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Venkata sriram P | 14 Jun 2012 19:23

dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

 
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According to that verse there are two types of shruti. 
One type is the Veda (Nigama) and the other type  is the Tantra (Agama). 
 
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The above statement is from kulluka bhatta.  However, Devi Herself says in Devi Gita as:
 
dvividhA mama pUjAsyAt bAhyAbhyantarApi cha
bAhyApi dvividhA prOktA vaidika tAntrikI tathA
 
vaidikaschApi dvividhA mUrti bhEdEna bhUdhara
vaidiki vaidikaiH kAryA vEda dIkSA samanvitaiH
 
tantrOkta dIkSa vadbhistu tAntrikI saMshritA bhavEt
itthaM pUjA rahasyaM cha najnAtvA viparItakaM
 
Devi says that:
 
I am fond of 2 methods of worship.  One is external worship and other is internal. 
The external worship is again of 2 types : One is vaidika mode and other is tantrika.
 
So, the sAdhaka who is initiated in vaidika mode should only worship Me with vaidika paddhati only.  And
the sAdhaka who is initiated in tAntrika mode should only worship Me
with tAntrika paddhati only.  A vaidika initiate should never tread the tAntrika path also a tAntrika
initiate should never tread the vaidika path.
 
kvachitkadAchittaM trArdhakaTAkSENa parOditaM
dharmaM vadanti sO(a)shastunavagrAhyO(a)sti vaidikaiH

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Sunil Bhattacharjya | 15 Jun 2012 04:07

Re: dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

Thanks for your input Sriramji,
Regards,
Sunil KB

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Subject: [Advaita-l] dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

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According to that verse there are two types of shruti. 
One type is the Veda (Nigama) and the other type  is the Tantra (Agama). 

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The above statement is from kulluka bhatta.  However, Devi Herself says in Devi Gita as:

dvividhA mama pUjAsyAt bAhyAbhyantarApi cha
bAhyApi dvividhA prOktA vaidika tAntrikI tathA

vaidikaschApi dvividhA mUrti bhEdEna bhUdhara
vaidiki vaidikaiH kAryA vEda dIkSA samanvitaiH

tantrOkta dIkSa vadbhistu tAntrikI saMshritA bhavEt
itthaM pUjA rahasyaM cha najnAtvA viparItakaM

Devi says that:

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Satish Arigela | 21 Jun 2012 15:14

Re: dakSiNAmUrti stOtra from sUta saMhita

 
 
>From: Venkata sriram P venkatasriramp@...
 
Yes remember reading those(below) or similar statements from devI gIta , alomost a decade ago. You can find
my quotes from that text in Ambaa-l
 
The devI purANa and the kAlikA purANa for example, do recomend that devI should be worshipped according to
tantra by all.
 
Exact quotes? I know things revolve around them.. will try to get them over the weekend if time permits.
Meantime, I have to rely on memory of these. 
 
If cant find exact ones , will inform so.
 
Likewise those tAntrIka works which deal with devI upAsana. 
 
This is why what you quote gives only a biased and one sided picture. It is not complete.
 
>So, the sAdhaka who is initiated in vaidika mode should only worship Me with vaidika paddhati only. 
 
So tell me, I have asked you this a couple of times in the last few years and you always dodges this multiple
times: How do you worship devI according to vaidika paddhati.
 
In the paddhati that you follow for devI upAsana, what is vedic about it?
 
>Even though some of the smritis & dharma shAstrAs have the mention of tAntra, it should
>not be taken as a pramANA by the vaidikAs who consider shruti as the parama pramANa.
>So, the sAdhakAs who opt for mOkSa and whose objective is chitta shuddhi and mumukSatva, should only
consider vEda as parama pramANa.

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