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Tom Sparks | 15 Aug 04:08

handheld theora video camera wish list

What would your wish list be for a handheld theora
video camera?

640x480 25fps/30fps
320x240 25fps/30fps

Record to a memory card (SD)
Lan / WIFI support (auto/manual upload of file on
memory card)
Live streaming (icecast like)
Videoconferencing support
Voip (sip) speex audio

I am bouncing the idea around of developing a handheld
video camera
designed for mobile video streaming

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John Kintree | 15 Aug 16:17

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list

On Thursday 14 August 2008 09:11 pm, Tom Sparks wrote:
> What would your wish list be for a handheld theora
> video camera?

First, I like the idea, and the features you listed below.  

Second, there has been talk that shortly after the release of 
theora 1.0, there will be a theora 1.1 that will not be backwards 
compatible.  Knowing that breaking compatibility is not to be 
done lightly, I trust that Monty is confident that the 
improvements in the quality of the codec that will come with 
version 1.1 will be worth that break.  Anyway, anyone planning 
on developing hardware should take this into consideration.
John Kintree

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> 640x480 25fps/30fps
> 320x240 25fps/30fps
>
> Record to a memory card (SD)
> Lan / WIFI support (auto/manual upload of file on
> memory card)
> Live streaming (icecast like)
> Videoconferencing support
> Voip (sip) speex audio
>
> I am bouncing the idea around of developing a handheld
> video camera
> designed for mobile video streaming
>

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Tom Sparks | 18 Aug 05:48

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list


On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 10:26 -0700, Jason Self wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Tom Sparks
<tom_a_sparks <at> yahoo.com.au>  
> wrote:
> 
> > What would your wish list be for a handheld theora
> > video camera?
> >
> > 640x480 25fps/30fps
> > 320x240 25fps/30fps
> 
> HD resolutions would be nice.
I did not think of HD resolution
but what HD resolution would you use?

> 
> 
> > Record to a memory card (SD)
> 
> A hard drive would be nice.
the camera is not made to compete with hard drive/DV
tape based cameras
the camera is made to be in the arena with MP4 memory
card based
cameras  
> 
> > Lan / WIFI support (auto/manual upload of file
onmemory card)
>

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Tom Sparks | 18 Aug 05:48

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list

I am NOT looking at selling the cameras
the camera well be put under an open hardware license
when we have some working version for our community

On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 16:05 -0400,
saulgoode <at> flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote:
> If I could ask a couple of questions first, what is
the expected  
> target price for the unit? Will it be using CMOS or
CCD sensor  
> technology?
> 
> My main interest is that the amateur stop-motion
animation community  
> currently has very few options available for cameras
suitable for  
> their needs. While they don't need a movie camera
per se (they build  
> up movies from individual snapshots), if you are
designing a camera  
> (even a movie camera) you might take into account
some of the  
> necessary features at little or no additional cost
and thereby attract  
> more customers.
> 
> You probably wouldn't attract oodles of customers
(which is one of the  
> reasons animators have basically been ignored by the
larger camera

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Tom Sparks | 19 Aug 07:45

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list

I can easily see 720p HD for recording on to a memory
card
but not for live streaming

On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 22:06 -0700, Jason Self wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2008, at 8:49 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 10:26 -0700, Jason Self
wrote:
> >> On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Tom Sparks
> > <tom_a_sparks <at> yahoo.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What would your wish list be for a handheld
theora
> >>> video camera?
> >>>
> >>> 640x480 25fps/30fps
> >>> 320x240 25fps/30fps
> >>
> >> HD resolutions would be nice.
> > I did not think of HD resolution
> 
> 1280 x 720 ("720p"), although I have no issues with
larger resolutions.
> 

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Eric Dantan Rzewnicki | 22 Aug 10:30

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:11:35PM +1000, Tom Sparks wrote:
> What would your wish list be for a handheld theora
> video camera?
> 
> 640x480 25fps/30fps
> 320x240 25fps/30fps
> 
> Record to a memory card (SD)
> Lan / WIFI support (auto/manual upload of file on
> memory card)
> Live streaming (icecast like)
> Videoconferencing support
> Voip (sip) speex audio
> 
> I am bouncing the idea around of developing a handheld
> video camera
> designed for mobile video streaming

It would be great if it could output dv via ethernet for use with
dvswitch: http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dvswitch/

Makes it not a theora camera, though.

Actually, something like what you describe already exists. There were
several units made be some russian company (i think) at the KHM. We
played with them a bit during LAC2008.

-Eric Rz.

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Tom Sparks | 22 Aug 12:25

Re: handheld theora video camera wish list

I know about the elphel's IP cameras
(http://www3.elphel.com/index.php)

the camera need to within the mp4 video camera arena
but must cross over to the network-able/IP cameras

the uploading features are something like eye-Fi SD
card
http://www.eye.fi/overview/

this is the main objective behind the cameras
<http://www.webtvwire.com/mobile-video-streaming-tools-how-to-build-a-portable-video-streaming-kit/>
to create a handheld video streaming setup for a
Community/Citizen media

On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 03:30 -0500, Eric Dantan
Rzewnicki wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 12:11:35PM +1000, Tom Sparks
wrote:
> > What would your wish list be for a handheld theora
> > video camera?
> > 
> > 640x480 25fps/30fps
> > 320x240 25fps/30fps
> > 
> > Record to a memory card (SD)
> > Lan / WIFI support (auto/manual upload of file on
> > memory card)
> > Live streaming (icecast like)
> > Videoconferencing support

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