B.K. DeLong | 11 Mar 00:24 2007
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Re: [foaf-dev] FOAF-based whitelisting project

I think this is a GREAT idea as none of the social networks seem to be
embracing anything more than the export of FOAF files.

I think the key here is that once there's stable integration of FOAF
into whitelisting/blacklisting then working with Google, Hotmail,
Yahoo! and other services that allow "contact lists" would help to
proliferate the project.

Have you approached the various antispam and SPF groups for buy-in and support?

On 3/10/07, Kjetil Kjernsmo <kjetil@...> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Some of you might have noticed that I started "Community Projects" with
> the W3C semweb Education and Outreach IG, and submitted a proposal
> myself, about using FOAF-based trust networks for whitelisting email.
> And blacklisting too.
>
> The project overview is at
> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/FOAFWhitelisting
>
> Importantly, I want to build it using the most basic data, really
> identifying people, context-dependant trust, etc, will need to be added
> as we go. I just want to make this useful as quickly as possible.
>
> If no-one objects, I intend to use foaf-dev as the project mailing list.
> After all, it should be the core topic of this list. Of course, I have
> other options as well, I even have a mailman install of my own, but I
> hope to engage people here, and besides, it isn't that much activity
> anyway.
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Kjetil Kjernsmo | 12 Mar 00:07 2007
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Re: [foaf-dev] FOAF-based whitelisting project

On Sunday 11 March 2007 00:24, B.K. DeLong wrote:
> I think this is a GREAT idea as none of the social networks seem to
> be embracing anything more than the export of FOAF files.

Yup, and Danny had a recent blogpost where he discussed what use FOAF 
is:
http://dannyayers.com/2007/02/27/so-i-have-a-foaf
And I think this is going to be making FOAF a lot more useful

> I think the key here is that once there's stable integration of FOAF
> into whitelisting/blacklisting then working with Google, Hotmail,
> Yahoo! and other services that allow "contact lists" would help to
> proliferate the project.

Yeah, that would be really cool!

>
> Have you approached the various antispam and SPF groups for buy-in
> and support?

Not really, I've had an SA bug for it for a long time:
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3408
Hmmm, I thought I sent a follow-up to that bug... I think I should ping 
Justin Mason directly, he has been really interested in this for a long 
time, and has a lot of experience in spam-fighting and knows the 
spammer's tricks. Also, I've sent a message to the qpsmtpd list.

I used to hang out on news.admin.net-abuse.email on USENET like ten 
years ago, but other than that, also I (we, Chris and I) knows 
MessageLabs' Matt Sargeant, but other than that, I don't have many 
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