks for work and then exits. 
 
Obviously I am missing something.  I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.
 
I would appreciate the submenu examples too.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
HI Paul,
 
My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:
 
        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)
 
Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.
 
Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).
 
Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 
 
 
 
 
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





Michael Mollard
Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au
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Fax: 07 3390 8919


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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        pxelinux.0 ; memtest.cfg
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Paul Bart | 25 Nov 2010 05:59
Picon

Re: Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Thanks Jamie


I have tried all what you mentioned below to no avail.  This is the HW rule


the image bundle exists, is enabled and points to a valid image file, I have incremented its number, but
nothing seems to help.


If anything is obvious, please let me know.  Also, thanks for the info on menus

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 1:48 PM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

HI Paul,

I sometimes find waiting about a minute or two after setting HW rules and then trying PXE is best (just incase
you tried it a few secs after setting the rule), however also check that the rule is enabled, - check box down
the bottom of rule edit page plus should have enabled listed next to your rule in the Preboot services page,
and that "starts with" is the condition before the digit values of the MAC address.  In this trouble
shooting process make sure that it is the only rule filter eg not more then one joined with 'or' 'and'.  I
noticed a few days ago I created a new "starts with" MAC rule and found using 6 digits to be a sweet spot with
ZCM, not sure why but you may also want to try doing this instead of 2 or another amount - i guess just trial and error.

Paul if you still have trouble you might want to ditch the starts with rule and put in the 'is equal to' and the
full MAC address of the machine (for testing) to see if something strange is going on and that the rules are
being referenced to begin with.

I have attached my pxmenu.txt file along with the config file of one of the submenu options listing an image. 
You need a cfg file for each menu option - this can be explained better by looking at th pxmenu.txt and in
SUBMENU2 you will see the last option is for a vanilla image of a 945GTP based machine which references a
945gtp.cfg (also attached)....in this file you will see the img -rp 945gtpwinxpsp3.zmg command which is
basically requesting the zmg image file from the imaging proxy....just change these to suit your needs
and naming of your *.zmg files.

:) hope this helps...



Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au


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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 1:21 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


HI Jamie

Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.  I have assigned the imaging bundle,
just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.  However when the machine starts
from the PXE it checks for work and then exits.  

Obviously I am missing something.  I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.

I would appreciate the submenu examples too.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

HI Paul,

My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:

        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)

Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump
(I also do this) - can send examples if you require.

Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add
the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the
workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).

Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it -
the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 





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Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au


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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hi Guys

Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those
features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a
formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to
tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation,
but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen
automatically, but at this stage I could not find.

On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another
year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7,
deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of
services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.

Cheers

Paul





>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

Hi John

Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being
re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of
the disk.

Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100
http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au


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Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM
To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after
being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management
DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still
exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the
image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating
system instance. 

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer
identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change,
Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image
identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when
using all the Novell tools instead.

John




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Aquinas College, Southport
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m: 0403 871 053
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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>

Hi Paul & list,

:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a
workstation name after re-image.  

I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts
setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash
script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I
must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.

Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example
which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion

#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv

# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)

# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME


You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the
above but maybe you could get it working :)

Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.
Jamie Clarke
Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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Hi Jamie

Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy
bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed
to multicast an image, so that is all good.

I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the
computer name etc.


Cheers

Paul


>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-

corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F

=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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Thanks Jamie


I have tried all what you mentioned below to no avail.  This is the HW rule


the image bundle exists, is enabled and points to a valid image file, I have incremented its number, but
nothing seems to help.


If anything is obvious, please let me know.  Also, thanks for the info on menus

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 1:48 PM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

HI Paul,

I sometimes find waiting about a minute or two after setting HW rules and then trying PXE is best (just incase
you tried it a few secs after setting the rule), however also check that the rule is enabled, - check box down
the bottom of rule edit page plus should have enabled listed next to your rule in the Preboot services page,
and that "starts with" is the condition before the digit values of the MAC address.  In this trouble
shooting process make sure that it is the only rule filter eg not more then one joined with 'or' 'and'.  I
noticed a few days ago I created a new "starts with" MAC rule and found using 6 digits to be a sweet spot with
ZCM, not sure why but you may also want to try doing this instead of 2 or another amount - i guess just trial and error.

