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Sloan, Bernie | 21 Jun 18:53

FW: Wikitorials

Looks like the LA Times wikitorial experiment was rather short-lived:

>From USA Today:

"A bold Los Angeles Times experiment in letting readers rewrite the
paper's editorials lasted all of three days. The newspaper suspended its
'Wikitorial' Web feature after some users flooded the site over the
weekend with foul language and pornographic photos."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-06-21-wikitorial_x.htm 

Bernie Sloan

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Subject: Wikitorials

Interesting use of Wiki software. The LA Times plans to experiment with
what it calls "wikitorials", which will "allow readers to participate in
online discussions with the paper, and even 're-write' Los Angeles Times
editorials".

Haven't seen much about it yet...just a mention in an article from
"Editor and Publisher" (see third and fourth paragraphs):

http://tinyurl.com/82lfm 

Bernie Sloan

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Jeremy Dunck | 21 Jun 19:05

Re: FW: Wikitorials

On 6/21/05, Sloan, Bernie <bernies@...> wrote:
> Looks like the LA Times wikitorial experiment was rather short-lived:
> 
> >From USA Today:
> 
> "A bold Los Angeles Times experiment in letting readers rewrite the
> paper's editorials lasted all of three days. The newspaper suspended its
> 'Wikitorial' Web feature after some users flooded the site over the
> weekend with foul language and pornographic photos."
> 
> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2005-06-21-wikitorial_x.htm

No doubt this will be interpreted by many as a failing in the concept
of a wiki.  Nevermind the fact that there's been quite a lot of
learning around what makes a wiki work (and a number that do work
well), and the Times experiment did just about everything wrong.
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Alec Sonsteby | 21 Jun 19:18

Re: FW: Wikitorials

>Nevermind the fact that there's been quite a lot of
>learning around what makes a wiki work (and a number that do 
work
>well), and the Times experiment did just about everything 
wrong.

Can you elaborate on both points?

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K.G. Schneider | 21 Jun 21:42

RE: FW: Wikitorials

> >Nevermind the fact that there's been quite a lot of
> >learning around what makes a wiki work (and a number that do
> work
> >well), and the Times experiment did just about everything
> wrong.
> 
> Can you elaborate on both points?

On the latter point, Jeff Jarvis of BuzzMachine is both spot-on and
LOL-funny:

http://www.buzzmachine.com/archives/2005_06_21.html#009908

"This is like hearing Kathie Lee Gifford try to rap and then, upon hearing
the results, declaring hip hop dead." 

I don't buy the Wonderful World of Everything Wikified, or even all of
Jeff's conclusions, but he did nail LAT's self-absorption and cluelessness.

Karen G. Schneider
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