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Rémi Denis-Courmont | 18 Jun 2010 04:04
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[videolan-announce] VLC 1.0 series End of Life

	Hello,

The official release of VLC media player and LibVLC version 1.1.0 is coming to a 
close. The badly stretched VLC development team is not currently able to 
maintain more than two development branches at a time. The team has been 
focusing on the VLC 1.2 future series and the VLC 1.1 stable series.

As a consequence, source code for VLC 1.0 is not officially unmaintained 
anymore. There will be no further security or major bug fixes. The last version 
was 1.0.6 and will be marked formally obsolete if/when a major issue is 
discovered. I would also like to remind you that:
- the LibVLC API is known to be broken in all 1.0.x releases,
- that the Mozilla plugin is broken on X11 platforms in release 1.0.6, and
- that binary packages (Windows, MacOS) have already been discontinued.

If you need any of these, please update to VLC 1.1.0-RC3 already, or 1.1.0 at 
the earliest.

N.B.: VLC 1.0.5, 0.9.10, 0.8.6i and older versions exhibit known published 
security issues. Update urgently if you have not already done so.

Best regards,

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xxcv | 18 Jun 2010 09:01
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On 18/06/2010 12:04 PM, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> 	Hello,
>
> The official release of VLC media player and LibVLC version 1.1.0 is coming to a
> close. The badly stretched VLC development team is not currently able to
> maintain more than two development branches at a time. The team has been
> focusing on the VLC 1.2 future series and the VLC 1.1 stable series.
>
> As a consequence, source code for VLC 1.0 is not officially unmaintained
> anymore. There will be no further security or major bug fixes. The last version
> was 1.0.6 and will be marked formally obsolete if/when a major issue is
> discovered. I would also like to remind you that:
> - the LibVLC API is known to be broken in all 1.0.x releases,
> - that the Mozilla plugin is broken on X11 platforms in release 1.0.6, and
> - that binary packages (Windows, MacOS) have already been discontinued.
>
> If you need any of these, please update to VLC 1.1.0-RC3 already, or 1.1.0 at
> the earliest.
>
> N.B.: VLC 1.0.5, 0.9.10, 0.8.6i and older versions exhibit known published
> security issues. Update urgently if you have not already done so.
>
> Best regards,
>
Hi,
Finally for this call. All good!
And 1.1 has been a long long way since VLC was developed 12 years ago.
Truly you guys have done well, not only that but it still isn't perfect.
Anyhow, I was in lost touch with the source code for few months.
I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
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Jean-Baptiste Kempf | 18 Jun 2010 09:08
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:01:24PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
> I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
...

> Reasons been.
> 1. Too many hacking.
Reasons? facts?

> 2. Too messy coding.
Reasons? facts?

> 3. Too much confusions.
Reasons? facts?

> 4. Too little development (except the playlist).
man git log...

> JB, what have you been doing all this time QT needs you! Aren't you a  
> bit of a slacker. (just joking...) Qt module is just about  
> fine/ok/good/normal/pass (at least it is free).

Well, as you might have seen, I have spent a lot of time doing win32
fixes, VideoLAN administration and bugtracking/squashing...

The Qt interface has evolved quite a bit and the code is quite clean
(except the hatred qt4.cpp)
The main_interface layout and code is complex but clean and many
evolution have crept in.

