Daniel O'Connor (http://pear.php.net/user/doconnor) proposes PEAR::PEAR_Exception. You can find more detailed information here: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
> Suggest someone else do a release of the pear installer with an appropriate explanation of how to fix any upgrade problems (pear upgrade pear && pear install PEAR_Exception) Couldn't this just be done automatically by depending PEAR on PEAR_Exception? -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
I agree with this. :) Thanks for putting up this proposal! -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Very big +1 from me. -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>> Suggest someone else do a release of the pear installer with an appropriate explanation of how to fix any upgrade problems (pear upgrade pear && pear install PEAR_Exception) > Couldn't this just be done automatically by depending PEAR on PEAR_Exception? Well, yeah, but I'd have to never set PEAR_Exception's min php version to 5 unfortunately! I know we've had the discussion a few times around "who uses PHP4 anymore, anyway?" - but no one has made the call. This is just one more piece being chipped away. -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
I think this RFC is a bit misguided. I have had this on my plans for a long time but never found the time - I would love if someone took on this initiative. The package xml for this is already ready: https://github.com/pear/pear-core/blob/master/package-Exception.xml - for the most part. It didn't help that PEAR had deps on PHP 4, so the only viable option was to make PEAR_Exception depend on PHP 4 as well. That way PEAR could depend on PEAR_Exception and not the other way around, thus on the new PEAR update people would get PEAR_Exception. If we move PEAR it self to have a min dep on PHP 5 (5.1.6 or 5.2 perhaps) then PEAR_Exception can dep on PHP 5 as well and everyone is happy. No confusion. Package authors can them self do releases (or QA) with a new dep on PEAR_Exception instead of PEAR, but it won't be required to do a mass updated on all packages. I want to see this done but not in the confusing manner proposed. -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php(Continue reading)
For myself this is not about a PHP4 dependency, it's about all the packages I have to install when a package depends on "PEAR" just for the exception. So for example, I depend on HTTP_Request2 which uses PEAR_Exception, in return I have the following packages installed along with it: * xml_util (1.2.1) * structures_graph (1.0.4) * pear_frontend_web (0.4) * pear_frontend_gtk (0.4.0) * pear (1.9.4) * console_getopt (1.3.1) * archive_tar (1.3.10) Strictly speaking, they are not required for HTTP_Request2, but they are installed because of the PEAR dependency. -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php(Continue reading)
ab675ef..ae590f3 should be the last few commits to bring back that package-Exception.xml as package.xml, and make it valid (todo: kill package-Exception.xml from the pear-core repo) -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Can we vote? -- http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Daniel O'Connor (http://pear.php.net/user/doconnor) has initiated the call for votes on PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Please review the proposal and give your vote here: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Markus Tacker (http://pear.php.net/user/tacker) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=tacker -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Bertrand Mansion (http://pear.php.net/user/mansion) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=mansion -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Christian Weiske (http://pear.php.net/user/cweiske) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=cweiske This vote is conditional. The condition is: Change the signature to the one of the PHP Exception base class: >string $message = "" [, int $code = 0 [, Exception $previous = NULL ]]] Currently, it's PEAR_Exception($message, Exception $prev, $code) which is diametral to the order in Exception. Also, " <at> version CVS: $Id$" isn't really up to date. -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Greg Sherwood (http://pear.php.net/user/squiz) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=squiz -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Till Klampaeckel (http://pear.php.net/user/till) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=till -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Alexey Borzov (http://pear.php.net/user/avb) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=avb This vote is conditional. The condition is: Please do the split in the way that will not require mass package updates and manual mucking around. Maybe start a PEAR 1.10.x major version with dependency on PHP5 and PEAR_Exception, making 1.9.x branch the last PHP4-friendly one with occasional backports of fixes from 1.10.x -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Michael Gauthier (http://pear.php.net/user/gauthierm) has voted +1 on the proposal for PEAR::PEAR_Exception. Proposal information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-proposal-show.php?id=679 Vote information: http://pear.php.net/pepr/pepr-vote-show.php?id=679&handle=gauthierm Comment: If I understand correctly, this is just splitting the existing class into a separate package. This proposal does not address the larger problem of having a single point of class inheritance for exceptions, rather than using interfaces and extending appropriate SPL exception classes. I'm fine with that (this package is solving a separate issue), but think it should be clarified. -- -- PEAR Development Mailing List (http://pear.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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