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Stas Malyshev | 1 Jul 2012 00:59
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[PHP-DEV] JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

Hi!

I see that there were significant changes committed to JSON extension in
5.3 and 5.4 recently. These changes modify json_encode behavior, break
tests (pass001.1_64bit.phpt does not work anymore for me), are not
clearly documented and have no NEWS/UPGRADING entries describing what
exactly changed, had no RFC, use new function with name inconsistent
with all existing functions with the same semantics
(json_last_error_msg) and IMO do not belong in stable branches,
especially not done this way.

I intend to release 5.4.5 RC1 next week, and I want this matter to be
cleared up before that, because I can not release it in this state. So
we have two options here:
1. Revert everything to 5.4.4 state and deal with it in 5.5 or maybe in
5.4.6 if it'd be ready.
2. Have it cleaned up ASAP and brought to a state where there are no
test failures and there's a clear description of what the changes were
in NEWS and UPGRADING.

I think option 2 is better, but if it can not happen by EOD Tuesday
(July 3) I intend to go with option 1. Nikita, please advise how you
prefer to proceed with this.

Johannes, do you want me to revert it in 5.3 branch too in case we have
to go with option 1?
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Nikita Popov | 1 Jul 2012 01:14
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[PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev <at> sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I see that there were significant changes committed to JSON extension in
> 5.3 and 5.4 recently. These changes modify json_encode behavior, break
> tests (pass001.1_64bit.phpt does not work anymore for me), are not
> clearly documented and have no NEWS/UPGRADING entries describing what
> exactly changed, had no RFC, use new function with name inconsistent
> with all existing functions with the same semantics
> (json_last_error_msg) and IMO do not belong in stable branches,
> especially not done this way.
>
> I intend to release 5.4.5 RC1 next week, and I want this matter to be
> cleared up before that, because I can not release it in this state. So
> we have two options here:
> 1. Revert everything to 5.4.4 state and deal with it in 5.5 or maybe in
> 5.4.6 if it'd be ready.
> 2. Have it cleaned up ASAP and brought to a state where there are no
> test failures and there's a clear description of what the changes were
> in NEWS and UPGRADING.
>
> I think option 2 is better, but if it can not happen by EOD Tuesday
> (July 3) I intend to go with option 1. Nikita, please advise how you
> prefer to proceed with this.
>
> Johannes, do you want me to revert it in 5.3 branch too in case we have
> to go with option 1?
Hi Stas!

If you are okay with the changes in principle, I will fix the
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Johannes Schlüter | 1 Jul 2012 01:27
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[PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

On Sun, 2012-07-01 at 01:14 +0200, Nikita Popov wrote:
> 
> If you are okay with the changes in principle, I will fix the
> remaining issues asap. If you think that the changes are too intrusive
> for release branches, I'll gladly revert them for 5.3/5.4. I didn't
> quite expect that there will be so many changes. 

I think in 5.3 we don't need changes. 5.3 is a stable stable stable
branch. Fixing bugs, ok, changing behavior: No go.

I haven't looked at it in detail, though.

johannes

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Nikita Popov | 1 Jul 2012 01:39
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[PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Johannes Schlüter
<johannes <at> schlueters.de> wrote:
> I think in 5.3 we don't need changes. 5.3 is a stable stable stable
> branch. Fixing bugs, ok, changing behavior: No go.

Agreed.

One question: When I revert the changes to 5.3 should I also revert
the original change that was released in 5.3.14?
(http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=commit;h=3f3ad30c50c32327e723046bcc6649d05dd9236a)

The change was reverted on 5.4, but was missed on 5.3.

It is present only in that one release and is currently not documented
in any way.

Nikita

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Max Benson | 2 Jul 2012 16:41
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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

Johannes Schlüter <johannes <at> schlueters.de> writes:

> I think in 5.3 we don't need changes. 5.3 is a stable stable stable
> branch. Fixing bugs, ok, changing behavior: No go.
> 
> I haven't looked at it in detail, though.
> 
> johannes
> 

Indeed, 5.3 seems very stable. We ran many tests.

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Max Benson
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Stas Malyshev | 1 Jul 2012 01:51
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[PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

Hi!

> If you are okay with the changes in principle, I will fix the
> remaining issues asap. If you think that the changes are too intrusive
> for release branches, I'll gladly revert them for 5.3/5.4. I didn't
> quite expect that there will be so many changes.

I think changes with adding new functions, etc. are too intrusive for
5.3/5.4. If you have any fixes that can be done without it, please
describe them and let's see if they fit stable versions. Otherwise,
let's go back to stable. In any case, the tests should be fixed too.

> Apart from that one test, does anything else fail for you? I didn't
> notice that one test because I'm running on 32bit.

That's the only test that failed for me in 5.4.

> Regarding documentation, should these changes be documented in detail
> in NEWS? Or does it suffice to update the documentation? For
> UPGRADING, which one should it go in? Just 5.3?

It would be best to have short description in UPGRADING and full
description in the docs. NEWS should have short mention of it. But since
we're talking about moving all substantial changes to 5.5, that's where
it should be.

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Nikita Popov | 1 Jul 2012 23:06
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[PHP-DEV] Re: JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev <at> sugarcrm.com> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> If you are okay with the changes in principle, I will fix the
>> remaining issues asap. If you think that the changes are too intrusive
>> for release branches, I'll gladly revert them for 5.3/5.4. I didn't
>> quite expect that there will be so many changes.
>
> I think changes with adding new functions, etc. are too intrusive for
> 5.3/5.4. If you have any fixes that can be done without it, please
> describe them and let's see if they fit stable versions. Otherwise,
> let's go back to stable. In any case, the tests should be fixed too.

I don't think one can do anything on 5.3/5.4 without altering the
behavior too drastically. I reverted all changes I did there:

https://github.com/php/php-src/commit/250393f92523fffe643df06a1de2101fd50a327e
(5.3)
https://github.com/php/php-src/commit/b7903f9778a57fda71867f9661505f635d602067
(5.4)

I did not revert
http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=commit;h=3f3ad30c50c32327e723046bcc6649d05dd9236a
though. Leaving the decision on that one to Johannes :)

Nikita

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Remi Collet | 1 Jul 2012 10:02
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Re: [PHP-DEV] JSON changes in 5.3/5.4

Le 01/07/2012 00:59, Stas Malyshev a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> I see that there were significant changes committed to JSON extension in
> 5.3 and 5.4 recently. 

Another minor documentation problem:

Last pecl version on json extension, released in 2006 was 1.2.1

Version included in 5.3 and 5.4 still reports as 1.2.1.

If extension change (bugfix or new features) shouldn't version change ?

If nobody want to take care of bundled extension version, shouldn't it
be removed ?

Regards,
Remi.

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