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horia m | 26 Jun 13:01

exporting separate effort per task or subtask

it may be already answered, but perhaps I didn't search enough in your
old postings:

i would like to export the effort (per day or detailed) of a single
task or subtask.
ist this possible? how?

my wish would also be to have a better exporter, that would export
more excel or open-office apropriate data. The comma-separated export
has some bugs (at least for me) :
- it exports wrong the non-english signs (like the german ö, ü, ä)
- it creates some problems to excel or open office, so that some data
is placed in the wrong columns or rows 

generally, I have to work a lot to transform the data from task coach
to a table that I can send to a client or colleague, regarding the
hourly situation of my work, of just ONE single project (that is: task).

thanks in advance for your explanations!
Horia

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Frank Niessink | 26 Jun 16:21

Re: exporting separate effort per task or subtask

Hi Horia,

2008/6/26 horia m <horia@...>:
> i would like to export the effort (per day or detailed) of a single
> task or subtask.

In the effort viewer, filter the task you want by using the search
control in the toolbar and then export.

> my wish would also be to have a better exporter, that would export
> more excel or open-office apropriate data. The comma-separated export
> has some bugs (at least for me) :
> - it exports wrong the non-english signs (like the german ö, ü, ä)

Please open a bug report for this on sourceforge. Please provide an
example task file.

> - it creates some problems to excel or open office, so that some data
> is placed in the wrong columns or rows

Please open a bug report this too. Please provide additional details
such as an example task file and explain how you do the export.

> generally, I have to work a lot to transform the data from task coach
> to a table that I can send to a client or colleague, regarding the
> hourly situation of my work, of just ONE single project (that is: task).

Again, use the search control to limit the tasks visible in a viewer
to just the one your interested in and then export/print.
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horia m | 7 Jul 02:14

Re: exporting separate effort per task or subtask

Hi Frank,
thank you for your reply. I tried now again the part regarding export
of the effort details of a certain task:

1) i filter the tasks by mean of categories, leaving just that group,
to which belongs a certain subtask which I want to export.

2) when opening any effort view (daily, detail, etc.), there is ALL
the effort details that I have in taskcoach, and not only the effort
detail regarding the category that I filtered at point 1)
the filtering is thou effecting just on the tasktree or tasklists, but
not on the effort lists.

3) when trying to filter the effort view, I had some problems and
erratic effects, but in the end the things started to work. Curiously
enough, the word I chose for testing the searching function of the
effort list, generated permanently a bug: it produces an empty list
after search. All other words work wonderful and well, but that only
one is NOT working at all.

Also, I have discovered some problems regarding the search function,
when using it by having several viewers open. I will try to fill in a
bug form about this.

greetings from Vienna,
Horia

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> Hi Horia,
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Jerome Laheurte | 8 Jul 12:32
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, horia m wrote:

> Hi Frank,
> thank you for your reply. I tried now again the part regarding export
> of the effort details of a certain task:
>
> 1) i filter the tasks by mean of categories, leaving just that group,
> to which belongs a certain subtask which I want to export.
>
> 2) when opening any effort view (daily, detail, etc.), there is ALL
> the effort details that I have in taskcoach, and not only the effort
> detail regarding the category that I filtered at point 1)
> the filtering is thou effecting just on the tasktree or tasklists, but
> not on the effort lists.

Indeed, the efforts are not affected by the category filter since they 
aren't categorized. I'm not sure this is intended.

> 3) when trying to filter the effort view, I had some problems and
> erratic effects, but in the end the things started to work. Curiously
> enough, the word I chose for testing the searching function of the
> effort list, generated permanently a bug: it produces an empty list
> after search. All other words work wonderful and well, but that only
> one is NOT working at all.

The search string is actually a regular expression, not a substring. 
The bug here is that there is no guard against invalid regular 
expressions in the filter code. I'll fix this but the release will 
have to wait until Franck returns.
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horia m | 9 Jul 11:54

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--- In taskcoach@..., Jerome Laheurte <fraca7@...> wrote:

> Indeed, the efforts are not affected by the category filter since they 
> aren't categorized. I'm not sure this is intended. (...)
> Thanks.
> 
> Cheers
> Jérôme

Dear Jérome, 
i think the sorting of the efforts in categories would be an important
matter. 
At least, for me it works like this:

I work often in counselling matters that means payment per worked
hours. I have a series of projects running in parallel in my
taskcoach, and each project belongs to another customer. Usually, the
customers want to see a detailed efforts list of my work, and not just
a cumulative one,  as Taskcoach can print or export from the main
panel (task tree).
This means, I have to export ALL efforts, sorted per day, and then
import them in excel, and delete by hand each and every effort that
does not belong to the project I need. This is of course not the idea.

So, as I took taskcoach mainly for using it like described, it is
quite sad that it cannot do this kind of listin. I am not a software
professional, but I imagine that the database entries of whole pool of
efforts can be ordered after an argument like "task name" or similar.
This feature would be essential for me, and for a lot of people in
law, architecture, arts or management freelance areas from Austria,
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Jerome Laheurte | 9 Jul 11:48
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, horia m wrote:

> --- In taskcoach@..., Jerome Laheurte <fraca7@...> wrote:
>
>> Indeed, the efforts are not affected by the category filter since they
>> aren't categorized. I'm not sure this is intended. (...)
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jérôme
>
> Dear Jérome,
> i think the sorting of the efforts in categories would be an important
> matter.

Then please fill in a feature request on SourceForge. I'm still not 
sure if it should be a feature request or a bug report, we'll let 
Franck decide this :)

Cheers
Jérôme
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Frank Niessink | 28 Jul 16:23

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Hi,

2008/7/8 Jerome Laheurte <fraca7@...>:
> Indeed, the efforts are not affected by the category filter since they
> aren't categorized. I'm not sure this is intended.

No, not intended. I remember that when I added searching for tasks,
updating the effort viewers would be very slow so I decided at that
time not to filter the effort viewers when a task viewer was filtered
or searched. We can try again and see whether performance is
acceptable?

> The search string is actually a regular expression, not a substring.
> The bug here is that there is no guard against invalid regular
> expressions in the filter code. I'll fix this but the release will
> have to wait until Franck returns.

Maybe the best thing is to ditch the regular expression altogether and
just check whether the search string is a substring of the subject?

Cheers, Frank

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Jerome Laheurte | 28 Jul 16:22
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008, Frank Niessink wrote:

>> The search string is actually a regular expression, not a substring.
>> The bug here is that there is no guard against invalid regular
>> expressions in the filter code. I'll fix this but the release will
>> have to wait until Franck returns.
>
> Maybe the best thing is to ditch the regular expression altogether and
> just check whether the search string is a substring of the subject?

Mmmh, I think technically-oriented people expect to be able to use 
regular expressions (I do). What I've done is that if the search 
string is a valid regular expression, we use it as such, if not we 
default to substring (with a tooltip showing up saying what's 
happening).

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Frank Niessink | 28 Jul 17:16

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Hi Jerome,

2008/7/28 Jerome Laheurte <fraca7@...>:
> Mmmh, I think technically-oriented people expect to be able to use
> regular expressions (I do). What I've done is that if the search
> string is a valid regular expression, we use it as such, if not we
> default to substring (with a tooltip showing up saying what's
> happening).

That's great. As long as it is intuitive for non-technical people I'm happy :-)

Cheers, Frank

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