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Barry Warsaw | 2 Oct 05:46
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RELEASED Python 2.6 final


On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I  
am happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the  
production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.

There are many new features and modules, improvements, bug fixes, and  
other changes in Python 2.6.  Please see the "What's new" page for  
details

     http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html

as well as PEP 361

     http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/

While Python 2.6 is backward compatible with earlier versions of  
Python, 2.6 has many tools and features that will help you migrate to  
Python 3.  Wherever possible, Python 3.0 features have been added  
without affecting existing code.  In other cases, the new features can  
be enabled through the use of __future__ imports and command line  
switches.

Python 3.0 is currently in release candidate and will be available  
later this year.  Both Python 2 and Python 3 will be supported for the  
foreseeable future.

Source tarballs, Windows installers, and Mac disk images can be  
downloaded from the Python 2.6 page:

     http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6/
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Aahz | 2 Oct 05:55

Re: RELEASED Python 2.6 final

Huzzah!
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Guido van Rossum | 2 Oct 05:59
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Congratulations, Barry!!!

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry <at> python.org> wrote:
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> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am
> happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the
> production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.
>
> There are many new features and modules, improvements, bug fixes, and other
> changes in Python 2.6.  Please see the "What's new" page for details
>
>    http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html
>
> as well as PEP 361
>
>    http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/
>
> While Python 2.6 is backward compatible with earlier versions of Python, 2.6
> has many tools and features that will help you migrate to Python 3.
>  Wherever possible, Python 3.0 features have been added without affecting
> existing code.  In other cases, the new features can be enabled through the
> use of __future__ imports and command line switches.
>
> Python 3.0 is currently in release candidate and will be available later
> this year.  Both Python 2 and Python 3 will be supported for the foreseeable
> future.
>
> Source tarballs, Windows installers, and Mac disk images can be downloaded
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Haoyu Bai | 2 Oct 06:19

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On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido <at> python.org> wrote:
> Congratulations, Barry!!!
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry <at> python.org> wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am
>> happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the
>> production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.
>>
>> There are many new features and modules, improvements, bug fixes, and other
>> changes in Python 2.6.  Please see the "What's new" page for details
>>
>>    http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html
>>
>> as well as PEP 361
>>
>>    http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/
>>
>> While Python 2.6 is backward compatible with earlier versions of Python, 2.6
>> has many tools and features that will help you migrate to Python 3.
>>  Wherever possible, Python 3.0 features have been added without affecting
>> existing code.  In other cases, the new features can be enabled through the
>> use of __future__ imports and command line switches.
>>
>> Python 3.0 is currently in release candidate and will be available later
>> this year.  Both Python 2 and Python 3 will be supported for the foreseeable
>> future.
>>
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Barry Warsaw | 2 Oct 14:11
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Re: RELEASED Python 2.6 final


On Oct 2, 2008, at 12:19 AM, Haoyu Bai wrote:

> Now almost all the pages on docs.python.org can't be accessed. For
> example http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html returns 403 forbidden.

Thanks to Georg and Thomas, the docs should all be fixed now.

-Barry
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Steven D'Aprano | 2 Oct 06:39

Re: RELEASED Python 2.6 final

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:46:45 pm Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I
> am happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the
> production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.

I'd like to thank you all very much for your hard work and for making 
such a great language. Cheers!

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Chris Rebert | 2 Oct 07:14

Re: RELEASED Python 2.6 final

Also, the docs currently seem broken.
Example: http://docs.python.org/library/weakref.html#module-weakref ,
which is linked to from the new module index page, gives a 404 error.

Cheers,
Chris Rebert

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Barry Warsaw <barry <at> python.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I am
> happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the
> production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.
>
> There are many new features and modules, improvements, bug fixes, and other
> changes in Python 2.6.  Please see the "What's new" page for details
>
>    http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html
>
> as well as PEP 361
>
>    http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/
>
> While Python 2.6 is backward compatible with earlier versions of Python, 2.6
> has many tools and features that will help you migrate to Python 3.
>  Wherever possible, Python 3.0 features have been added without affecting
> existing code.  In other cases, the new features can be enabled through the
> use of __future__ imports and command line switches.
>
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skip | 2 Oct 11:15
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    Chris> Also, the docs currently seem broken.

Known problem.  The elves are working on it.

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Christian Heimes | 2 Oct 08:08
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Nice!

Python 2.7 is waiting, let's get started! :)

Christian

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Ed Leafe | 2 Oct 19:54
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[NF] Fwd: RELEASED Python 2.6 final

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Subject: RELEASED Python 2.6 final

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On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I  
am happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the  
production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.

There are many new features and modules, improvements, bug fixes, and  
other changes in Python 2.6.  Please see the "What's new" page for  
details

    http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html

as well as PEP 361

    http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0361/

While Python 2.6 is backward compatible with earlier versions of  
Python, 2.6 has many tools and features that will help you migrate to  
Python 3.  Wherever possible, Python 3.0 features have been added  
without affecting existing code.  In other cases, the new features can
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Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI | 8 Dec 17:22

[NF] SharePoint question, very general

Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?

v/r

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Alan Bourke | 8 Dec 17:39
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Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

DotNetNuke?

Or do you mean on Linux when you say non-MS ?

Drupal? Rails ?
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Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI | 8 Dec 18:01

RE: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

I saw Drupal and I have just found HA Alfesco...

v/r

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DotNetNuke?

Or do you mean on Linux when you say non-MS ?

Drupal? Rails ?
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Ted Roche | 8 Dec 17:43

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6
MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe <at> macdill.af.mil> wrote:
> Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
> system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?

There is NOTHING in the world as badly broken as Sharepoint, sorry.

