era eriksson | 25 Apr 2012 11:45
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stale spam stats

http://gmane.org/handled.php seems to end in late 2007, what's up with that? 
The same problem is visible in the spam report summary graph at
http://gmane.org/spam.php

Maybe volunteers stopped handling spam in late 2007?  I wish I could say I'll be
happy to pick up where I left off (-:

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Steinar Bang | 25 Apr 2012 14:15
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Re: stale spam stats

>>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:

> Maybe volunteers stopped handling spam in late 2007?

Not all of them.

> I wish I could say I'll be happy to pick up where I left off (-:

It's pretty easy with the gnus-integrated approval.  Much quicker than
the old web interface.
Rémi Letot | 25 Apr 2012 20:26

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Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:
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>> I wish I could say I'll be happy to pick up where I left off (-:
>
> It's pretty easy with the gnus-integrated approval.  Much quicker than
> the old web interface.

Not sure I can dedicate much time to this, but I would be happy to
contribute back a bit. 

How do I start ? :-)

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era eriksson | 2 May 2012 08:46
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Rémi Letot <hobbes <at> poukram.net> writes:
> Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> writes:
> >>>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:
> >> I wish I could say I'll be happy to pick up where I left off 
> >
> > It's pretty easy with the gnus-integrated approval.  Much quicker than
> > the old web interface.
> 
> Not sure I can dedicate much time to this, but I would be happy to
> contribute back a bit. 
> 
> How do I start ? 

I'd like to rediscover where the instructions are, too.  I remember there used
to be a web interface at a semi-obvious URL for which however I needed a
bookmark which is now long gone.  But I can't find instructions on the Gmane web
pages any longer, and searching this group didn't bring me anything useful in
the time I was willing to spend.  A pointer to a pertinent article or web page
would be much appreciated.  Thanks!

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Steinar Bang | 2 May 2012 12:27
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>>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:

> I'd like to rediscover where the instructions are, too.  I remember
> there used to be a web interface at a semi-obvious URL for which
> however I needed a bookmark which is now long gone.  But I can't find
> instructions on the Gmane web pages any longer, and searching this
> group didn't bring me anything useful in the time I was willing to
> spend.  A pointer to a pertinent article or web page would be much
> appreciated.

I don't know if the web interface exists anymore.  If it does it may
have been subject to bit rot.  Only Lars can tell (I don't have any
bookmarks to it either).

Since Sat Sep 27 23:16:57 2003 (according to my home directory version
control), I have been using Gnus to approve spam.  Much faster, and as
easy as reporting gmane spam is in Gnus.

But if I remember correctly you're not a Gnus user...?
era eriksson | 3 May 2012 10:26
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Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> writes:
> >>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:
> > I'd like to rediscover where the instructions are, too.  I remember
> > there used to be a web interface at a semi-obvious URL for which
> > however I needed a bookmark which is now long gone.  But I can't find
> > instructions on the Gmane web pages any longer, and searching this
> > group didn't bring me anything useful in the time I was willing to
> > spend.  A pointer to a pertinent article or web page would be much
> > appreciated.
> 
> I don't know if the web interface exists anymore.  If it does it may
> have been subject to bit rot.  Only Lars can tell (I don't have any
> bookmarks to it either).
> 
> Since Sat Sep 27 23:16:57 2003 (according to my home directory version
> control), I have been using Gnus to approve spam.  Much faster, and as
> easy as reporting gmane spam is in Gnus.
> 
> But if I remember correctly you're not a Gnus user...?

I have not been using Gnus for a while, but if it's a prerequisite, I'm not
alien to the idea of setting it up again.  I like Gnus, I just don't have a need
for it at the mo.

For the stuff I would like to do, though, a bare NNTP or HTTP interface would be
fun to play around with, too.

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Steinar Bang | 3 May 2012 13:43
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>>>>> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi>:

> For the stuff I would like to do, though, a bare NNTP or HTTP
> interface would be fun to play around with, too.

The interface used is a combination of the two: reported spam is
presented as a newsgroup with NNTP, but the marking of spam or not-spam
is done with HTTP.

(that's all I know without studying the code used by gnus)
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 8 Jun 2012 01:52
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era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi> writes:

> http://gmane.org/handled.php seems to end in late 2007, what's up with
> that?

It looks like the script that updated the data fell out of crontab in
2007 for...  whatever reasons.

I've now put it back in, and it looks like no data was lost...

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era eriksson | 8 Jun 2012 11:52
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> era eriksson <era+gmane <at> iki.fi> writes:
> 
> > http://gmane.org/handled.php seems to end in late 2007, what's up with
> > that?
> 
> It looks like the script that updated the data fell out of crontab in
> 2007 for...  whatever reasons.

Hilarious (-:

> I've now put it back in, and it looks like no data was lost...

Thanks; yet another demonstration of a well-built system which can recover even
if problems go unnoticed for a long time.  Kudos!

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