Paul if you still have trouble you might want to ditch the starts with rule and put in the 'is equal to' and the
full MAC address of the machine (for testing) to see if something strange is going on and that the rules are
being referenced to begin with.

I have attached my pxmenu.txt file along with the config file of one of the submenu options listing an image. 
You need a cfg file for each menu option - this can be explained better by looking at th pxmenu.txt and in
SUBMENU2 you will see the last option is for a vanilla image of a 945GTP based machine which references a
945gtp.cfg (also attached)....in this file you will see the img -rp 945gtpwinxpsp3.zmg command which is
basically requesting the zmg image file from the imaging proxy....just change these to suit your needs
and naming of your *.zmg files.

:) hope this helps...



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Sunnybank State High School
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


HI Jamie

Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.  I have assigned the imaging bundle,
just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.  However when the machine starts
from the PXE it checks for work and then exits.  

Obviously I am missing something.  I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.

I would appreciate the submenu examples too.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

HI Paul,

My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:

        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)

Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump
(I also do this) - can send examples if you require.

Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add
the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the
workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).

Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it -
the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 





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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hi Guys

Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those
features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a
formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to
tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation,
but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen
automatically, but at this stage I could not find.

On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another
year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7,
deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of
services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.

Cheers

Paul





>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

Hi John

Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being
re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of
the disk.

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Sunnybank State High School
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after
being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management
DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still
exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the
image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating
system instance. 

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer
identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change,
Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image
identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when
using all the Novell tools instead.

John




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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>

Hi Paul & list,

:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a
workstation name after re-image.  

I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts
setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash
script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I
must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.

Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example
which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion

#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv

# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)

# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME


You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the
above but maybe you could get it working :)

Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.
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Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT & HPE), OC
Sunnybank State High School
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[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7


Hi Jamie

Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy
bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed
to multicast an image, so that is all good.

I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the
computer name etc.


Cheers

Paul


>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:

You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. 


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Sunnybank State High School
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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-

corporation





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Network Administrator
Moreton Bay College
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Fax: 07 3390 8919


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F

=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



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John




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When this kind of thing happened on Zfd I found it helped to clear all the machine identity of the image-safe data. Use zisedit from the bash prompt.
 
Once blanked out, it has a better chance of reading work without knowing its' identity.
 
John

 
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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 25/11/2010 2:59 PM >>>
Thanks Jamie
 
 
I have tried all what you mentioned below to no avail.  This is the HW rule
 
 
the image bundle exists, is enabled and points to a valid image file, I have incremented its number, but nothing seems to help.
 
 
If anything is obvious, please let me know.  Also, thanks for the info on menus
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 1:48 PM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
HI Paul,
 
I sometimes find waiting about a minute or two after setting HW rules and then trying PXE is best (just incase you tried it a few secs after setting the rule), however also check that the rule is enabled, - check box down the bottom of rule edit page plus should have enabled listed next to your rule in the Preboot services page, and that "starts with" is the condition before the digit values of the MAC address.  In this trouble shooting process make sure that it is the only rule filter eg not more then one joined with 'or' 'and'.  I noticed a few days ago I created a new "starts with" MAC rule and found using 6 digits to be a sweet spot with ZCM, not sure why but you may also want to try doing this instead of 2 or another amount - i guess just trial and error.
 
Paul if you still have trouble you might want to ditch the starts with rule and put in the 'is equal to' and the full MAC address of the machine (for testing) to see if something strange is going on and that the rules are being referenced to begin with.
 
I have attached my pxmenu.txt file along with the config file of one of the submenu options listing an image.  You need a cfg file for each menu option - this can be explained better by looking at th pxmenu.txt and in SUBMENU2 you will see the last option is for a vanilla image of a 945GTP based machine which references a 945gtp.cfg (also attached)....in this file you will see the img -rp 945gtpwinxpsp3.zmg command which is basically requesting the zmg image file from the imaging proxy....just change these to suit your needs and naming of your *.zmg files.
 
:) hope this helps...
 
 
 

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
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To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

HI Jamie
 
Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.  I have assigned the imaging bundle, just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.  However when the machine starts from the PXE it checks for work and then exits. 
 
