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James Bowman | 4 Sep 00:30

Fw: Google Book Search

Perhaps other AUTOCATers can offer comment?  As indicated recently, I'm "over the hill" and need a
helping hand. I'll appreciate any messages sent directly to me. Jim 

--- On Wed, 9/3/08, James Bowman <semaj2rb@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I am very interested in your message to AUTOCAT just now and am hoping you can provide helpful info.  In 1953
I published privately a family genealogy: Mathews Family Record: Descendants of John and Sarah Mathews
of County Tyrone, Northern Ireland.
I was astonished some time back to discover that this book has been digitized by Google! It comes up in a
Google book search. The Wisconsin Historical Society has a copy, and the society's collection (at least
this particular book) is HOUSED in the University of Wisconsin at Madison Library's stacks. So it got
digitized, to my great surprise, since the University of Wisconsin Library is one of the participants in
Google's project..The book is c1953, but after investigating I found that I failed to renew the copyright
and it is out of copyright. Hence it should be available to read in full. Correct?  But I don't see any way
to access it. Can you help me?  TIA, Jim.
 
James R. Bowman
Library of Congress  (Ret.) 

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Tim Spalding | 4 Sep 10:39

Re: Fw: Google Book Search

Hi. I don't know any institutional details here, but my understanding
is that works like yours—books that could have been renewed prior to
1964 but weren't—are a big problem. Google will open up anything
pre-1923, because these are by definition public now. But they aren't
going through copyright records making an argument from silence about
the status of books published 1923-1964.

Tim

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:33 PM, James Bowman <semaj2rb@...> wrote:
> Perhaps other AUTOCATers can offer comment?  As indicated recently, I'm "over the hill" and need a helping
hand. I'll appreciate any messages sent directly to me. Jim
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> I am very interested in your message to AUTOCAT just now and am hoping you can provide helpful info.  In 1953 I
published privately a family genealogy: Mathews Family Record: Descendants of John and Sarah Mathews of
County Tyrone, Northern Ireland.
> I was astonished some time back to discover that this book has been digitized by Google! It comes up in a
Google book search. The Wisconsin Historical Society has a copy, and the society's collection (at least

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Schutt, Misha | 4 Sep 19:17

Re: Fw: Google Book Search

Jim Bowman wrote:
> Wisconsin Library is one of the participants in Google's project..The
book is c1953, but
> after investigating I found that I failed to renew the copyright and
it is out of copyright.
> Hence it should be available to read in full. Correct? 

I could be seriously wrong, but my understanding is that under pre-1976
copyright law, the initial period of protection was 28 years, meaning
that the copyright would have expired in 1981; meanwhile, protections of
the new law are extended to anything that was still under copyright when
the new law became effective in 1978--so your book should be protected
under the new law.

Misha Schutt
Catalog Librarian
Burbank (Calif.) Public Library
(818) 238 5570
mschutt@...

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