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Uwe Stöhr | 4 Oct 15:00

chessgame example file not compilable

The example file "chessgame.lyx" is not compilable in trunk and branch. Is anybody able to compile 
this? I wasn't able to figure out why LaTeX stops by emergency as I don't understand the format of 
the .fen files. I try to contact Kayvan.

In case we are not able to make it compile, we should remove it.

regards Uwe

Vincent van Ravesteijn | 4 Oct 20:18

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 15:01 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> The example file "chessgame.lyx" is not compilable in trunk and
> branch. Is anybody able to compile
> this? I wasn't able to figure out why LaTeX stops by emergency as I
> don't understand the format of
> the .fen files. I try to contact Kayvan.

Hi Uwe, 

the problem is that in the temporary file, there is not an absolute path
and the chess-game files are not copied into the tmp directory.

Thus, lyxskak.sty cannot find the *.fen files. If you copy them into the
tmp directory, it compiles, but the output sucks.

Besides that, at my place LyX can't find chess.layout / lyxskak.sty /
lyxchess.sty, but that might be something with my installation.
> 
> In case we are not able to make it compile, we should remove it.
> 
> regards Uwe
> 
Vincent

Uwe Stöhr | 4 Oct 21:32

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Vincent van Ravesteijn schrieb:

> the problem is that in the temporary file, there is not an absolute path
> and the chess-game files are not copied into the tmp directory.

Indeed. So the bug is in our InsetExternal template "Chess". This is now
http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5320

> Besides that, at my place LyX can't find chess.layout / lyxskak.sty /
> lyxchess.sty, but that might be something with my installation.

You need to install the class file manually to your TeX system. I do this automatically in my 
installer, unfortunately this is not the case in Joost's Windows installer. (For Linux and Mac I 
don't know if this can be done automatically when installing LyX.)

thanks and regards
Uwe

Joost Verburg | 6 Oct 23:33

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> Besides that, at my place LyX can't find chess.layout / lyxskak.sty /
>> lyxchess.sty, but that might be something with my installation.
> 
> You need to install the class file manually to your TeX system. I do 
> this automatically in my installer, unfortunately this is not the case 
> in Joost's Windows installer. (For Linux and Mac I don't know if this 
> can be done automatically when installing LyX.)

So this is a class file that is specifically designed for LyX (i.e. not 
available as a normal package)? Then I'll add it to the installer.

Joost

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes | 7 Oct 07:28

Re: chessgame example file not compilable


Le 6 oct. 08 à 23:33, Joost Verburg a écrit :
> So this is a class file that is specifically designed for LyX (i.e.  
> not available as a normal package)? Then I'll add it to the installer.

This is the case for all the stuff in the lib/tex directory.

JMarc

Uwe Stöhr | 4 Oct 21:33

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Vincent van Ravesteijn schrieb:

> but the output sucks.

What sucks? It look OK for me.

regards Uwe

Vincent van Ravesteijn | 4 Oct 22:05

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

> > but the output sucks.

> What sucks? It look OK for me.
> 
See for yourself.

> regards Uwe
> 

Vincent

Uwe Stöhr | 4 Oct 22:17

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Vincent van Ravesteijn schrieb:

>>> but the output sucks.
> 
>> What sucks? It look OK for me.
>>
> See for yourself.

Attached is what I get using pdflatex. This looks fine.

regards Uwe

Attachment (chessgame.pdf): application/pdf, 79 KiB

Vincent van Ravesteijn | 4 Oct 22:28

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 22:17 +0200, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Vincent van Ravesteijn schrieb:
> 
> >>> but the output sucks.
> >
> >> What sucks? It look OK for me.
> >>
> > See for yourself.
> 
> Attached is what I get using pdflatex. This looks fine.

Ah, I hit a Debian bug:
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist-0aAXYlwwYIJuHlm7Suoebg <at> public.gmane.org/msg385311.html

Output of pdflatex is ok.

> regards Uwe
> 
> 
Vincent

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes | 6 Oct 08:49

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

> Thus, lyxskak.sty cannot find the *.fen files. If you copy them  
> into the
> tmp directory, it compiles, but the output sucks.
>
> Besides that, at my place LyX can't find chess.layout / lyxskak.sty /
> lyxchess.sty, but that might be something with my installation.

