Discussion of Emacs support for multi-directional text

Tim Freedom | 16 Jun 03:04

Re: Bidi - will it happen ?

--- Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir <at> technion.ac.il> wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Tim Freedom wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:39:23 +0300 (IDT),
> > Eli Zaretskii eliz <at> is.elta.co.il wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Moe Elzubeir wrote:
> > > > So I take it we are at square 0 ?
> > >
> > > Not exactly, but close.
> > >
> > > > I mean, where do I look to see exactly
> > > > what needs to be implemented and what the agreed upon
> > > > approach(es) if any.
> > >
> > > You can look in the archives of this mailing list.
> >
> > I'm at a loss here, why is it that qemacs
> >
> > http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemacs
> >
> > has been able to includebidi where-as emacs hasn't ?
> > Mind you I haven't been able to compile the package
> > (to verify for myself), but his claims still stand.
> 
> qemacs is not emacs.
> 
> qemacs is an editor with a number of similarities to emacs (mainly in the
> looks and behaviour. However, it is more of a light-weight text editor.
> Not much of a programable text-editor-and-a-kitchen-sink like emacs.

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Alex Schroeder | 16 Jun 16:32

Re: Bidi - will it happen ?

As to documentation, I gathered all I used at the time here:

http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CategoryBiDi

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Eli Zaretskii | 16 Jun 08:13

Re: Bidi - will it happen ?

On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Tim Freedom wrote:

> OK, so I'm comparing apples to organges, but the point that could be made
> is that there is someone out there that is interested in bringing-forth the
> same functionality - he should be contacted, at a minimum, to see if he has
> interest in helping out, no ?

As I wrote elsewhere, the problem is not to discuss what and how to do, 
the problem is to sit down and do it.

People who want to start coding the bidi support are most welcome.

> According to the archives, Eli has spread himself a bit too thin (his words,
> not mine).  What documentation is out there and what's the status of the
> implementation ?  What's left to be implemented in order to garner someone
> else's help in hopes of bringing forth a speedier solution until such time
> as when Eli gets freed-up ?

I believe I started to answer these questions in my other mail.  As for 
the documentation, there's nothing but the extensive comments in the code 
and UAX#9, but I believe that anyone who's familiar with what Unicode 
says about this should have no difficulty understanding the code I wrote; 
and my help is available.

> Eli, what do you envision doing to speed-up this process ?

Find more victims^H^H^H^H^H^Holunteers who would be ready to start 
coding, picking up where I left off.  For that, they will need to study 
the Emacs display code first, like I did at the time.

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