What is it you are trying to build?

A CMS? http://cmsmatrix.org/ (Try Drupal!)

A wiki? Wikipedia or Dokuwiki or...

A document management system? I hear great things about http://www.alfresco.com/

An instant website?

Sharepoint is a really bad combination of a user-controlled site, with
badly designed administrative features, wiki-like features, poor
document sharing, bad workflow designs, etc. Like Oracle or EIS
systems, if you have a set of high-priests who can spend fulltime
configuring and maintaining a system, it can do remarkable things. But
if you want easy-to-install, maintain, configure, etc. look elsewhere.
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Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI | 8 Dec 18:17

RE: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

Well, the USAF in its wisdom has deployed EIM (Enterprise Information
Management) which is SharePoint under the hood.
I'm not very impressed with InfoShare and the input documents you can
create, but that may be because they are only showing us the very, very
basics doing this deployment phase and we are expected to spend our own
local training dollars to learn more.

I was just interested if there were in viable alternatives.

v/r

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Subject: Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6
MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe <at> macdill.af.mil> wrote:
> Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
> system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?
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MB Software Solutions General Account | 8 Dec 18:22

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
> Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
> system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?

I can't recall the name of it, but IBM markets a product against SharePoint.
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Stephen Russell | 8 Dec 17:58

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6
MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe <at> macdill.af.mil> wrote:
> Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
> system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?
--------------------------------

Sharepoint is a bitch.  The current release is better than the earlier
versions but it is still kind of sucky

Lotus Notes is years ahead of Sharepoint.

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MB Software Solutions General Account | 8 Dec 18:32

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

Stephen Russell wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6
> MDSS/SGSI <Stephen.Wolfe <at> macdill.af.mil> wrote:
>> Outside of the Microsoft kingdom is there anything (that would be a
>> system) that does the same functionality as SharePoint?
> --------------------------------
>
> Sharepoint is a bitch.  The current release is better than the earlier
> versions but it is still kind of sucky
>
> Lotus Notes is years ahead of Sharepoint.
>

I thought Notes was the email program?  It's Lotus something, but I
didn't think it was Notes?  We just switched from Lotus Notes to M$
Outlook here at work and it was like night and day.  The Lotus Notes
email program I had absolutely SUCKED.
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Rick Schummer | 8 Dec 19:27
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>> I thought Notes was the email program?<<

Lotus Notes is a giant filing cabinet with capability to provide applications as an interface to the
backend filing cabinet. Email is more of a snap-in to the filing cabinet. The programming was
clunky, but I witnessed several General Motors departments using apps our group wrote for them. Ugly
interface and hard to use in many cases, but hardly just an email client.

Rick
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MB Software Solutions General Account | 8 Dec 20:06

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

Rick Schummer wrote:
> Lotus Notes is a giant filing cabinet with capability to provide
applications as an interface to the
> backend filing cabinet. Email is more of a snap-in to the filing
cabinet. The programming was
> clunky, but I witnessed several General Motors departments using apps
our group wrote for them. Ugly
> interface and hard to use in many cases, but hardly just an email client.

When you see really clunky software out there in use by some big
companies, it gives you a feeling of hope that you as the little guy
stand a chance because you write much better software than that stuff.
The real magic comes with getting your product to them.  The big dogs
have the distribution channel and reputation---that's a chance for the ISV.
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Stephen Russell | 8 Dec 20:17

Re: [NF] SharePoint question, very general

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 1:06 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account
<mbsoftwaresolutions <at> mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote:
> Rick Schummer wrote:
>> Lotus Notes is a giant filing cabinet with capability to provide
> applications as an interface to the
>> backend filing cabinet. Email is more of a snap-in to the filing
> cabinet. The programming was
>> clunky, but I witnessed several General Motors departments using apps
> our group wrote for them. Ugly
>> interface and hard to use in many cases, but hardly just an email client.
>
>
> When you see really clunky software out there in use by some big
> companies, it gives you a feeling of hope that you as the little guy
> stand a chance because you write much better software than that stuff.
> The real magic comes with getting your product to them.  The big dogs
> have the distribution channel and reputation---that's a chance for the ISV.
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I saw a few small scaled apps at International Paper in Notes and we
put them up against Sharepoint in it's early version.  Notes kicked
butt, well our programmers for Notes had 5+ years experience and it
showed.

Notes for email is not as good as Outlook.

But some of the PM systems in Notes for attaching everything to a
project kick ass.  Allowing users to book time against the projects
for roll ups against the quote it was real nice that it worked easily.
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Philip Borkholder | 9 Dec 18:12
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Exceed! Basic

Hello all,
Is anyone familiar with Exceed! Basic? It is apparently in VFP.
Does anyone have the data structure listing?
I need to export my application's data to it's structure.
I wanted to do some homework here before diving into it.

Thanks,
Philip
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Barry Warsaw | 2 Oct 21:27
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Re: RELEASED Python 2.6 final


On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:

> On behalf of the Python development team and the Python community, I  
> am happy to announce the release of Python 2.6 final.  This is the  
> production-ready version of the latest in the Python 2 series.
>
> Source tarballs, Windows installers, and Mac disk images can be  
> downloaded from the Python 2.6 page:
>
>    http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.6/

Due to a minor snafu in our build scripts, the source tgz and tar.bz2  
files contained some extra cruft.  I have created and uploaded new  
tarballs but I have /not/ bumped the Python version number since they  
were made from exactly the same Subversion tag.  The new tarballs are  
identical to the originals except that they don't contain the cruft  
(.svn files and such).

If you have already downloaded the tarballs, you do not need to  
download the new ones. The new tarballs are about 2MB smaller though.

With apologies,
-Barry
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