Obviously I am missing something.  I have checked all the assignments of bundles etc, and seem ok.
 
I would appreciate the submenu examples too.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul

>>> On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
HI Paul,
 
My plan of action with a new workstation is to obviously make the image for them, then either:
 
        1) Make a MAC HW Rule (usually with the first 6 digits)with the new image bundle assigned (preferred)
or    2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image using the menus (rarely)
 
Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.
 
Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only) to add the workstation  to AD, name it etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)
After this I can then manage the device (remote control, imaging etc all from ZCC).
 
Personally I dont like doing much with the ZISD manually (sometimes the GUID gets out of wack and I clear it - the GUID is important as this is how ZCM id`s the computer for imaging as outlined in ZCC) 
 
 
 
 
 

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Guys
 
Well thank you all for you contributions. I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself. I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear. I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.  I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.  Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters. I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed". I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.
 
On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year. Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 
 
 


>>> On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
Hi John
 
Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.
 

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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann
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Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hey Jamie,

Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??

I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance.

BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.

John



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>>> CLARKE Jamie 11/23/10 3:33 PM >>>
Hi Paul & list,
 
:)  Since MOE I dont really have to worry too much about that issue, I`m assuming you want to assign a workstation name after re-image. 
 
I know when I did my ZEN course there were a few BCC people and they use to achieve this via the imaging scripts setup (action set in the imaging bundle)and it would be done just after the imaging completed (its a bash script).  eg a script with MAC to Wks name I think it was. 
 We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).  However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.
 
Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion
 
#!/bin/bash
# Get a list from the server tftp server
tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv
dos2unix -n names.csv linuxnames.csv
 
# Get the mac address
MACADDRESS=$(ifconfig eth0 | grep HWaddr | awk '{print $5}' | tr -d :)
 
# Find the name from the file
NEWNAME=$(cat linuxnames.csv | grep -i $MACADDRESS | cut -d"," -f2)
zisedit ComputerName=$NEWNAME
 
 
You would simply add that as an imaging script action in your imaging bundle....sorry but havent used the above but maybe you could get it working :)
 
Hope I have helped....you can see zisedit is simply used to assign the name at the end.

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Sunnybank State High School
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM
To: 'Novell Schools'
Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7

Hi Jamie
 
Thank you for the kind offer, I will. I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.
 
I am not able to find out where you would apply configurations in a way Ghost does it.  I.e. to change the computer name etc.
 
 
Cheers
 
Paul
 

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie <jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au> wrote:
You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.

Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,
I know some of us on the list run ZCM10.


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7

Here's something that should start some discussion:

http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-
corporation





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>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 9:00 AM >>>
Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(

And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with
migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting
rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next
year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start
of the year.

Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"
<MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au> wrote:

If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.


>>> "Paul Bart" <paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au> 23/11/2010 8:49 AM >>>
Hi John

If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am
sure.  I got some from him earlier.


Cheers

Paul

>>> On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"
<JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au> wrote:

Hi guys,

Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject
of this message.

As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have
promised an archived version, though.

My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this
appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other
organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to
the archived version of this event?

https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&F
=1002620&K=reminder&tab=overview



