Erik Lundh | 1 Dec 2008 01:01
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Your chance to influence how agile is defined in an upcoming IEEE-standard

I am going to the finnish Lapland (right where Santa Claues lives) on 
Sunday November 30 for 72 hours of intense discussions about what 
Agile is.
Participants are invited internationally from industry and academia 

However, I feel that the participants could use additional input.
Earlier work on this standard has spent some time on interpretations 
of things like "How much documentation" and even to some degree what 
the manifesto really means.

I feel that we need to define Agile by what it is useful for.
A definition of what good Agile does might last longer than a 
detailed description of current practices in the evolving art of 
Agile.

Who wants a standard for what Agile is? 
Well, people who have to comply with e g safety-critical requirements 
from hard-nosed government bodies will appreciate support from an 
actual rationale for going from waterfall(ish) development to Agile.
And just being convinced that agile helps does not impress on 
auditors. A standard that defines agile in a way that makes sense 
will help these folks tremendously.

Please use the survey to express your view on what Agile is useful 
for and what makes you think that someone is Agile. Email with 
additional comments is of course also welcome.

The short "What makes you agile?" survey is at: 
http://www.polldaddy.com/s/6DF01D606D905EBB/

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Gary Brown | 1 Dec 2008 03:04
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Re: Your chance to influence how agile is defined in an upcoming IEEE-standard

Erik,

I don't mean to shoot the messenger, but please don your kevlar and duck!

How many of the following people are invited?

Kent Beck
Mike Beedle
Arie van Bennekum
Alistair Cockburn
Ward Cunningham
Martin Fowler
James Grenning
Jim Highsmith
Andrew Hunt
Ron Jeffries
Jon Kern
Brian Marick
Robert C. Martin
Steve Mellor
Ken Schwaber
Jeff Sutherland
Dave Thomas

Do you or the folks intending to define Agile in an upcoming IEEE standard 
understand that there is no Agile software development method?  Agile is an 
umbrella concept for the defined software development methods, that adhere 
to the Agile Manifesto and the Agile Principles.

The actual defined Agile software development methods are already well 
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Phlip | 1 Dec 2008 01:46
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Re: Your chance to influence how agile is defined in an upcoming IEEE-standard

Erik Lundh wrote:

> However, I feel that the participants could use additional input.
> Earlier work on this standard has spent some time on interpretations 
> of things like "How much documentation" and even to some degree what 
> the manifesto really means.

Sorry, but I can't help thinking of the "Salon des Refusés", out in back of the 
(official) Paris Salon of 1863.

All the great artists that we remember from that time, such as Édouard Manet and 
James McNeill Whistler, were from the "Salon of Rejects" - _not_ the official 
Paris Salon...

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