z00foodagile@gmail.com | 5 Jun 2012 19:47
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Self organizing teams

Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share about coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing?  The team in mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to scrum), consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master.  Thank you kindly.

Greg

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George Dinwiddie | 5 Jun 2012 21:18
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Re: Self organizing teams

Greg,

On 6/5/12 1:47 PM, z00foodagile <at> gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share
> about coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing? The
> team in mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to
> scrum), consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master. Thank
> you kindly.

Too much to write in an email. You might find 
http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/12/03/aye-2008-the-magic-chemistry-of-teams/ 
to have some good starting points. Or the Agile Toolkit podcasts 
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=444904 and 
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=451591

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Alan Dayley | 5 Jun 2012 21:23
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Re: Self organizing teams

Institute a WIP (Work In Progress) limit that is less than the number of people on the team.  That can help them get used to working together.

How do you institute that?  Well, suggest that they try it.

Alan

On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:18 PM, George Dinwiddie <lists <at> idiacomputing.com> wrote:

 

Greg,

On 6/5/12 1:47 PM, z00foodagile <at> gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share
> about coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing? The
> team in mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to
> scrum), consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master. Thank
> you kindly.

Too much to write in an email. You might find
http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/12/03/aye-2008-the-magic-chemistry-of-teams/
to have some good starting points. Or the Agile Toolkit podcasts
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=444904 and
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=451591

- George

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Mark Levison | 5 Jun 2012 21:36
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Re: Self organizing teams



On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Alan Dayley <alandd <at> dayleyagile.com> wrote:
 

Institute a WIP (Work In Progress) limit that is less than the number of people on the team.  That can help them get used to working together.

In fact I use the rule of thumb less than half the number of people on the team. I find with a team of 7 limiting them to 3 User Stories is vy good way to force them to talk.

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George Dinwiddie | 5 Jun 2012 21:18
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Greg,

On 6/5/12 1:47 PM, z00foodagile <at> gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share
> about coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing? The
> team in mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to
> scrum), consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master. Thank
> you kindly.

Too much to write in an email. You might find 
http://blog.gdinwiddie.com/2008/12/03/aye-2008-the-magic-chemistry-of-teams/ 
to have some good starting points. Or the Agile Toolkit podcasts 
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=444904 and 
http://agiletoolkit.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=451591

Do you have some specific questions? Or notice some specific things that 
don't seem right?

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Andrew Burrows | 5 Jun 2012 21:23
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Hey Greg,

Rather than changing the team, I think a good first step is to change the behavior of those people who are currently organizing and policing the team. The team will then have to adapt.

Best,

Andrew

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Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share about coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing?  The team in mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to scrum), consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master.  Thank you kindly.

Greg

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Bob | 5 Jun 2012 23:59
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Re: Self organizing teams

Hi Greg,

You may wish to have 1 week sprints and plan for doing 1 user story. If the story is completed early, select a
second story. Be sure to have the scrum master help isolate the team from unsolicited advice and
interference. The team must come to feel that all aspects of the work are their responsibility.

I also think that team size of 4 may actually work against you as a start-up scrum development team. It makes
it easier for the work to be divided up with no overlap or cross-functional training. Following Alan's
earlier advice of limiting WIP will help though.

Bob Boyd
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> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share about  
> coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing?  The team in  
> mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to scrum),  
> consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master.  Thank you kindly.
> 
> Greg 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
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ashish_wrt | 6 Jun 2012 21:39

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It is  brand new team. So first let them get used to the short iterative delivery cycles.

Once team has some experience, do not have a dedicated scrum master. Team should decide who among them plays
scrum master role.
Scrum folks prefer that whoever is playing SM role keeps Scrum Master work on higher priority than his work
on PBI.

Empower the team. 

I really like the suggestions by others on limiting the WIP. I have tried it in past and works well. You may
look at Kanban for more on it.

Manager and whoever in team is playing Scrum master role should watch out for any dysfunction and coach the team.

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> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share about  
> coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing?  The team in  
> mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to scrum),  
> consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master.  Thank you kindly.
> 
> Greg 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
>

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Edson Chavez | 11 Jun 2012 21:07
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Re: Re: Self organizing teams

Hi Everybody, 

it's not about Scrum but i want add the books "Peopleware" and "The Art of Agile Development", are really good about teams and agile practices

Regards.  

Edson 'Grubhart'
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2012/6/6 ashish_wrt <ashish <at> woodranchtech.com>
 


It is brand new team. So first let them get used to the short iterative delivery cycles.

Once team has some experience, do not have a dedicated scrum master. Team should decide who among them plays scrum master role.
Scrum folks prefer that whoever is playing SM role keeps Scrum Master work on higher priority than his work on PBI.

Empower the team.

I really like the suggestions by others on limiting the WIP. I have tried it in past and works well. You may look at Kanban for more on it.

Manager and whoever in team is playing Scrum master role should watch out for any dysfunction and coach the team.



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> Does anyone have any tips, experiences, or resources they can share about
> coaching a team to be more self organizing or self policing? The team in
> mind is a brand new scrum team (individuals relatively new to scrum),
> consists of 4 people, and has a dedicated scrum master. Thank you kindly.
>
> Greg
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Droid
>




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