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Jonas M. Gastal | 14 Jun 2012 16:08

[E-devel] E2 update broken

Hello everyone,

So it seems that someone recently(over the past 7 days) updated E2, and in the 
process broke it. dpkg is not allowing any packages to be installed because it 
complains the init system has got broken scripts. This wouldn't be a big deal 
if not for the fact that the update includes doxygen-1.8.1 which is bugged and 
produces horrific documentation. I'm wondering if whoever updated it could help 
me fix the init issues, I don't want to end up overwriting some custom script 
someone might have created.

Gastal

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Bertrand Jacquin | 14 Jun 2012 22:45
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

Hi,

This is the game of an unstable install on a production system. dpkg is now OK,
but we really should think a stable system.

Not sure the system will boot next time.

Beber

D'ar yaou 14 a viz Mezheven 2012 e 16 eur 08, « Jonas M. Gastal » he deus skrivet :
> Hello everyone,
> 
> So it seems that someone recently(over the past 7 days) updated E2, and in the 
> process broke it. dpkg is not allowing any packages to be installed because it 
> complains the init system has got broken scripts. This wouldn't be a big deal 
> if not for the fact that the update includes doxygen-1.8.1 which is bugged and 
> produces horrific documentation. I'm wondering if whoever updated it could help 
> me fix the init issues, I don't want to end up overwriting some custom script 
> someone might have created.

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Cedric BAIL | 15 Jun 2012 02:34
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:45 AM, Bertrand Jacquin <beber <at> meleeweb.net> wrote:
> This is the game of an unstable install on a production system. dpkg is now OK,
> but we really should think a stable system.
>
> Not sure the system will boot next time.

Time to speed up the replacement of e2 and e1 then.
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Carsten Haitzler | 15 Jun 2012 02:44
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

On Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:45:35 +0200 Bertrand Jacquin <beber <at> meleeweb.net> said:

inc started an update and it was broken half0-way-through leaving webserver
barfing - i had to complete it and fix up some other things that broke - like
python modules.

the core problem is that we need an up to date system to build e and efl in
order to build docs...

i've been meaning to bring this up actually -beber... me and cedric were
throwing some ideas around and it may be time to replace e1/e2 machines. they
are now 6 years  old... and have been running without problems for that time...
hdd's included. <god i'm asking for trouble now!>. as part of this we need a
migration plan and of course setup of the new machines. here is an idea/plan
that came out of it:

1. if we can get 2 new ones in side-by-side with the 2 old so we have a few
weeks of move-over time, if not, then bring down 1 (e1 to start) and set up the
new e2 replacement in its stead, then switch and swap out old e2 and set up new
box then. either way we can manage it as we have 2 rack slots anyway.

2. when we are done i think it'd be nice of us to donate the old machines to
osuosl to then share out between other oss projects as they deem fit. osuosl
have been good to us and we can be good back. :)

3. now to new machines. i'm thinking this time around we might want to try
vm's. the vm space is mature now, so maybe a virtualbox "cluster" where the
host vm is really minimal and has nothing more than a few logins for admin and
ssh and everything else is stuffed into a vm. i'm a little hesitant as i just
detest layers... but hey - the question is going out to you as to what you
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David Seikel | 15 Jun 2012 02:58
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<raster <at> rasterman.com> wrote:

> 3. now to new machines. i'm thinking this time around we might want
> to try vm's. the vm space is mature now, so maybe a virtualbox
> "cluster" where the host vm is really minimal and has nothing more
> than a few logins for admin and ssh and everything else is stuffed
> into a vm. i'm a little hesitant as i just detest layers... but hey -
> the question is going out to you as to what you think. :)

I vote for vm's.

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Michael Blumenkrantz | 15 Jun 2012 08:27
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

I enjoy virtualization.

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:58 AM, David Seikel <onefang <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> <raster <at> rasterman.com> wrote:
>
> > 3. now to new machines. i'm thinking this time around we might want
> > to try vm's. the vm space is mature now, so maybe a virtualbox
> > "cluster" where the host vm is really minimal and has nothing more
> > than a few logins for admin and ssh and everything else is stuffed
> > into a vm. i'm a little hesitant as i just detest layers... but hey -
> > the question is going out to you as to what you think. :)
>
> I vote for vm's.
>
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> coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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Carsten Haitzler | 15 Jun 2012 09:24
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:27:52 +0100 Michael Blumenkrantz
<michael.blumenkrantz <at> gmail.com> said:

you also enjoy metal cilices.

> I enjoy virtualization.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:58 AM, David Seikel <onefang <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <raster <at> rasterman.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 3. now to new machines. i'm thinking this time around we might want
> > > to try vm's. the vm space is mature now, so maybe a virtualbox
> > > "cluster" where the host vm is really minimal and has nothing more
> > > than a few logins for admin and ssh and everything else is stuffed
> > > into a vm. i'm a little hesitant as i just detest layers... but hey -
> > > the question is going out to you as to what you think. :)
> >
> > I vote for vm's.
> >
> > --
> > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
> > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
> >
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Michael Blumenkrantz | 15 Jun 2012 09:36
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

and metal cliches!

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Carsten Haitzler <raster <at> rasterman.com>wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:27:52 +0100 Michael Blumenkrantz
> <michael.blumenkrantz <at> gmail.com> said:
>
> you also enjoy metal cilices.
>
> > I enjoy virtualization.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:58 AM, David Seikel <onefang <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:44:03 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > > <raster <at> rasterman.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 3. now to new machines. i'm thinking this time around we might want
> > > > to try vm's. the vm space is mature now, so maybe a virtualbox
> > > > "cluster" where the host vm is really minimal and has nothing more
> > > > than a few logins for admin and ssh and everything else is stuffed
> > > > into a vm. i'm a little hesitant as i just detest layers... but hey -
> > > > the question is going out to you as to what you think. :)
> > >
> > > I vote for vm's.
> > >
> > > --
> > > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
> > > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
> > >
> > >
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Bertrand Jacquin | 15 Jun 2012 23:19
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

Hi in there,

As e3 was initially dedicated as a build host, I started installing some
VM for that purpose that anyone can access easily. But I didn't document
all this as not really terminated. A usage is more explicit :

$ ssh ssh <at> e3 help
Usage: ssh {<opt>} <action> <at> e3.enlightenment.org <vm>

Available opt:
  -t		for ssh
  -X or -Y	for vnc/rdp

Available actions:
  monitor
  rdp
  ssh
  vnc

Available VM:
  freebsd-i386
  linux-amd64
  linux-arm
  linux-i386
  linux-mips
  linux-powerpc
  winxp
Connection to e3 closed.

So guys, you can do :
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Carsten Haitzler | 16 Jun 2012 13:17
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Re: [E-devel] E2 update broken

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 23:19:50 +0200 Bertrand Jacquin <beber <at> meleeweb.net> said:

> Hi in there,
> 
> As e3 was initially dedicated as a build host, I started installing some
> VM for that purpose that anyone can access easily. But I didn't document
> all this as not really terminated. A usage is more explicit :

e3/e4 have a big problem. disk space. :(

> $ ssh ssh <at> e3 help
> Usage: ssh {<opt>} <action> <at> e3.enlightenment.org <vm>
> 
> Available opt:
>   -t		for ssh
>   -X or -Y	for vnc/rdp
> 
> Available actions:
>   monitor
>   rdp
>   ssh
>   vnc
> 
> Available VM:
>   freebsd-i386
>   linux-amd64
>   linux-arm
>   linux-i386
>   linux-mips
>   linux-powerpc
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