I wanted to finish the evolutions, but unfortunately, no time to.
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xxcv | 18 Jun 2010 09:58
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On 18/06/2010 5:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:01:24PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
>> I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
> ...
>
>> Reasons been.
>> 1. Too many hacking.
> Reasons? facts?
>
>> 2. Too messy coding.
> Reasons? facts?
>
>> 3. Too much confusions.
> Reasons? facts?
>
>> 4. Too little development (except the playlist).
> man git log...
>
>> JB, what have you been doing all this time QT needs you! Aren't you a
>> bit of a slacker. (just joking...) Qt module is just about
>> fine/ok/good/normal/pass (at least it is free).
>
> Well, as you might have seen, I have spent a lot of time doing win32
> fixes, VideoLAN administration and bugtracking/squashing...
>
> The Qt interface has evolved quite a bit and the code is quite clean
> (except the hatred qt4.cpp)
> The main_interface layout and code is complex but clean and many
> evolution have crept in.
>
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xxcv | 18 Jun 2010 11:14
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On 18/06/2010 5:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:01:24PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
>> I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
> ...
>
>> Reasons been.
>> 1. Too many hacking.
> Reasons? facts?
Means I don't like it.
>
>> 2. Too messy coding.
> Reasons? facts?
I don't like it again.
>
>> 3. Too much confusions.
> Reasons? facts?
I was confused because you guys did it the other way round I think.
>
>> 4. Too little development (except the playlist).
> man git log...
Yes I read that.
BTW, forgot tell you, I revert your code, no offense because I don't 
like it. It was around this same time last year I switched to vlc w64 
binary + ffmpeg-mt working together!

I still like VLC nevertheless.

Good Job!

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Jean-Baptiste Kempf | 18 Jun 2010 11:22
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:14:55PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
>>> Reasons been.
>>> 1. Too many hacking.
>> Reasons? facts?
> Means I don't like it.
>>
>>> 2. Too messy coding.
>> Reasons? facts?
> I don't like it again.
>>
>>> 3. Too much confusions.
>> Reasons? facts?
> I was confused because you guys did it the other way round I think.
>>
>>> 4. Too little development (except the playlist).
>> man git log...
> Yes I read that.
> BTW, forgot tell you, I revert your code, no offense because I don't  
> like it.

Maybe if you stop reverting the code, you might like it...

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xxcv | 18 Jun 2010 11:34
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On 18/06/2010 7:22 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:14:55PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
>>>> Reasons been.
>>>> 1. Too many hacking.
>>> Reasons? facts?
>> Means I don't like it.
>>>
>>>> 2. Too messy coding.
>>> Reasons? facts?
>> I don't like it again.
>>>
>>>> 3. Too much confusions.
>>> Reasons? facts?
>> I was confused because you guys did it the other way round I think.
>>>
>>>> 4. Too little development (except the playlist).
>>> man git log...
>> Yes I read that.
>> BTW, forgot tell you, I revert your code, no offense because I don't
>> like it.
>
> Maybe if you stop reverting the code, you might like it...
>
>
Hmm, good try to make me, to like your qt4 code..
I remember you I think some 12 years ago, I ask a question in IRC it was 
you who has trying to help me!
(nope, I'm not trying to Troll on your list, jk)

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Ilkka Ollakka | 18 Jun 2010 11:24
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:14:55PM +1000, xxcv wrote:
> On 18/06/2010 5:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:01:24PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
> >>I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
> >...

I would like to say, that bad trolling is bad..

> >>Reasons been.
> >>1. Too many hacking.
> >Reasons? facts?
> Means I don't like it.

Please make specific points on what you don't like, send patches to fix
them. Making vague claims without anything to back it up is just bad
trolling.

> >>3. Too much confusions.
> >Reasons? facts?
> I was confused because you guys did it the other way round I think.

We can't take responsibility of your confusion..

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xxcv | 18 Jun 2010 11:31
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Re: VLC 1.0 series End of Life

HI Ilkka Ollakka:

On 18/06/2010 7:24 PM, Ilkka Ollakka wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 07:14:55PM +1000, xxcv wrote:
>> On 18/06/2010 5:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:01:24PM +1000, xxcv wrote :
>>>> I'd like to add I hate the QT interface of 1.1.
>>> ...
>
> I would like to say, that bad trolling is bad..
mate, I'm not trying to troll...
I tried my life for playing with VLC.. (no trolling)
>
>>>> Reasons been.
>>>> 1. Too many hacking.
>>> Reasons? facts?
>> Means I don't like it.

>
> Please make specific points on what you don't like, send patches to fix
> them. Making vague claims without anything to back it up is just bad
> trolling.
I am not trying to claim anything, that's all my feelings, btw am not 
trying to troll also. However my points might not be specific to your 
development but that's just my personal opinions.
>
>>>> 3. Too much confusions.
>>> Reasons? facts?
>> I was confused because you guys did it the other way round I think.
>
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