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Jan Fricke | 10 Feb 09:44
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Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Joegen Baclor | 10 Feb 09:57

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Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.

On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Michael Picher | 10 Feb 11:21
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What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.


On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Joegen Baclor | 10 Feb 12:06

Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible

On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:
What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.


On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Michael Picher | 10 Feb 12:16
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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible


On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:
What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.


On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Tony Graziano | 10 Feb 12:41
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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible


On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:
What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.


On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

_____________________________

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Jan Fricke | 10 Feb 12:57
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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

What if the other pbx is from the dark side of the force (asterisk)? :-X That’s the case in the scenario I try defeat.

Any suggestions? When connecting two SipX IM would be better than nothing.

 

Is there may be a way to configure softkeys on my polycom with a custom config file which creates a peer-to-peer presence key? Could not find anything like that in the polycom guides up to now.

 

Thanks for the input so far…

 

Ps: Could presence between several different sipx installations be interesting as feature for a release > 4.6? Can’t estimate what has to be done to enable this and how much effort it means.

 

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Von: sipx-dev-bounces <at> list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-dev-bounces <at> list.sipfoundry.org] Im Auftrag von Tony Graziano
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IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible



On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:

What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.



On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Tony Graziano | 10 Feb 13:09
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I think it would be easier to put an * specific handset or softphone or HUD at the remote users end "separate" from their sipx phone. Remember, * uses a lot of their own API and IAX junk ro extending features, it's not exactly "sip", whereas, "sip"xecs is.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Jan Fricke <jan.fricke <at> iant.de> wrote:

What if the other pbx is from the dark side of the force (asterisk)? :-X That’s the case in the scenario I try defeat.

Any suggestions? When connecting two SipX IM would be better than nothing.

 

Is there may be a way to configure softkeys on my polycom with a custom config file which creates a peer-to-peer presence key? Could not find anything like that in the polycom guides up to now.

 

Thanks for the input so far…

 

Ps: Could presence between several different sipx installations be interesting as feature for a release > 4.6? Can’t estimate what has to be done to enable this and how much effort it means.

 

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IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible



On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:

What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.



On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Jan,


Do you mean like a cluster of clusters?  i.e., a forest (in ldap / ad slang)?

We *might* already be thinking about things like that ;-)

Mike

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Jan Fricke <jan.fricke <at> iant.de> wrote:

What if the other pbx is from the dark side of the force (asterisk)? :-X That’s the case in the scenario I try defeat.

Any suggestions? When connecting two SipX IM would be better than nothing.

 

Is there may be a way to configure softkeys on my polycom with a custom config file which creates a peer-to-peer presence key? Could not find anything like that in the polycom guides up to now.

 

Thanks for the input so far…

 

Ps: Could presence between several different sipx installations be interesting as feature for a release > 4.6? Can’t estimate what has to be done to enable this and how much effort it means.

 

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IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible



On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:

What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.



On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

if it matters --- this type of integration has been done with mail systems (using the same backend, exchange, lotus, groupwise) by their publishers for seeing the status and doing busy searches of calendars between domains that are in separate trees, etc..


They would all use a "gateway" and you would have to provide some credential information specific for that function, and an ip (or in our case a sipdomain) and port and be ablle to search calendars and schedule meetings "cross-domain".

This would be a neat functionality to introduce between sipx servers using different sip domains (IMO) without using IM (BLF for phones).

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Michael Picher <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:
Jan,

Do you mean like a cluster of clusters?  i.e., a forest (in ldap / ad slang)?

We *might* already be thinking about things like that ;-)

Mike

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Jan Fricke <jan.fricke <at> iant.de> wrote:

What if the other pbx is from the dark side of the force (asterisk)? :-X That’s the case in the scenario I try defeat.

Any suggestions? When connecting two SipX IM would be better than nothing.

 

Is there may be a way to configure softkeys on my polycom with a custom config file which creates a peer-to-peer presence key? Could not find anything like that in the polycom guides up to now.

 

Thanks for the input so far…

 

Ps: Could presence between several different sipx installations be interesting as feature for a release > 4.6? Can’t estimate what has to be done to enable this and how much effort it means.

 

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Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Februar 2012 12:42
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IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible



On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:

What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.



On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

_____________________________

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IANT- APPLIED NGN-TECHNOLOGIES

 

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Fon: +49 5331/ 6794-0

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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

You can actually monitor presence of a user on another system using the following setup:

 

1.       The target user’s system must be a sipXecs based system running 4.2 or greater

2.       The target user’s host part of the URI must be defined as a gateway in a “site-to-site” dial plan rule

3.       The speed dial entry must be a full URI with the user part the User ID, not an alias

 

Nortel/Avaya implemented code in 4.2 with the site-to-site rule that addressed the authentication issue.

