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Rosaleen Sullivan | 17 Aug 2012 14:51
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physical barrier from bugs

 

Alina and Gang-

 I suspect handling bugs ends up in the HYOH with each trip being a bit different. 

I do want to comment on a few suggestions being offered.  First is spraying DEET on items.  Please test first.  DEET destroys some plastics and maybe latex.  So, watch faces, bug nets, the stretchy parts of socks, tents, and so forth may be damaged by DEET.  My suggestion is to treat clothing and gear with permethrin when feasible and save the DEET for skin and hair unless one is sure that the DEET won’t damage the items.  Pure wool is similar to hair, so may be safe with DEET, as may be cotton.  Nylons may be a crap shoot as far as DEET damage.  Plus, the damage may not immediately show.

 

My second comment goes to hammocks.  Yes, Hennessy believes that their double-bottomed hammocks are next-to-impossible for mosquitoes to bite through, but I don’t believe that they claim their models with heavier fabrics give the same protection.  Their less-expensive and heavier models, such as the Expedition, use a more open-weave that allows more breathability but better access for mosquitos’ proboscii.  My suggestion to fight this in such hammocks is to use a pad and/or spray with permethrin.  The “ultralight” models use a th8inner fabric with a much tighter weave.  These are far more difficult for mosquitoes to bite through.  I still treat them with permethrin.  Of course, I spray or dunk most of my gear with that stuff.  The only good mosquito, tick, or slug that gets that close to me is a dead one…

 

Cheers,

 

Rosaleen

 
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gary coleman | 17 Aug 2012 17:39
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Re: physical barrier from bugs

 

I'd second the testing and have treated my head nets with permithrin as well. 


I do want to comment on a few suggestions being offered.  First is spraying DEET on items.  Please test first.  DEET destroys some plastics and maybe latex.  

 

Cheers,

 

Rosaleen

 
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Tom Pitts | 17 Aug 2012 17:52
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I have started using the "Gear Smart" repellant (from Repel, I think), with picaridin.  It seems to be as effective as moderate concentrations of deet, without the synthetic material damage.


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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:39 AM, gary coleman <gacoleman-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


I'd second the testing and have treated my head nets with permithrin as well. 


I do want to comment on a few suggestions being offered.  First is spraying DEET on items.  Please test first.  DEET destroys some plastics and maybe latex.  

 

Cheers,

 

Rosaleen

 



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William Comer | 18 Aug 2012 18:52
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Picardin has been a favorite of mine for quite a few years now. I have
had zero bad results with in and many many good ones.

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Segraves | 18 Aug 2012 19:56
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DEET damage to various plastics (was physical barrier...)

 

I was surprised recently to be unable to find on the web a systematic analysis of DEET's effects on various plastics and other synthetics.  Can anyone point me to one?

Thanks!

Best,

Bill

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I have started using the "Gear Smart" repellant (from Repel, I think), with picaridin.  It seems to be as effective as moderate concentrations of deet, without the synthetic material damage.

Tom Pitts
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:39 AM, gary coleman <gacoleman-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:


I'd second the testing and have treated my head nets with permithrin as well. 


I do want to comment on a few suggestions being offered.  First is spraying DEET on items.  Please test first.  DEET destroys some plastics and maybe latex.  

 

Cheers,

 

Rosaleen

 





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William Comer | 19 Aug 2012 15:44
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Re: DEET damage to various plastics (was physical barrier...)

 

my best list is if you really liked the piece of gear or it was
expensive DEET will eat it. gps screens, sonar screens, fishing gear,
etc.

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Segraves | 19 Aug 2012 23:31
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Re: DEET damage to various plastics (was physical barrier...)

 

:)

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> the piece of gear or it was
> expensive DEET will eat it. gps screens, sonar screens,
> fishing gear,
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greatyoga | 19 Aug 2012 21:58
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This was interesting so I investigated more thoroughly. I had never heard of Picaridin. It is also sold under the brand name "Repel". It seems like it is the active ingredient in Avons and almost as effective as DEET and about as toxic or non-toxic depending on what way you look at it. It does not smell as bad as DEET. Another effective product is Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus - the only plant based ingredient recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and lasts twice as long as typical herbal oils. Citronella is derived from it.

GB

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> I have started using the "Gear Smart" repellant (from Repel, I think), with
> picaridin. It seems to be as effective as moderate concentrations of deet,
> without the synthetic material damage.
>
> Tom Pitts
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Ken | 17 Aug 2012 17:54
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Re: physical barrier from bugs

"The only good mosquito, tick, or slug that gets that close to me is a dead 
one…"

My new definition for endangered species ... One that gets into my house or 
sleeping quarters.
This is humor in case you don't see that.

Ken

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