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Steven Smith | 2 May 2012 21:23
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Announcements

Perhaps the existence of the announcements list and the policy on this list
of announcements (that is, not to send them here, but rather there) could
be posted on a semi-regular basis so subscribers of this list know where to
look for and post about such things?

Steve

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Adam Sroka | 2 May 2012 21:26
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Re: Announcements

Some lists add it to the bit at the bottom. I'm neither for nor against
this approach, just suggesting it as an option.

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Charlie Poole | 3 May 2012 00:36
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Re: Announcements

Hi Steve,

You don't say why you are posting this suggestion but I did recently post
an announcement about XP2012, so I'll ask (1) what announcement list and
(2) what policy?

I've been posting announcements here for years and nobody has complained -
at least to me. Of course, many people could be grumbling to themselves, or
even to one another, without my being aware of it.

To my memory, the last time we discussed this topic here, everyone was
happy with a low volume of relevant announcements clearly tagged as such.
We also said that announcements from members of our community who want to
reach other members of our community were acceptable, while one-shot posts
made by people who join up for the purpose were not. My recollection could
be incomplete or even dead wrong, of course.

Ron, is there a policy?

Charlie

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Steven Smith <ssmith.lists <at> gmail.com>wrote:

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> Perhaps the existence of the announcements list and the policy on this list
> of announcements (that is, not to send them here, but rather there) could
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> look for and post about such things?
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RonJeffries | 3 May 2012 00:45
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Re: Announcements

Hi Charlie,

On May 2, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Charlie Poole wrote:

> Ron, is there a policy?

Not an official one. Informally, I would cut regular contributors such as you quite a bit of slack. I think
Avi's webinars are probably good (perhaps someone should go to it and report back) and they assure me that
they don't tout their product much if at all. But Avi makes no other contributions. Still, it might be useful.

That's why I asked ...

Ron Jeffries
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if another does indeed intend offense, it is foolish for me to permit it.
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Adam Sroka | 3 May 2012 00:54
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Re: Announcements

Honestly, the thing that annoys me about the webinar announcement is that
it is cross posted to several Agile related groups. I am fine with
occasional announcements, but I would lobby that we get rid of folks who
regularly cross post these announcements.

I would ask that if the XP list seemed like the best place for it you post
it here, but if there is another better place for it you post it there, but
not both. And, if there is no particular best place use the announcements
list for general announcements.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:45 PM, RonJeffries <ronjeffries <at> acm.org> wrote:

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> On May 2, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Charlie Poole wrote:
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> > Ron, is there a policy?
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> Not an official one. Informally, I would cut regular contributors such as
> you quite a bit of slack. I think Avi's webinars are probably good (perhaps
> someone should go to it and report back) and they assure me that they don't
> tout their product much if at all. But Avi makes no other contributions.
> Still, it might be useful.
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Charlie Poole | 3 May 2012 05:35
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Re: Announcements

Hi Ron,

Fascinating! I went to the group online and saw that there was an entire
discussion thread about this webinar, which I either never received or
managed to avoid reading. What most likely happens is that I see 'webinar'
in the subject line and delete without ever having to involve much of my
brain.

Reading through that announcement and the posts it generated, I note

1) It's from a commercial vendor
2) It's from someone who doesn't contribute here (except to announce
webinars) and probably doesn't even read the list (or he'd probably have
said something by now)
3) It's not targeted to the XP community particularly and is actually
posted to many lists besides this one

All that would lead me to think that the post belongs on some general
announcement list. No advertiser is likely to limit themselves to an
announcement list voluntarily, however.

Charlie

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