Thanks,

John




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<div>
<br><div>When this kind of thing happened on Zfd I found it helped to clear all the machine identity of the image-safe data. Use zisedit from the bash prompt.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Once blanked out, it has a better chance of reading work without knowing its' identity.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>John<br><br>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>John Neumann</div>
<div>Network Administrator</div>
<div>Aquinas College, Ashmore</div>
<div>p: (07) 5510 2888 </div>
<div>m: 0403 871 053</div>
<div>e: <a href="mailto:jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au">jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</a>
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<div>&nbsp;</div>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 25/11/2010 2:59 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
</div>
<div>Thanks Jamie</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I have tried all what you mentioned below to no avail.&nbsp; This is the HW rule</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>the image bundle exists, is enabled and points to a valid image file, I have incremented its number, but nothing seems to help.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>If anything is obvious, please let me know.&nbsp; Also, thanks for the info on menus</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Cheers</div>
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<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 25/11/2010 at 1:48 PM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="127302803-25112010">HI Paul,</span></div>
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<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 1:21 PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Thanks again for the info. I have created the hardware rule, that was OK.&nbsp; I have assigned the imaging bundle, just to be sure I have only used the first 2 characters of the MAC address.&nbsp; However when the machine starts from the PXE it checks for work and then exits.&nbsp; </div>
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<div>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 25/11/2010 at 9:59 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">or&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2) Load up PXE menu - Imaging Maintenance then 'img' at bash prompt and manually dump image&nbsp;using the&nbsp;menus&nbsp;(rarely)</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Other option is to edit the pxe menu and add another submenu that you can list the images that you want to dump (I also do this) - can send examples if you require.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="990134323-24112010">Once the new machines have the image dumped on them as above I then use the MOE joiner (EQ schools only)&nbsp;to add the workstation &nbsp;to AD, name it&nbsp;etc and part of that process is then to install the Zen agent (at this stage the workstation is then visible in ZCC - I know you can have the agent in the image but I dont like doing that)</span></div>
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<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2010 8:21 AM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Well thank you all for you contributions.&nbsp;I am sure it has helped to shorten the time to "discover" all those features myself.&nbsp;I am nearly there, just one last bit remains unclear.&nbsp;I have a new workstation with a formatted HD.&nbsp; I boot to PXE, Ctrl Alt delete gets to the menu, I use the Imaging Maintenance option to get to tha bash prompt.&nbsp; Zisedit allows me to enter the various parameters.&nbsp;I can then discover the workstation, but I cannot assign it an imaging task, as it was not "deployed".&nbsp;I know, Jamie said that can happen automatically, but at this stage I could not find.</div>
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<div>On a separate note, I had a meeting with my tech guys and we have decided to stay with Ghost for at least another year.&nbsp;Whilst I am sure we are just about there, in terms of imaging we felt that with the move to W7, deployment of another year level of laptops, taking the numbers to 906 next years, moving a number of services to Windows servers, we better keep something to what we know well.</div>
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<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 24/11/2010 at 9:06 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="537340223-23112010">Thats correct only for new machines or HDD replacements - yes the ZISD works for those machines being re-imaged and have already been registered into the ZCM Zone eg. their name etc is stored in the ISD aread of the disk.</span></div>
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<p>Jamie Clarke<br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au/">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright. If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed because you have received this message in error. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender and delete from any computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br></p>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of John Neumann<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 7:25 PM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div></div>Hey Jamie,<br><br>Can you please clarify why the bash script is used for rename? You say that its for a workstation rename after being imaged, I can't see why there is a need for this? Maybe if it was to get the identity into the management DB if one did not already exist, ie they are all newly procured machines??<br><br>I have not used ZCM yet, but from my reading of the doco so far, the concept of image-safe data on the HDD still exists. The ZENWorks Imaging Agent that runs with Windows detects a just imaged flag set, and restores the image-safe data consisting of NetBIOS name and eDir (or ZCM's db) identities to the the loaded operating system instance. <br><br>BTW, Paul, this was a huge advantage I found coming here with ZfD Imaging over Ghost when having computer identities existing in eDir. The problems we used to face when we did it with Ghost involving SID change, Ghost Client machine rename, "zwsreg.exe -unreg", "zwsreg.exe" to get the golden master's image identity out of the registry, and then to get the post-image identity back in goes completely away when using all the Novell tools instead.<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><div>--<br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Southport<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au</div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">&nbsp;We have something similar here but is achieved via a xml script (EQ MOE did it for us - not done by me).&nbsp; However I must admint imaging scripts are a black art and when I went searching about a year ago I couldnt find out much.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">Heres an example we were given in the course although I`m kicking myself as I lost the names.csv example which I believe was just the MAC to Workstation name conversion</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="240041405-23112010">tftp $TFTPIP -c get names.csv</span></div>
