Yujianbin | 17 Aug 02:53 2011

Re: Maybe a bug in sync

Hi Stephan,

That is another DVCS - Veracity(http://veracity-scm.com). 
Veracity has almost the same functions as Fossil. But it has not the defect 
of the function 'sync'. The scripts are under Veracity. Veracity has the 
executable file named 'vv.exe'.

Best regards.

Justin Yu

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Re: [fossil-users] Maybe a bug in sync
Stephan Beal [sgbeal <at> googlemail.com]
2011-08-16 (星期二) 21:41

2011/8/16 Yujianbin <yujianbin <at> huawei.com>
vv repo delete ops.server
vv init ops.server
vv whoami --create Server

i'm not sure what you're trying to show us - vv is not fossil. Fossil has no whoami command.
 
vv serve --port 443 --public

nor does it have a serve command.

D:\client>vv history
         revision:  4:f34dca635cd1ddaae759488858ee316a0d849b9a
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Eric | 17 Aug 09:09 2011
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Re: Maybe a bug in sync


On Wed, August 17, 2011 1:53 am, Yujianbin wrote:
> Hi Stephan,
>
> That is another DVCS - Veracity(http://veracity-scm.com).
> Veracity has almost the same functions as Fossil. But it has not the
> defect
> of the function 'sync'. The scripts are under Veracity. Veracity has the
> executable file named 'vv.exe'.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Justin Yu
>

So what you are saying Justin is that you think you've found a bug in
Fossil. Fine, it will be either explained or fixed.

But then you say that there's this other DVCS with a different design
philosophy and a different internal structure and when you do what you
think are equivalent operations to what you did with Fossil, you don't
find an equivalent bug!

I'm sorry but that doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't prove
anything, nor does it help anyone to solve your problem.

Regarfd,

Eric

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Remigiusz Modrzejewski | 17 Aug 18:32 2011
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On Aug 17, 2011, at 09:09 , Eric wrote:

>> That is another DVCS - Veracity(http://veracity-scm.com).
> 
> But then you say that there's this other DVCS with a different design
> philosophy and a different internal structure

Don't know about internals, but on the first look the design seems to be pretty similar... And extremally
immature as of now:

> Veracity's current bug tracker really isn't designed for the needs of an open source project. We'll fix
that eventually.

Anyhow, it looks to me like Fossil plus Scrum support and file locks. Out of which only the second seems to be
worth it in some corner cases. See here for explanation:

http://veracity-scm.com/qa/questions/102/why-would-you-design-a-dvcs-in-2011-that-supports-file-locks-dvcs-are-meant-to-make-it-needless-to-worry-about-that

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski
Tomek Kott | 17 Aug 19:14 2011
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All info about veracity aside...anyone have any idea why there doesn't seem to be an obvious error in the fossil sync, yet a file is not being synced?

The httptrace doesn't indicate anything wrong (to my untrained eyes), but obviously doesn't include file content. Any ideas?

Tomek

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski <lrem-XyikHjYVCjQ8ulXx0R22YQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:

On Aug 17, 2011, at 09:09 , Eric wrote:

>> That is another DVCS - Veracity(http://veracity-scm.com).
>
> But then you say that there's this other DVCS with a different design
> philosophy and a different internal structure

Don't know about internals, but on the first look the design seems to be pretty similar... And extremally immature as of now:

> Veracity's current bug tracker really isn't designed for the needs of an open source project. We'll fix that eventually.

Anyhow, it looks to me like Fossil plus Scrum support and file locks. Out of which only the second seems to be worth it in some corner cases. See here for explanation:

http://veracity-scm.com/qa/questions/102/why-would-you-design-a-dvcs-in-2011-that-supports-file-locks-dvcs-are-meant-to-make-it-needless-to-worry-about-that

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski

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Martin S. Weber | 17 Aug 19:37 2011

Re: Maybe a bug in sync

On 08/17/11 13:14, Tomek Kott wrote:
> All info about veracity aside...anyone have any idea why there doesn't
> seem to be an obvious error in the fossil sync, yet a file is not being
> synced?

By "a file is not being synced" you mean "the server's checkout in the 
filesystem doesn't get updated"? (which seems to me to be the correct thing to 
do).

-Martin
Tomek Kott | 17 Aug 19:56 2011
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On 08/17/11 13:14, Tomek Kott wrote:
> All info about veracity aside...anyone have any idea why there doesn't
> seem to be an obvious error in the fossil sync, yet a file is not being
> synced?

By "a file is not being synced" you mean "the server's checkout in the
filesystem doesn't get updated"? (which seems to me to be the correct thing to
do).


No, that is not what I mean. The problem appears to be that the client, which has an update, won't sync the commit or file over to the server (which happens to be on the same computer). This is not a problem with not using 'fossil up', the file & commit are simply not synced back to the server. 

If you look through the responses + httptrace info, it is clear that the file is never being sent. The question remains why that would happen!

Tomek
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Remigiusz Modrzejewski | 17 Aug 19:42 2011
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On Aug 17, 2011, at 19:14 , Tomek Kott wrote:

> All info about veracity aside...anyone have any idea why there doesn't seem
> to be an obvious error in the fossil sync, yet a file is not being synced?
> 
> The httptrace doesn't indicate anything wrong (to my untrained eyes), but
> obviously doesn't include file content. Any ideas?

Was anybody able to reproduce the problematic situation? I'm not even able to run .bat files, as I don't have
a Windows instance handy...

Kind regards,
Remigiusz Modrzejewski
Tomek Kott | 17 Aug 20:00 2011
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Was anybody able to reproduce the problematic situation? I'm not even able to run .bat files, as I don't have a Windows instance handy...

I haven't run the batch files either -- I'm just typing things in by hand (the same commands as if it were batch files). I can't reproduce the error either, and fossil doesn't seem to be throwing a fit over anything, and the only thing about the httptrace output that confirms the error is that there is no file information sent. As to why that would happen I don't know.

Tomek
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