Re: Jussive

On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 10:56 -0400, Bill Kelly wrote:
>   
> Hi Tero:
> 
> The verbs that require a jussive subjunctive are verbs of command, 
> request, suggestion, exhortation. Examples:
> 
> I suggest
> I require
> I insist
> 
> Furthermore, the verbs must be among those that are completed with a 
> "that" clause rather than an infinitive phrase. So, for example, you 
> might think that the verbs "order" and "command" would require the 
> jussive subjunctive after them. But:
> 
> ?1. I ordered (him) that he do it.
> 2. I ordered him to do it.
> 
> Nowadays people say 2, not 1.
> 
> In contrast to the verbs just mentioned, verbs of thinking,
> believing, 
> saying, etc. nowadays take the indicative rather than the jussive 
> subjunctive in the "that" clause:
> 
> 3. I believe (that) he is lying.
> *4. I believe (that) he be lying. (* = wrong)
> 
> How would you handle the following?