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From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au [mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of Paul Bart<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 2:52 PM<br>To: 'Novell Schools'<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows 7<br><br>
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<div>Thank you for the kind offer, I will.&nbsp;I have ZEN 10SP3, I have installed couple of weeks ago. I can deploy bundles, got PXE going and I have managed to take an image of both XP and W7 workstation. I have also managed to multicast an image, so that is all good.</div>
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<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 9:20 AM, CLARKE Jamie &lt;jclar30 <at> eq.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>You must of missed my post ;) Michael beat you to it LOL.<br><br>Paul feel free to post your ZEN10 questions to the list if you have dramas,<br>I know some of us on the list run ZCM10. <br><br><br>Jamie Clarke <br>Certified Novell Engineer 6, B.Ed(IT &amp; HPE), OC<br>Sunnybank State High School<br>Ph 3323 8127 Fax 3323 8100<br><a href="http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au">http://www.sunnybanhshs.eq.edu.au</a><br><br>This message (including attachments) is intended for the addressee named<br>above. It may also be confidential, privileged and/or subject to copyright.<br>If you wish to forward this message to others, you must first obtain the<br>permission of the author.If you are not the addressee named above, you must<br>not disseminate, copy, communicate or otherwise use or take any action in<br>reliance on this message. You understand that any privilege or<br>confidentiality attached to this message is not waived, lost or destroyed<br>because you have received this message in error. If you have received this<br>message in error please notify the sender and delete from any<br>computer.Unless explicitly attributed, the opinions expressed in this<br>message do not necessarily represent the official position or opinions of<br>the State of Queensland or the Department of Education and the Arts.Whilst<br>all care has been taken, the Department of Education and the Arts disclaims<br>all liability for loss or damage to person or property arising from this<br>message being infected by computer virus or other contamination.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>[mailto:novellschools-bounces <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au] On Behalf Of<br>Michael Mollard<br>Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 9:03 AM<br>To: novellschools <at> lists.redlands.qld.edu.au<br>Subject: Re: [NovellSchools] Online Virtual Event - Relax: It's only Windows<br>7<br><br>Here's something that should start some discussion:<br><br><a href="http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-">http://www.novell.com/news/press/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-</a><br>corporation<br><br><br><br><br><br>Michael Mollard<br>Network Administrator<br>Moreton Bay College<br>mollardm <at> mbc.qld.edu.au<br><a href="http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au">http://www.mbc.qld.edu.au</a><br>Ph: (Direct) 07 3907 5712 / (Mob) 0417 631 801<br>Fax: 07 3390 8919<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 9:00 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Wow 5 posts in a day, the silence has been deafening of late :(<br><br>And yes, I would not mind that link either. Given that I am struggling with<br>migration to ZEN 10, potentially ZEN imaging (ghost currently is getting<br>rather expensive given I will have close to 900 devices next<br>year) and trying to develop some strategy for a full W7 rollout at the start<br>of the year.<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:51 AM, "Michael Mollard"<br>&lt;MollardM <at> mbc.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>If you get a decent link, could you share it? I'd be interested as well.<br><br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; "Paul Bart" &lt;paulb <at> stmarys.qld.edu.au&gt; 23/11/2010 8:49 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>Hi John<br><br>If you e-mail Que Mangus qmangus <at> grouplink.net he will give you a link I am<br>sure.&nbsp; I got some from him earlier.<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; On 23/11/2010 at 8:16 AM, "John Neumann"<br>&lt;JNeumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi guys,<br><br>Novell recently had a really decent looking online event as per the subject<br>of this message.<br><br>As usual it was held at 3am AEST and therefore I missed it. They have<br>promised an archived version, though.<br><br>My problem is that the support at Novell's web delivery partner for this<br>appear to be totally incompetent and keep giving me links to other<br>organisations' online events instead. Does anyone on here have the link to<br>the archived version of this event?<br><br><a href="https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F">https://www.techwebonlineevents.com/ars/eventregistration.do?mode=eventreg&amp;F</a><br>=1002620&amp;K=reminder&amp;tab=overview<br><br><br><br>Thanks,<br><br>John<br><br><br><br><br>John Neumann<br>Network Administrator<br>Aquinas College, Ashmore<br>p: (07) 5510 2888<br>m: 0403 871 053<br>e: jneumann <at> aquinas.qld.edu.au <br><br><br>-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by<br>the BCEC Security Gateway, and is believed to be clean. Brisbane<br>Catholic Education however gives no warranties that this e-mail is<br>free<br>from computer viruses or other defects. 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