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Jochen Ritzel | 30 Jan 19:20

"OTS3"

Greetings,

yet again i come in peace and with an anouncement regarding the litestep
distribution that could be ots3:

Since Andymon released his great ThemeManager (
http://www.ls-universe.info/news.php?item.455.1 ) with support for ots3, i
have all the tools required for a "normal" Litestep distribution. So i
made one :]

Features:

- a neat installer
- full ots2 compability (if not its a bug)
- no additional requirements ( "no python" )
- all that ots3 stuff (
http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3 )

Why use it?

While nothing speaks *against* using it, there are only meta benefits from
using it either.
What i mean by that is that nothing will change if you just install and
use it. How could it, since your theme will stay the same and there are no
ots3 themes so far.

There is only one reason to use it: *If* you improve it, everyone,  
including
you, can benefit from it. OTS2 wont change anymore, but OTS3 can and will
benefit from your help!

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ilmcuts | 30 Jan 21:37

Re: "OTS3"

Hey,

Where can I read up on the specs?

All the best,
ilmcuts

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fractal.design | 31 Jan 06:18

Re: "OTS3"

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:37:55 +1300, ilmcuts <ilmcuts@...> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Where can I read up on the specs?
>
> All the best,
> ilmcuts
>

Specs for THC4k's OTS3 are here:
http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3

Good work THC :)
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ilmcuts | 3 Feb 13:16

Re: "OTS3"

fractal.design schrieb:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:37:55 +1300, ilmcuts <ilmcuts@...> wrote:
> 
>> Hey,
>>
>> Where can I read up on the specs?
>>
>> All the best,
>> ilmcuts
>>
> 
> Specs for THC4k's OTS3 are here:
> http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3

This page was linked in the original mail too. I'm interested in the 
OTSv3 changes and would like to comment on them, hence my question. Is 
that page really all there is to it? I find that hard to believe. Why 
call it a "Theme Standard" then if there isn't any standard 
specification? All the page does is lists things like...

* Update the whole Distribution where possible
* Further seperate boring "data" from user settings

...which still leaves you pretty much in the dark about OTSv3. Given 
that, it's not surprising you've had "next to no feedback" - I wouldn't 
even know how to create an OTSv3 compliant theme.

Some things need clarification too, like "older versions required a 
Python runtime enviroment" - was that actually part of the standard at 
some point? Or an implementation detail of your installer?

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Jochen Ritzel | 3 Feb 19:23

Re: "OTS3"

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:16:22 +0100, ilmcuts <ilmcuts@...> wrote:

> fractal.design schrieb:
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:37:55 +1300, ilmcuts <ilmcuts@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Where can I read up on the specs?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> ilmcuts
>>>
>>  Specs for THC4k's OTS3 are here:
>> http://www.ls-themes.org/index.php?cat=article&show=ots3
>
> This page was linked in the original mail too. I'm interested in the  
> OTSv3 changes and would like to comment on them, hence my question. Is  
> that page really all there is to it? I find that hard to believe. Why  
> call it a "Theme Standard" then if there isn't any standard  
> specification? All the page does is lists things like...
>
> * Update the whole Distribution where possible
> * Further seperate boring "data" from user settings
>
> ...which still leaves you pretty much in the dark about OTSv3. Given  
> that, it's not surprising you've had "next to no feedback" - I wouldn't  
> even know how to create an OTSv3 compliant theme.
>
> Some things need clarification too, like "older versions required a  
> Python runtime enviroment" - was that actually part of the standard at

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fractal.design | 4 Feb 10:30

Re: "OTS3"

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:23:07 +1300, Jochen Ritzel <THC_rulez@...> wrote:

> Fractal had that idea about global schemes, so i put it in.

I am considering updating GS to be in just one file.

I'll link it again just incase you missed the specs for GS:
http://www.fractaldesignz.orcon.net.nz/Litestep/GS/GSDocs.htm

That doesnt explain how GS is implemented in OTS3 however.
Also, I kinda gave up on that, so it may have changed since I can remember.

I chucked all the files and loadmodules into my theme to make it OTS2.

What is wrong with OTS2 again?
We can just put all code and stuff into themes... are we making a central  
library of scripts and useful tools for everybody to use?
A litestep lua library or somthing? The LLL?

widgets has not taken off.
and gs hasn't either.

How are we going on the easy to upgrade part?
I hope the lsdev crew build a core updater or something... or maybe just a  
batch file.
We could use download.exe

Can jugg or ilmcuts or whoever at lsdev tell me the url for the "latest  
stable build".
One that wont change and still provide the latest public core package.

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