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Ziya Oz | 5 Jul 2006 10:03

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[Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

OK, may be not exciting as the the Italian goals, but a pregnant UI for info
browsing:

<http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/>

Movie:
<http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/ml2dss_movie.htm>

Interactive mockup:
<http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/ml2dss_flash2.htm>

Free OS X demo:
<http://www.liquefile.com/>

Anyone played with this yet?

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Byron | 5 Jul 2006 18:55

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

So a lot of bubbles can be packed into the UI ("information" density)  
but it appears that unless one has a great memory, the only way to  
discover useful information (Movie: Taxi Driver etc) one has to mouse  
over or click a given bubble or selection of bubbles. Maybe color  
helps alongside spatial positioning, but the video was somewhat low  
keyed in color so I didn't get that part.

Seems far more limited in it's ability do deliver useful information  
at a glance than a simple list or gallery of thumbnails could..

Byron

On Jul 5, 2006, at 1:03 AM, Ziya Oz wrote:

> OK, may be not exciting as the the Italian goals, but a pregnant UI  
> for info
> browsing:
>
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/>
>
> Movie:
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/ml2dss_movie.htm>
>
> Interactive mockup:
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/ml2dss_flash2.htm>
>
> Free OS X demo:
> <http://www.liquefile.com/>
>
> Anyone played with this yet?

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Skot Nelson | 6 Jul 2006 04:21

Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

On Jul-5-2006, at 9:55 AM, Byron wrote:

> Seems far more limited in it's ability do deliver useful  
> information at a glance than a simple list or gallery of thumbnails  
> could..

I gather the model here is a handheld with limited screen space. It  
may be that there were some limitations imposed by that. (Not  
necessarily an excuse, and I don't fundamentally disagree with the  
point.)

I always thought Hyperbolic Browsing would be the Next Big Thing. The  
liquid nature of this display would fit well (and has been  
implemented to some extent) while the hyperbolic nature would retain  
some semblance of hierarchy.

I haven't yet seen a non-hierarchichal attempt at interface design  
that's seemed to fully work. I do think that introducing some  
liquidity to the hierarchy is A Good Thing (smart folders in Apple's  
mail are an example of what I mean by this, although a fairly simple  
one.)
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Ziya Oz | 5 Jul 2006 19:34

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

Byron:

> the only way to  discover useful information (Movie: Taxi Driver etc) one has
> to mouse  over or click a given bubble or selection of bubbles.

It does have a search box, in the sliding drawer.

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prady | 5 Jul 2006 17:47

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

On 7/5/06, Ziya Oz <listera <at> earthlink.net> wrote:
> OK, may be not exciting as the the Italian goals, but a pregnant UI for info
> browsing:
>
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/>

Impressive.
Will you call it yet another "Innovation" (by Apple)?

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Ziya Oz | 5 Jul 2006 19:34

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

prady:

> Will you call it yet another "Innovation" (by Apple)?

It's the result of ongoing German research, though they showed one early
iteration at Apple's WWDC a while ago, with an Aqua UI.

It's only ironic that they have turned this research into a product
(Liquifile) to "solve" one of the worst aspects of Apple's OS X, the Finder.
Serves Apple right. 

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Davezilla | 5 Jul 2006 12:38

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

On 7/5/06, Ziya Oz <listera <at> earthlink.net> wrote:
> OK, may be not exciting as the the Italian goals, but a pregnant UI for info
> browsing:
>
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/>

Seems hard to believe it could be "faster to learn" to memorize the
graph positions of hundreds of objects, rather than simply viewing
lists of text or thumbnails. With all of these new GUIs that are being
toyed with, I notice they rarely show more than a few dozen bits of
information at once.

What happens when you need to work with thousands of items, not
uncommon with say, Photoshop or HTML files? I can see applications for
this for presentations, but for a day to day operating system, it
seems quite limiting and frustrating.

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Ziya Oz | 5 Jul 2006 19:34

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Re: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

Davezilla:
> What happens when you need to work with thousands of items, not
> uncommon with say, Photoshop or HTML files

The scaling slider on the right can compress/expand fairly large number of
items and the fisheye action (or whatever animation effect the Dock uses for
enlarging focused items is called) lets you navigate. I used it to go
through one of my iTunes libraries of about 50GB, that issue alone wasn't
the biggest problem. 

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seth | 5 Jul 2006 13:52

RE: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

Belongs to the "looks cool, don't get it" family of UI's.  Perhaps our grand
kids will say "can you believe they used to use solid browsing in the old
days?"

Seth

Davezilla wrote: 

On 7/5/06, Ziya Oz <listera <at> earthlink.net> wrote:
> OK, may be not exciting as the the Italian goals, but a pregnant UI for
info
> browsing:
>
> <http://www.liquidbrowsing.com/>

Seems hard to believe it could be "faster to learn" to memorize the
graph positions of hundreds of objects, rather than simply viewing
lists of text or thumbnails. With all of these new GUIs that are being
toyed with, I notice they rarely show more than a few dozen bits of
information at once.

What happens when you need to work with thousands of items, not
uncommon with say, Photoshop or HTML files? I can see applications for
this for presentations, but for a day to day operating system, it
seems quite limiting and frustrating.

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kate.simpson | 5 Jul 2006 15:25

RE: [Sigia-l] Liquid browsing

I didn't get it either: it could do with the website needing to be parsed over a
good-editor-stroke-marketing-copy-editor's desk to help explain what, why & how a little more
clearly? 'tho I think you're right Seth - I may well be of the solid browsing generation... or perhaps just
need it in my hands to play with for a bit before I can see the point of it?

Kate

Seth wrote:

Belongs to the "looks cool, don't get it" family of UI's.  Perhaps our grand
kids will say "can you believe they used to use solid browsing in the old
days?"

Seth

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