kjkk | 17 Jun 2012 14:56
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Retina display support

Does anyone know if the "retina" display of the 
new macbook pros will be supported by lyx? 

Thanks!!!

Liviu Andronic | 17 Jun 2012 15:58
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Re: Retina display support

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:56 PM, kjkk <tobia.nova <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know if the "retina" display of the
>
Unlikely, but what does this do?

Liviu

> new macbook pros will be supported by lyx?
>
> Thanks!!!
>

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kjkk | 17 Jun 2012 16:54
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Re: Retina display support

Thank you for the replay.

Apple has just released a new 15" laptop called 
"macbook pro with retina display". 
His screen has a resolution of 2880x1800, 
four times the pixels of a standard 1440x900 display. 
To take full advantage of it every software has to 
support natively that resolution. It's only a scaling issue.

If a software is not "retina" ready it is pixel-doubled 
by OS X but, obviously, it is not the best solution.

kjkk | 17 Jun 2012 16:58
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Re: Retina display support

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Cyrille Artho | 18 Jun 2012 02:48
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Re: Retina display support

It should not be too hard to adapt LyX to the higher resolution. As you 
wrote, it's only a scaling issue, so two things need changes: scaling 
parameters for fonts etc., and bitmaps.

LyX already supports scaling up the screen fonts, so adapting that to 
Retina is as simple as changing the default setting.

The icons can be scaled up as well, and be replaced with 
higher-resolution versions once they become available. Someone will have 
to adapt the code to support two icons sets.

kjkk wrote:
> Thank you for the replay.
>
> Apple has just released a new 15" laptop called
> "macbook pro with retina display".
> His screen has a resolution of 2880x1800,
> four times the pixels of a standard 1440x900 display.
> To take full advantage of it every software has to
> support natively that resolution. It's only a scaling issue.
>
> If a software is not "retina" ready it is pixel-doubled
> by OS X but, obviously, it is not the best solution.
>
>
>

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Liviu Andronic | 18 Jun 2012 07:47
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Re: Retina display support

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Cyrille Artho <c.artho <at> aist.go.jp> wrote:
> It should not be too hard to adapt LyX to the higher resolution. As you
> wrote, it's only a scaling issue, so two things need changes: scaling
> parameters for fonts etc., and bitmaps.
>
> LyX already supports scaling up the screen fonts, so adapting that to Retina
> is as simple as changing the default setting.
>
> The icons can be scaled up as well, and be replaced with higher-resolution
> versions once they become available. Someone will have to adapt the code to
> support two icons sets.
>
We already support several icon sets (see Prefs > UI > Icon Set). I
guess someone needs to come up with a high-res version, if not already
available.

Liviu

Guenter Milde | 18 Jun 2012 09:31

Re: Retina display support

On 2012-06-17, kjkk wrote:
> Thank you for the replay.

> Apple has just released a new 15" laptop called 
> "macbook pro with retina display". 
> His screen has a resolution of 2880x1800, 
> four times the pixels of a standard 1440x900 display. 
> To take full advantage of it every software has to 
> support natively that resolution. It's only a scaling issue.

So, "retina" is just an advertising buzzword for high resolution. Nothing
special to mimic the optical processing done in retina nerve cells.

> If a software is not "retina" ready it is pixel-doubled 
> by OS X but, obviously, it is not the best solution.

Scaling LyX to support 2880x1800 is not the problem. However, problems
might arise if the OS expects some special code to advertise itself as
"retina ready". I assume the right place for this kind of special code is 
the QT library. Maybe it already supports it?

Günter

Richard Heck | 18 Jun 2012 14:43
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Re: Retina display support

On 06/18/2012 03:31 AM, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2012-06-17, kjkk wrote:
>> Thank you for the replay.
>> Apple has just released a new 15" laptop called
>> "macbook pro with retina display".
>> His screen has a resolution of 2880x1800,
>> four times the pixels of a standard 1440x900 display.
>> To take full advantage of it every software has to
>> support natively that resolution. It's only a scaling issue.
> So, "retina" is just an advertising buzzword for high resolution. Nothing
> special to mimic the optical processing done in retina nerve cells.
>
>> If a software is not "retina" ready it is pixel-doubled
>> by OS X but, obviously, it is not the best solution.
> Scaling LyX to support 2880x1800 is not the problem. However, problems
> might arise if the OS expects some special code to advertise itself as
> "retina ready". I assume the right place for this kind of special code is
> the QT library. Maybe it already supports it?
As someone mentioned, hi-rez (meaning, larger) icons would be good, but 
otherwise such issues
as there are do seem like Qt issues. There's already been some discussion:
     http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.devel/4477
but there's probably more to come.

Richard


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