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typemock | 2 May 2012 10:58

[ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

How do architects build software in an agile environment? 

Join Raffaele Garofalo, Software Architect, as he discusses the role of software architecture in an Agile environment.
Learn:
	How software architecture & Agile can live together
	Principles of Agile Architecture:
o	Lifecycle & Modeling
o	Modeling & Development
o	Test Driven Development (TDD)

When: Wednesday, May 9
Time: 9:00 AM EDT (Eastern), 14:00 UK/GMT,  18:30 India
Why: To stay up-to-date & build better software
How: Click here to sign up - http://j.mp/Jo9n0o

While this will be a vendor-neutral webinar, we will raffle off Typemock Isolator licenses and other swag
to winning attendees

RonJeffries | 2 May 2012 11:35

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Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and others on the list? 
Thanks,
R
On May 2, 2012, at 4:58 AM, typemock wrote:

> How do architects build software in an agile environment? 

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
I have two cats, and a big house full of cat stuff. The cats fight and divide up the house, messing up their own
lives. Nice work cats. Meow.

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Adrian Howard | 2 May 2012 11:42

Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment


On 2 May 2012, at 10:35, RonJeffries wrote:

> People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and others on the list? 

No. 

Adrian

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M. Manca | 2 May 2012 12:41

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Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

Il 02/05/2012 11:35, RonJeffries ha scritto:
>  
>
> People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and
> others on the list?
>
If they advise about conference, meetings and exhibitions I think may be
acceptable, if they try to sell services not so much.
>
> Thanks,
> R
> On May 2, 2012, at 4:58 AM, typemock wrote:
>
> > How do architects build software in an agile environment?
>
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com
> I have two cats, and a big house full of cat stuff. The cats fight and
> divide up the house, messing up their own lives. Nice work cats. Meow.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

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typemock | 2 May 2012 17:57

Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

I want to personally apologize to the moderators and group members if I offended anyone in the community.
That is, of course, not something I intended but rather to let people know of events that they may be
interested in. 

Typemock hosts educational events to educate the community about the latest trends in Agile, Unit
Testing, Extreme Programming.  Many of these events (including today's webinar and next week's webinar)
are vendor-neutral  Typemock's products are not presented and it is not a sales demo. 

In fact, they are posted on Typemock's webinars after the event at http://www.typemock.com/webinars/
with no registration required.

Certainly, if the members and moderators are not interested in these events, I will not post them here
anymore and you can always here about them on agile-ann and from Typemock.

Respectfully,
Avi Hein
Marketing Manager, Typemock

--- In extremeprogramming <at> yahoogroups.com, "M. Manca" <m.manca <at> ...> wrote:
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> Il 02/05/2012 11:35, RonJeffries ha scritto:
> >  
> >
> > People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and
> > others on the list?
> >
> If they advise about conference, meetings and exhibitions I think may be
> acceptable, if they try to sell services not so much.
> >
> > Thanks,

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RonJeffries | 2 May 2012 18:38

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Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

Hi Avi ...
Let's listen to what people say for a bit but it is looking right now as if agile-ann may be the right answer.
Thanks,
R
On May 2, 2012, at 11:57 AM, typemock wrote:

> Certainly, if the members and moderators are not interested in these events, I will not post them here
anymore and you can always here about them on agile-ann and from Typemock.

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
Everything that needs to be said has already been said.
But since no one was listening, everything must be said again. -- Andre Gide

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George Dinwiddie | 2 May 2012 20:32

Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

Ron,

On 5/2/12 12:38 PM, RonJeffries wrote:
> Hi Avi ...
> Let's listen to what people say for a bit but it is looking right now
> as if agile-ann may be the right answer.

I would prefer to read announcements of webinars and training on the 
Agile-ANN list rather than here. (And I subscribe to both.)

  - George

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Adam Sroka | 2 May 2012 21:09

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Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

Ditto. I am also getting the Typemock webinar announcements from MANY
lists. I would like to request that they be *consolidated* to the Agile-ANN
lists rather than broadcast to every peripherally related list.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:32 AM, George Dinwiddie
<lists <at> idiacomputing.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Ron,
>
>
> On 5/2/12 12:38 PM, RonJeffries wrote:
> > Hi Avi ...
> > Let's listen to what people say for a bit but it is looking right now
> > as if agile-ann may be the right answer.
>
> I would prefer to read announcements of webinars and training on the
> Agile-ANN list rather than here. (And I subscribe to both.)
>
> - George
>
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> * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com
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> Consultant and Coach http://www.agilemaryland.org
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Chet Hendrickson | 2 May 2012 14:37

Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

Hello Ron,

I don't see these being consistent with the goals of the group.  They belong on the agile announcements
group. 

My guess is that typemock has never made a 'valid' post to this group.  What do you say type?

chet

Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 5:35:29 AM, you wrote:

  
People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and others on the list? 
Thanks,
R
On May 2, 2012, at 4:58 AM, typemock wrote:

> How do architects build software in an agile environment? 

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
I have two cats, and a big house full of cat stuff. The cats fight and divide up the house, messing up their own
lives. Nice work cats. Meow.

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John Roth | 2 May 2012 15:53

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Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

This is correct. As I remember it, "Avi" attempts to post spam every 
week or so. I've just been too lazy to ban him to reduce the clutter in 
the moderation queue.

John Roth

On 5/2/12 6:37 AM, Chet Hendrickson wrote:
>
> Hello Ron,
>
> I don't see these being consistent with the goals of the group. They 
> belong on the agile announcements group.
>
> My guess is that typemock has never made a 'valid' post to this group. 
> What do you say type?
>
> chet
>
> Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 5:35:29 AM, you wrote:
>
> People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and 
> others on the list?
> Thanks,
> R
> On May 2, 2012, at 4:58 AM, typemock wrote:
>
> > How do architects build software in an agile environment?
>
> Ron Jeffries
> www.XProgramming.com

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Ron Jeffries | 2 May 2012 18:31

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Test, ignore

Test, ignore

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Michael Hill | 2 May 2012 19:16

Re: Test, ignore

Why would you ever ignore a test?

Either the test is valid, in which case it represents a defect in the code,
or it's invalid, in which it represents a defect in the test.

Love,
Hill

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffriesacm <at> gmail.com>wrote:

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> Test, ignore
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Tim Ottinger | 2 May 2012 21:26

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Re: Test, ignore

A client's qa group is trying something new and tagging (not ignoring or deleting per se) tests iff it is not a
stop-ship issue AND a defect has been filed.  Nobody knows yet if it is a great convenience, a way to
stockpile pain, a brilliant stroke or a slippery slope. We will see.

I'm open to experimentation like this if it is done mindfully.

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Laurent Bossavit | 2 May 2012 16:21

Re: [ANN] Webinar: Software Architecture in an Agile Environment

> People, advise me. Do you wish to see these offers from typemock and others on the list? 

Nope.

Typemock's annoucements (which I've been annoyed by before) are spam, often cross-posted to the
universe. I've complained about them on Twitter, upon which I received an apparently contrite email from
Avi, asking how to "make things right".

I gave Avi my opinion on that - stop doing it and post a public apology on their website.

Never heard back. I see that my opinion wasn't taken into account - given that plus being a repeat offender,
Typemock's reputation is in the toilet with me.

Cheers,
Laurent

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