It would be nice BTW to see what it would take to use the real  
skak.sty and chess.sty instead of
our home-grown versions. At the time it was related to the needed of  
running from /tmp.

JMarc

Uwe Stöhr | 7 Oct 19:31

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

 >>> Besides that, at my place LyX can't find chess.layout / lyxskak.sty /
 >>> lyxchess.sty, but that might be something with my installation.
 >>
 >> You need to install the class file manually to your TeX system. I do this automatically in my
 >> installer, unfortunately this is not the case in Joost's Windows installer. (For Linux and Mac I 
 >> don't know if this can be done automatically when installing LyX.)
 >
 > So this is a class file that is specifically designed for LyX (i.e. not available as a normal
 > package)? Then I'll add it to the installer.

Yes, that is the case for all files in the Resources/tex folder. I told you this several times, and 
you find it therefore also on my installer webpage in the comparison between our installers. 
Unfortunately you only act when others complain about things, not when I do 

Btw. could you please use an email address where we can reach you? I tried to contact you several 
times the last month without success. You also still don't have a Bugzilla account and I'm tired of 
forwarding every bug report about the installer to you manually per mail and then getting no response.

When you work on your installer, please also implement this;
http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/26762

regards Uwe

Joost Verburg | 7 Oct 21:43

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Yes, that is the case for all files in the Resources/tex folder. I told 
> you this several times, and you find it therefore also on my installer 
> webpage in the comparison between our installers. Unfortunately you only 
> act when others complain about things, not when I do 
> 
> Btw. could you please use an email address where we can reach you? I 
> tried to contact you several times the last month without success. You 
> also still don't have a Bugzilla account and I'm tired of forwarding 
> every bug report about the installer to you manually per mail and then 
> getting no response.
> 
> When you work on your installer, please also implement this;
> http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/26762

The mail address I'm using for this list should work. What error did you 
get when trying to reach me? I always try to implement all the requested 
features, but sometimes I may not have the time to read all 
list/Bugzilla messages.

I still think it would be a lot better to have one set of installers, so 
there won't be any different features. Is for example metafile to EPS 
conversion available in your installer?

Joost

Uwe Stöhr | 8 Oct 01:00

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

 > The mail address I'm using for this list should work. What error did you get when trying to reach 
 > me?

Nothing, I just never got any reply.

 > I always try to implement all the requested features, but sometimes I may not have the time to
 > read all list/Bugzilla messages.

That's why you need a bugzilla account. All new installer bugs are then not only CCed to me, but 
also to you.

 > I still think it would be a lot better to have one set of installers, so there won't be any
 > different features. Is for example metafile to EPS conversion available in your installer?

I cannot find anything about this in trunk. You implemented a feature that I don't know about and 
that is not in SVN, so what do you expect?

I now googled our Wiki and found
http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/MetafileToEPSConverter
I'll add this to my installer, but why is its source code not in trunk?

Uwe

Joost Verburg | 8 Oct 11:50

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>  > The mail address I'm using for this list should work. What error did 
> you get when trying to reach > me?
> 
> Nothing, I just never got any reply.

Weird. Except for the messages of today and yesterday and one message 
you CCed about the dependency package, I did not receive any mails. I do 
receive your messages now, so it seems to be solved.

>  > I always try to implement all the requested features, but sometimes I 
> may not have the time to
>  > read all list/Bugzilla messages.
> 
> That's why you need a bugzilla account. All new installer bugs are then 
> not only CCed to me, but also to you.

I'll have a look at it. Do you know how to forward mails from a lyx.org 
address to another mailbox? I need to have some way to separate Bugzilla 
mail from other messages.

>  > I still think it would be a lot better to have one set of installers, 
> so there won't be any
>  > different features. Is for example metafile to EPS conversion 
> available in your installer?
> 
> I cannot find anything about this in trunk. You implemented a feature 
> that I don't know about and that is not in SVN, so what do you expect?

There have been discussions about this on the developers list and it's

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Jean-Marc Lasgouttes | 8 Oct 12:06

Re: chessgame example file not compilable

Joost Verburg <joostverburg@...> writes:
> I'll have a look at it. Do you know how to forward mails from a
> lyx.org address to another mailbox? I need to have some way to
> separate Bugzilla mail from other messages.

You need to create a file named .forward in you home account on
aussie.lyx.org. It shall contain the address to which the mail should
go.

JMarc

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