 

We have a customer who routes all inbound PSTN calls for 5 different systems to a central operator who first handles the call.  If the called party is on the phone, the operator transfers the call immediately to the called party’s voicemail.  If they are available, the operator transfers the call to the user.  Four of the locations are running a sipXecs 4.4 based systems.  One is running a 4.2.1 sipXecs based system.

 

They are using VOP at the operator’s station.  There is a limitation on the number of users who can be monitored.  We have found that sipstatus will not send out SUBSCRIBEs to the target users if you have over 99 users whose status you are attempting to monitor.  I assume it is an array size issue in sipstatus.

 

DD

 

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Subject: Re: [sipx-dev] Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

 

if it matters --- this type of integration has been done with mail systems (using the same backend, exchange, lotus, groupwise) by their publishers for seeing the status and doing busy searches of calendars between domains that are in separate trees, etc..

 

They would all use a "gateway" and you would have to provide some credential information specific for that function, and an ip (or in our case a sipdomain) and port and be ablle to search calendars and schedule meetings "cross-domain".

 

This would be a neat functionality to introduce between sipx servers using different sip domains (IMO) without using IM (BLF for phones).

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Michael Picher <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Jan,

 

Do you mean like a cluster of clusters?  i.e., a forest (in ldap / ad slang)?

 

We *might* already be thinking about things like that ;-)

 

Mike

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Jan Fricke <jan.fricke <at> iant.de> wrote:

What if the other pbx is from the dark side of the force (asterisk)? :-X That’s the case in the scenario I try defeat.

Any suggestions? When connecting two SipX IM would be better than nothing.

 

Is there may be a way to configure softkeys on my polycom with a custom config file which creates a peer-to-peer presence key? Could not find anything like that in the polycom guides up to now.

 

Thanks for the input so far…

 

Ps: Could presence between several different sipx installations be interesting as feature for a release > 4.6? Can’t estimate what has to be done to enable this and how much effort it means.

 

_____________________________

Jan Fricke B.Sc. Cs.

 

IANT- APPLIED NGN-TECHNOLOGIES

 

Schlüsselfertige VoIP-Lösungen und mehr...

 

Member of GROUPLINK

 

IANT GmbH

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D-38302 Wolfenbüttel

Fon: +49 5331/ 6794-0

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Mail: jan.fricke <at> iant.de

Internet: www.iant.de 

 

 

 

Von: sipx-dev-bounces <at> list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:sipx-dev-bounces <at> list.sipfoundry.org] Im Auftrag von Tony Graziano
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Februar 2012 12:42
An: sipXecs developer discussions
Betreff: Re: [sipx-dev] Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

 

IM would give him this capability.

On Feb 10, 2012 6:17 AM, "Michael Picher" <mpicher <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

true...  was just looking for a work-around for him...

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

That's a totally different ballgame.  The OP was BLF crossing domain boundaries and he want it achieved via config.  That's not possible



On 02/10/2012 06:21 PM, Michael Picher wrote:

What if the phone had a second line registered on the second system?

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Joegen Baclor <jbaclor <at> ezuce.com> wrote:

Won't work since RLS would only be authoritative to its own domain.  it wont try to maintain the presence document for a phone belonging to an external domain.  If you want to do that, then you must send RLS subscription directly to the remote PBX.   the call watcher also requires that the phone registers to sipx before it starts monitoring dialog state.  In both cases, it's a dead end.



On 02/10/2012 04:44 PM, Jan Fricke wrote:

Hi members,

is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence of extensions on another pbx?

 

I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

 

Sincerely

 

Jan

 

_____________________________

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IANT- APPLIED NGN-TECHNOLOGIES

 

Schlüsselfertige VoIP-Lösungen und mehr...

 

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Re: Subscribe presence of extensions on another pbx

> From: Jan Fricke [jan.fricke <at> iant.de]
> 
> is there a way to have BLFs on my polycom which subscribe the presence
> of extensions on another pbx?
> 
> I’ve tried to add a speed dial with the number 101 <at> 10.99.10.14 and
> checked subscribe to presence. Should the RLS/Presence Server try to
> send subscribe messages to 10.99.10.14?

The RLS itself will subscribe to any SIP URI to get status (dialog
events).  The tricky part is getting the configuration system to
insert your desired SIP URI into RLS's configuration file.  At one
time, you did this by writing the full SIP URI ("sip:101 <at> 10.99.10.14")
into the extension box on the speed-dial page.  You could try that,
and also the URI with "sip:" omitted.

(I am assuming that the SIP URI does support dialog events, that is, a
SUBSCRIBE for dialog events sent across the Internet will establish a
subscription.)

Dale
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